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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:22 AM
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American dynastic diplomacy (Poppy's in China right now helping dimson!)
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/northamerica/article_1062195.php/American_dynastic_diplomacy

BEIJING, China (UPI) -- Former U.S. president George H.W. Bush told an audience in Beijing Monday that when it comes to American ties with China, 'We can`t afford to get it wrong now.'

The 41st president (father of the current president George W. Bush) made the comment delivering the keynote address at the opening ceremony of 'China-U.S Relations: Trade, Diplomacy and Research' a four-day conference and technical roundtable analysts see as an effort to lay positive groundwork and atmosphere for his son`s official state visit to China on Nov. 19-21.

'There is no more important bilateral relationship than the one between the United States and China,' Bush said. Ties, he added, had 'never been better.' The ex-president, now 81 years old, noted this was his 14th trip to China since leaving office.

The Bush family has played a significant role in the development of U.S.-China diplomacy for the last three decades, going back to 1974-1975 when Bush senior headed up the liaison office serving as de facto American embassy in Beijing prior to the full normalization of relations in 1979. Both men in this American political dynasty have faced difficult challenges in dealing with China.

Diplomatic historians note the George H. W. Bush presidency (1989-1993) navigated Sino-U.S. ties through the lowest point in bilateral relations. Bush first visited China less than a month after taking office. A dinner invitation to Fang Lizhi, an astrophysicist and vocal human rights advocate, hosted by the president ended in a diplomatic incident after Chinese security authorities barred Fang from attending.

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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:24 AM
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1. Yeah. Bush Jr is the start of the TANG dynasty :)
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:25 AM
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2. Hey Poppy teach Jr how to puke on his host's leg.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:28 AM
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4. hahaha
I don't think Jr. has any problem with that!!
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:17 PM
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17. Isn't it nice when world leaders provide the material for Sat. Nite Live?
I mean, the SNL writers didn't even have to break a sweat! Poppy provided it for them.:puke: <Poppy

SNL had a wonderful routine about this. They played and re-played the "footage" of the president spewing (spoofing standard footage of "crises".) They even played the "footage" backwards.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:27 AM
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3. well Laura is with him also---bet Barbara is there also.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:28 AM
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5. Somebody must be scared ..... sending Daddy along to help.
Too late to save his Presidency but Sr. might keep Jr. from screwing up
too much this time a la S. America ..... (W... I spent so much time yesterday
working w/ the "those others" I am speaking today's meeting.)

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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:36 AM
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6. * really CAN'T be president all by himself! nt
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:23 PM
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20. Isn't it great to have three Prezes?
Dumbdumb, Poppy and ChickyCheney.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 04:58 PM
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22. This is so embarrassing! From the same country which elected FDR, who
wrestled with polio, struggling to walk even a few steps, while the American public had no idea whatsoever anything was wrong with his health for ages.

The very idea an American President needs his daddy to help him visit another country is deeply mortifying.



Just show 'em you're a dancer, Mr. President!
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:51 AM
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7. When the going get rough...
call daddy.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:37 PM
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15. That's the story of W's life.
Want to avoid draft and Vietnam? Call daddy to get you moved in front of hundreds of others on waiting list to get into champagne Air Guard unit.

Ruin a few businesses? Call daddy to bail you out and bilk the stockholders in the process.

Entirely screw up a once-great nation? Call daddy to shore things up with the countries W sold the country to.

A sad state of affairs when a bum as unqualified as Bu$h becomes President.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:06 AM
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8. Remember that this was NIXXON's Legacy
the Big CHINA visit, before he RESIGNED..

History has a strange way of repeating itself, eh?
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:14 AM
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9. We must be in for another "terrorist" attack if all the
powers that be have left the US. The Bush family in Asia, Rummy in Australia, Condi in the Middle East (I think), Cheney underground. Who is left to hold down the fort here at home? I'm scared. Guess I'll have to get my blankie and Snugglekitty and go to my secret hideaway bunker.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:20 PM
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13. It Does Make One Wonder What's Up
I rather think the Chinese are putting pressure on the Bushites--now, if they would just do us a big favor and arrest them all as war criminals....

I don't think there's enough juice left in this misadministration to inflict anything on anybody (except those already trapped in its maw).

We have to free those so entrapped, and put the cuffs on the Bafia.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:16 PM
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16. Exactly what I was thinking.
Where's Crashcart these days?
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:18 PM
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18. OMIGOSH.... they forgot to warn..... SCOOTER!!!
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:56 AM
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10. Heh heh heh....
...."dimson"....that's a little funny.:thumbsup:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:19 AM
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11. well, to be fair
HW was the Ambassador to China, and did a lot of work on Sino-US relations while in office. And he's right, this is the single most important strategic relationship in the world, there is nothing that the Colossus fears more than the next one, and nothing the next one envies more than Colossus. This is a serious potential point of conflict, they need us, we need them, but natural friction makes it difficult to get along.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:13 PM
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12. This thread needs more puke


Poor Poppy, his tum-tums can't handle Asian cuisine.

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:19 PM
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19. Wow, that pic's almost as good as the Sat. Nite Live video!
Except YOUR pic is REAL!
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:21 PM
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14. Shrubya can't even cross the street without a grownup holding his hand.
So without Turd Bloossom or Big Time, the job falls to Poppy.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:13 PM
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21. So does this mean that shrub is talking to Poppy?
According to this thread over in the Politics forum, conservative moonie Insight magazine says that shrub is only talking to his mom, his legal wife, Condi and Karen Hughes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2251773


If Insight is right, and it is a dubious source, the family dynastic dynamics in China could be interesting.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall in that one!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 05:27 PM
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23. remember Dubya's first visit to China, as a college kid ...
He whined about how there were so many bicycles in the streets, and thought the buildings were ugly, and he couldn't get a hamburger when he wanted one. This was at a time when China was just opening up to the West. (He was visiting his dad, who was posted there as ambassador ... evidently the diplomatic manners didn't rub off on Junior!)

My ex was on exchange there as an academic at around that time, and had a totally different impression of the country and his Chinese hosts. (Then again, he was a working-class kid from the Rust Belt who earned his way through grad school, and had never gone through life expecting to be waited on hand and foot.)
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