Zogby: Americans support consideration of impeachment over Iraq, 51-45 per

[sabra]

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Zogby_Americans_support_consideration_of_impeachment_1104.html

Zogby: Americans support consideration of impeachment over Iraq, 51-45 percent

A new poll by Zogby International has found that a majority of Americans support Congress considering the impeachment of President Bush if he “did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq,” RAW STORY has learned.

The poll, to be released this afternoon, finds that 51 percent of Americans want Congress to eye impeachment, while 45 percent oppose. It was commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org, a coalition of progressive groups seeking a Congressional investigation of the events leading up to war in Iraq.

Zogby's poll, which has a +/- 2.9% margin of error, interviewed 1,200 U.S. adults from Oct. 29 through Nov. 2.

Not surprisingly, Democrats supported the consideration of impeachment by a broad margin (76 percent) while Republicans opposed (66 percent). However, 29 percent of Republicans told Zogby pollsters that they supported Congress examining impeachment over Iraq.

[NewJeffCT]

1. Will this ever make the nightly TV news?

Nope, I doubt it.

[BR_Parkway]

11. If every "left" blog would pin it to the top of their pages, then Wolfie

in the Situation room would have a hard time ignoring it when he does his little "what are the blogs saying" segment (lets look at some real news instead of the corporate sponsored fluff we normally bring you)

[rodeodance]

19. nope

[Charles19]

56. I agree, a pretty simple answer to this one.... NO (n/t)

[Gronk Groks]

58. For a direct look at the Zogby Poll...

...http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Zogby_Americans_support_consideration_of_impeachment_1104.html

[aquart]

2. Damn. All MY Zogby poll asked was about West Wing.

I'd much rather have had the impeachment question.

[LetsGoMurphys]

23. Mine was all about 2006

maybe because I am from Pennsylvania? Who knows, but I wish they threw this question in my survey!

[Rainscents]

3. I was one of Zogby internation poller... This was done last week!

[rawstory]

4. Quick Correction

Text of article had 42 percent while headline had 45 percent opposing. We've corrected it.

[sabra]

8. updated

:yourock:

[LonelyLRLiberal]

5. Excellent - if Fitz is able to indict Rove, numbers will go up.

I hope Fitz has bombshell info that he is just trying to firm up. This also makes Harry Reid's demands for Phase II investigation into the misuse of intelligence all the more important. He can't let up.

[joeunderdog]

38. Yeah, 52% in favor of a 0% chance of impeachment.

Nice to dream anyway.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

40. My dream includes a Dem Congress in 2006.

Numbers may not be there, but that's the idea.

[acmavm]

6. Looking forward to martial law any day now. n/t

[barb162]

12. Why

[acmavm]

27. Sorry for not getting back before this. Why? Because the country (and the

world) has turned or is turning on these bastards. They could be in some serious trouble if they lose control of this country. They just might get what's coming to them.

And that is why I expect something to come up so that they can declare martial law.

[DoYouEverWonder]

34. They tried but they blew it

So far al Qaeda has refused to deliver and they almost got away with it during Katrina but fortunately Blanco stood her ground. They're making one last desperate attempt with this bird flu crap, but no one's buying their bs anymore.

[Dave Sund]

7. Not very encouraging

After all, the numbers are awfully polarized. 51-45. We need overwhelming public support if we're going to get him out.

[sabra]

9. 29% of repubs aint bad

[Mojambo]

51. I think 29% is pretty shockingly high, actually. n/t

[flowomo]

10. this is the same somewhat bogus poll updated....

it asks about impeachment IF Bush “did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq.” That "IF" makes this an unremarkable IMHO, except for the fact that ONLY 51 percent would consider impeachment. If they asked, would you consider impeachment IF BUSH WAS PROVEN TO HAVE MURDERED HIS BUTLER, you'd get the same result (well, maybe not just 51).

[sabra]

14. true. but with latest news, more and more people are asking the question.

just from the past week

- Libby indictment
- Closed hearing in senate (leads to Phase2 concentration)
- House putting motion for Iraq investigation
- Italy WMD doc forgery revelations

The momentum is there, IMO.

peace.

[flowomo]

15. this is not in the same league with those other items....

it's a distraction. When the poll asks: Are you READY to impeach, then bring it on. :)

[sabra]

17. What I was trying to say, is those events will lead to the BIG IF answer

that we were lied to, and that Congress was duped.

peace :-)

[jaded_at_best]

47. the number for impeachment is high

exactly because the BIG IF is not an IF anymore.

Americans finally woke up, they know Bush lied.

Impeachment won't happen, however, even if Democrats take control next year, 50% of them are either afraid or just as corrupt as Repugnants.

[Pirate Smile]

13. Today, the news stories have been about Bush's absolutely dismal poll

numbers and how he has lost credibility with the American people, etc.

When this comes out this afternoon, :woohoo:


Thank Goodness, Harry shut down the Senate and the Democrats are finally charging on the issue of BushCo's manipulation and deceit in selling the Iraq War.

[onehandle]

16. America is awakening.

It takes constant bad news for years on end for people to look up from their reality shows.

This is why Republicans want schools to fail. Keep 'em dumb.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

25. THEY ARE REALLY PISSED OFF- look at the bumber stickers in L.A.!!

Conservative looking people in expensive cars are starting to sport those stickers that we saw so often in the lead up to the invasion--
plus the newer ones directed at booshee himself--
I was wondering why all these stickers suddenly-
-I realized it just takes some people longer to catch on--

the support fo ousting our DICKtator is now overwhelming!!! nearly unanimous!!!

[JerseygirlCT]

18. The Dems need to find and reach that 29%

they're the ones not totally cowed by the party line. They need to be urged to consider the administration and its party in an objective way -- then they'll see what they've been supporting.

[rodeodance]

20. the people would-but not our repug congress.

[RedEarth]

21. Folks bring this up every time you talk someone... it will get them

thinking maybe this sorry sack of shit does need to be booted out of office. Even if bush isn't impeached or even if hearings aren't brought up, it will put a huge black eye on the entire repuke party.

[makeanoise]

22. Sign the online petition...

That is if you can stand going to his site, which I know many of you cannot!

http://www.votenader.org/get_involved/impeach.php

And if anyone has a different link for impeachment, let me know please, don't wanna make anyone mad with regards to Nader on this site...Thanks

[LynnTheDem]

24. I...I...I...

IMPEACH.
INDICT.
IMPRISON.

[leesa]

26. It's a mandate! Let freedom ring.

[twaddler01]

28. IMPEACH BUSH!

They have my vote! :D

[JaneQPublic]

29. Compare it to this 1998 poll of support for Clinton's impeachment

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/20/impea...

December 20, 1998

In the wake of the House of Representatives' approval of two articles of impeachment, Bill Clinton's approval rating has jumped 10 points to 73 percent, the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows.

That's not only an all-time high for Clinton, it also beats the highest approval rating President Ronald Reagan ever had.

At the same time, the number of Americans with an unfavorable view of the Republican Party has jumped 10 points; less than a third of the country now has a favorable view of the GOP.

...snip

The poll, released Sunday, also shows that 35 percent approve of the House's decision to impeach the president.

MORE...

[wordpix]

30. no comparison: high crime by BushCo vs Clinton blowjob

[RawMaterials]

32. sad that the 30% figured out how to

steal an election twice before the other 70% could do anything about it.

[davekriss]

49. You know what's so sad about the above?

The nation recognized the impeachment for the f*cking bullsh*t it was, supported the policies espoused by Clinton, enjoyed the greatest economic boom the U.S. has ever seen ... then succumbed to the theft of the election on December 12 2000 without hardly a whimper. And it's been all downhill from there.

We as a nation need to do better. But things appear to be so locked, from near-media monopolization, to court stacking, to the arrogance and uncaring of this administration, to an inevitable continuation of election theft. Nothing short of a full blossoming of collective consciousness leading to real revolution will dig us out of the hole our current collection of fascists have dug for us.

I am not optimistic.

[RedEarth]

31. Here are the results of the Ipsos poll from one month ago on impeachment

Non-Partisan Poll: 50 Percent of Americans Favor Bush Impeachment





By a margin of 50% to 44%, Americans say that President Bush should be impeached if he lied about the war in Iraq, according to a new poll conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs, the highly-regarded non-partisan polling company. The poll interviewed 1,001 U.S. adults on October 8-9.

(PRWEB) October 29, 2005 -- By a margin of 50% to 44%, Americans say that President Bush should be impeached if he lied about the war in Iraq, according to a new poll conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs, the highly-regarded non-partisan polling company. The poll interviewed 1,001 U.S. adults on October 8-9.

The poll found that 50% agreed with the following statement: "If President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should consider holding him accountable by impeaching him.

Forty four percent disagreed, and 6% said they didn't know or declined to answer. The poll has a +/- 3.1% margin of error.

The poll was commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org, a grassroots coalition that supports a Congressional investigation of President Bush's decision to invade Iraq in 2003. "The results of this poll are truly astonishing," said AfterDowningStreet.org co-founder Bob Fertik, "… a solid plurality of Americans want Congress to consider removing Bush from the White House."

Impeachment Supported by Majorities of Many Groups
Responses varied by political party affiliation: 72% of Democrats favored impeachment, compared to 56% of Independents and 20% of Republicans. Responses also varied by age, income and region. Majorities favored impeachment in the Northeast (53%), West (51%), and even the South (50%).

Support for Impeachment Surged Since June
The Ipsos poll shows a dramatic transformation in support for Bush's impeachment since late June. (This is only the second poll that has asked Americans about their support for impeaching Bush in 2005, despite his record-low approval ratings.) The Zogby poll conducted June 27-29 of 905 likely voters found that 42% agreed and 50% disagreed with a statement virtually identical to the one used by Ipsos.

Ipsos 10/8-9
Zogby 6/27-29
Net Change

Support Impeachment
50%
42%
+8%

Oppose Impeachment
44%
50%
+6%

Impeachment Margin
+6%
-8%
+14%

After the June poll, pollster John Zogby told the Washington Post that support for impeachment "was much higher than I expected." At the time, impeachment supporters trailed opponents by 8%. Now supporters outnumber opponents by 6%, a remarkable shift of 14%.

Support for Clinton Impeachment Was Much Lower
In August and September of 1998, 16 major polls asked about impeaching President Clinton (http://democrats.com/clinton-impeachment-polls). Only 36% supported hearings to consider impeachment, and only 26% supported actual impeachment and removal. Even so, the impeachment debate dominated the news for months, and the Republican Congress impeached Clinton despite overwhelming public opposition.

Impeachment Support is Closely Related to Belief that Bush Lied about Iraq
Both the Ipsos and Zogby polls asked about support for impeachment if Bush lied about the reasons for war, rather than asking simply about support for impeachment. Pollsters predict that asking simply about impeachment without any context would produce a large number of "I don't know" responses. However, this may understate the percentage of Americans who favor Bush's impeachment for other reasons, such as his slow response to Hurricane Katrina, his policy on torture, soaring gasoline prices, or other concerns.

Other polls show a majority of U.S. adults believe that Bush did in fact lie about the reasons for war. A June 23-26 ABC/Washington Post poll found 52% of Americans believe the Bush administration "deliberately misled the public before the war," and 57% say the Bush administration "intentionally exaggerated its evidence that pre-war Iraq possessed nuclear, chemical or biological weapons."

Passion for Impeachment is Major Unreported Story
The strong support for impeachment found in this poll is especially surprising because the views of impeachment supporters have been largely absent from mainstream broadcast and print media, and can only be found on the Internet and in street protests, including the large anti-war rally in Washington on September 24.

The lack of coverage of impeachment support is believed to be due in part to the fact no one in Congress has called for impeachment consideration, despite considerable grassroots activism by groups like Democrats.com http://democrats.com/impeach).

AfterDowningStreet.org has commissioned a second poll which is expected soon, and will continue to urge all polling organizations to include the impeachment question in their regular polls. If they do not, the organization will continue to commission regular impeachment polls.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/10/prweb303385.htm

[makeanoise]

33. Maybe there is hope people...

i think we all agree that Cheney and Bush were behind this and knew about....he deserved to be impeached the minute we invaded Iraq...

[zoeb]

35. If the impeachment cries are loud enough by mid-term

elections we could see some repukes jumping ship or is it shark? Whatever, we need these kind of topics daily so congress starts feeling the pressure!

[Senator]

36. We must finish the equation for the Euphemedia simpletons -- 1 + 1 = 2

The poll found that 53% agreed with the statement:

"If President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

AND >>

"The war has taken a toll on the administration's credibility, with 55 percent now saying the administration deliberately misled the country in making its case for war with Iraq."

SO...

The majority of the nation WANTS THIS NOW!

Hello!?! Earth to Euphemedia! Come In! Is Anybody Home?!?

--

www.january6th.org

[AndyTiedye]

37. If That Translated into 29% of the Republicans IN CONGRESS...

29 percent of Republicans told Zogby pollsters that they supported Congress examining impeachment over Iraq.

If that translated into 29% of the Republicans IN CONGRESS, the headlines would say:

BUSH IMPEACHED!

[Roland99]

39. Is the fog of apathy starting to lift?

[Hissyspit]

41. Isn't that more support for Bush admin impeachment, than during Clinton

admin? It seems the call for impeachment of Clinton was NEVER very popular according to the polls at the time. I had them linked at one time, but not sure where they are.

[Hissyspit]

42. Ah, here they are: These Bush numbers ARE worse.

They are not exactly the same question, of course. Worded differently and differently situations. Here's the link to the 1998 Polls.

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. December 19-20, 1998. N=1,285 adults nationwide.
.

"As you may know, the House of Representatives has voted to impeach Bill Clinton. Next the Senate will hold a trial to decide whether or not Clinton should be removed from office. First, do you approve or disapprove of the House vote to impeach Clinton?"
%
Approve 40
Disapprove 59
No opinion 1

[Hissyspit]

43. Similar to JaneQPublic's post #29. Different polls, though. nt

[Luna_Chick]

44. * GETS A BLOWJOB FROM A CONSENTING ADULT

Then we might have 100% in favour of impeachment.

[nevergiveup]

45. Before we start impeachment proceedings we

need to find Natalie Holloway. Let's get our priorities in order. :sarcasm:

[Aviation Pro]

46. Notice the use of the shining halo....

...above Senator Reid's head. I think the Dems have learned a thing or two from Traitor Rove.

[ktowntennesseedem]

48. I just love the double-standard exposed by this.

Per Zogby 45% still wouldn't support impeachment if * was lying about the war. I just hope that they ignored the question because their small seldom-used brains still are convinced he didn't lie. It is shocking--no, terrifying--to think that many wouldn't impeach him even if lies could be proven.

But isn't it ironic: that same 45% is doubtless the same bunch who whole-heartedly supported Clinton's impeachment. I know several who fall in that category, and every time I approach the issue, they insist they supported Clinton's impeachment not just for his sexual misconduct, but BECAUSE HE LIED ABOUT IT. Forget about the difference between lying about a blow job and lying about going to war (someone please tell me the latter is a far worse offense!!!), they insist Clinton's lies were worthy of impeachment, yet don't consider lies by THEIR pResident to be anything worth mentioning.

:banghead:

[nyhuskyfan]

50. That should be 100 percent...

I can understand the kool-aid drinkers sticking their heads in the sand and saying that Bush didn't lie and that it was all a big misunderstanding and yada yada. But if it can be proven that he did lie, how can you not support impeachment proceeedings? Is there anything worse a president can do than lie his country into war?

I really don't see how that vote can even be close.

[tabasco]

52. Impeachment and punishment of the current cabal ...

would be a great start.

But how do we end the corporate ownership of our government??

[barb162]

53. The Democrats in Congress should start using the word "impeach"

every now and then when talking to the press. Let the GOP know they could demand an inquiry on the Bushies for Iraq. Talking about it in the press, getting people used to the idea, etc. Not that the Democrats would necessarily get anywhere with it, but use it in the same way that the GOP used the constant investigations against Clinton for Whitewater, travelgate, etc

[Maggie_May]

54. Consider impeachment

I can't believe what I just read. Consider impeachment he should be thrown out of the White House on his ass. This is unbelievable we have men and women dieing and this would be a consideration. What does that say to them.

[abester]

55. What I find distressing

is that given the premise if he lied to go to war that still upwards of 40% doesn't think this is an impeachable offense!!

[LostInAnomie]

57. Pardon me being cynical, but how is this good news?

It is a simple majority on a BIG hypothetical question.

If he is proven to have lied then that means he is guilty of leading 2000 soldiers to their death. It is disgusting that only 51% would agree to impeach given those facts.

I think we are popping the champagne for no reason.

[AussieDave]

59. I really do wish people would stop wasting their energy on something

that just isn't going to happen - not in this or any other lifetime.

Even if the Dems DID manage to pick up ALL the Repuke Senate seats up for grabs in 2006, AND keep all their own (and if you believe that, I have a bridge you may be interested in buying) then the Dems STILL wouldn't have enough votes to convict.

And can ANYONE seriously nominate a current Repuke Senator who WOULD vote to impeach AND/OR convict ??

For goodness sake get a grip and move on.........

[bornagainhuman]

60. Now only if we can get the media to start reporting this ........

what will it take to wake them up goverment anchors?