EU to Probe CIA Secret Prison Reports

[Eugene]

EU to Probe CIA Secret Prison Reports


Thursday November 3, 2005 12:01 PM

AP Photo DCLJ102

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - The European Commission said Thursday it will
investigate reports that the CIA set up secret jails in eastern Europe.

European Union spokesman Friso Roscam Abbing said the EU head office
would informally question the 25 national governments over the reports.

"We have to find out what is exactly happening. We have all heard about
this then we have to see if it is confirmed." He said if such secret
prisons existed, they would violate EU human rights rules.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5389485,00.html

[Debau2005]

1. One of the disturbing parts is

Bush's response, "President Bush has demanded that U.S. agents treat prisoners 'in a way that is consistent with our values and principles.'"
WHAT? If we are treating these prisoners "consistent with our values and principles" then we are truly creating our own terror machine!

This quote was also telling.
"'Some people say that the test of your principles is what you do when no one's looking,' Hadley said."
I think we are beginning to find out what this administration does when no one is looking!


http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/02/terror.suspects/index.html

[atommom]

6. Yes, we've already seen what his values and principles look like!

:scared:

[Moderator]

2. kick

[leftchick]

3. EU to Investigate Allegations of CIA Jails

BRUSSELS, Belgium - The European Union and the continent's top human rights group said Thursday they will investigate allegations the CIA set up secret jails in eastern Europe and elsewhere to interrogate terror suspects, and the Red Cross demanded access to any prisoners.

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Human Rights Watch said it has evidence, based on flight logs, that indicate the CIA transported suspects captured in Afghanistan to Poland and Romania. But the two countries — and others in the former Soviet bloc — denied the allegations. U.S. officials have refused to confirm or deny the claims.

Such prisons, European officials say, would violate the continent's human rights principles. At work may be a complex web of global politics, in which eastern European countries face choices between the views of the European Union and their interest in close ties with the United States.

The International Committee of the Red Cross expressed strong interest in the claims, first reported Wednesday in the Washington Post, that the CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al-Qaida captives at Soviet-era compounds.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051103/ap_on_re_eu/cia_secret_prisons

[Canuckistanian]

4. Good! hey, Poland is applying for EU membership, aren't they?

They'd better cooperate with the EU, then.

[Orrin_73]

5. Too late, they are already a member of the EU

There is nothing that other EU nations can do about it. Most EU countries have RW governments who are sympatetic to *. So dont expect too much from this investigation.

[Stockholm]

11. On the contrary

It is an advantage that they are members of the EU. In becoming members they accept what within EU is called acquis communautaire. The term refers to the entire body of European laws and includes all the treaties, regulations and directives passed by the European institutions as well as the rulings of the Court of Justice.

Applicant countries must adopt, implement and enforce all the acquis before they can join.

From the treaty of Amsterdam:

"Any European state may apply form admission, provided it respects the principles of liberty, democray, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law."

Poland is already under scrutiny because of statements and known positions by their new president. The affair of US torture centers within the EU will put further pressure on Poland and ultimately the EU in adressing the issues.

[CountAllVotes]

7. EU to Investigate Allegations of CIA Jails

BRUSSELS, Belgium - The European Union and the continent's top human rights group said Thursday they will investigate allegations the CIA set up secret jails in eastern Europe and elsewhere to interrogate terror suspects, and the Red Cross demanded access to any prisoners.

Human Rights Watch said it has evidence, based on flight logs, that indicate the CIA transported suspects captured in Afghanistan to Poland and Romania. But the two countries — and others in the former Soviet bloc — denied the allegations. U.S. officials have refused to confirm or deny the claims.

Such prisons, European officials say, would violate the continent's human rights principles. At work may be a complex web of global politics, in which eastern European countries face choices between the views of the European Union and their interest in close ties with the United States.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051104/ap_on_re_eu/cia_secret_prisons;_ylt=AvwbmJyF4uKw4splO3h6Mc2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

8. Mr Uniter not a divider is turning the US into a pariah

I mean what a fuck up. He squandered the good graces the US had after 9/11. He turned a surplus into a record deficit.

He's got a reverse Midas touch. Everything he touches turns to shit.

[twaddler01]

9. YES, we need to find out what is happening...

...not sure if I ever want to know...*recommended* :kick:

[CountAllVotes]

10. Good!

This has what it has come down to. This is what must be done to stop the torturers. My god, what a sad sad day it is for our country. :(

:kick:

[Judi Lynn]

12. EU to investigate allegations of CIA jails

EU to investigate allegations of CIA jails
11/3/2005 6:12 PM
By: Constant Brand, Associated Press



U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
and his former Polish counterpart Jerzy
Szmajdzinski answer questions during a
joint press conference in April 2003.
Szmajdzinski denied any knowledge that
Poland hosted CIA-operated secret prisons.

~snip~
Notari said the Red Cross, which also monitors conditions at U.S. detention centers in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been unable to find some people who reportedly were detained. She said the Red Cross was "concerned about the fate of an unknown number of persons detained as part of what is called the 'global war on terror' and held in undisclosed places of detention."

In implicating Poland and Romania, Human Rights Watch examined flight logs of CIA aircraft from 2001 to 2004, said Mark Garlasco, a senior military analyst with the New York-based organization. He said the group matched the flight patterns with testimony from some of the hundreds of detainees in the war on terrorism who have been released by the United States.

"The indications are that prisoners in Afghanistan are being (taken) to facilities in Europe and other countries in the world," Garlasco, a former civilian intelligence officer with the Defense Intelligence Agency, told The Associated Press.

He would not say how the organization obtained the flight logs, but said two destinations of the flights stood out as likely sites of any secret CIA detention centers: Szymany Airport in Poland, which is near the headquarters of Poland's intelligence service; and Mihail Kogalniceanu military airfield in Romania.
~snip~

http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=106090