Final battle looms in strip-club war ("Christians" harassing even Repubs)

[Algorem]

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/113014649455200.xml&coll=2

Fate of Ohio adult firms at stake

Monday, October 24, 2005

Columbus- ...

The fight pits some of the Statehouse's most powerful lobbyists against some of its most aggressive, catching some senators uncomfortably in the middle...

"They are having people shadow them to business functions, or show up at events where they're with their wives and suggest that they support strippers and prostitution," said Clark, a Republican. "Someone should sue them for unlawful intimidation."...

CCV assembled a 300,000-person database when promoting last year's state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage...

"What you've got here is 76,000 people who are going to tell you what to do, when to do it, and how to do it," Clark said. "That reminds me nothing of democracy. It reminds me more of another small political group that came to power once in Germany."

[GrpCaptMandrake]

1. Mr. Clark needs to have a look

at who OWNS his party. "Pretty is as pretty does."

How's a perverted Repiglican s'posed t' get his jollies, anyway?

Duh noiv!

[PurityOfEssence]

5. Nah, Lionel, they don't own it; they just think they do.

The religious right has been mostly suckered; the reins of the Republican Party are still held by the greed-crazed powermongers of old. It's all about money and the subjugation of all but the few who have wealth. The racists and sexists and those who hate all change and social pluralism have much more power within the right than the wacky sex-hating believers in fantasy.

The right may well get its payback, though, as the fundies demand action on some of their core issues like abortion, making religion official and the like, but we shall see.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

9. A fellow "Strangelovian!"

You're correct of course. The money still rules. But the money people have been content to let the Religion Industry creeps THINK they were running the show, and where the "faith-based" community is concerned, perception truly is reality. The believe they run it, so they do. It's the tinkerbell approach. If you just believe hard enough it will be so.

"Fluoride, Mandrake. In little children's ice cream!"

[AndyTiedye]

19. The Robber Barons WANT a Theocracy To Keep Their Labor Costs Down

The religious right has been mostly suckered; the reins of the Republican Party are still held by the greed-crazed powermongers of old. It's all about money and the subjugation of all but the few who have wealth.


Unfortunately, they have discovered that theocracy is the best way to maintain their power. They learned this from the Saudis.
Theocracies are never subject to popular uprisings, no matter how repressive they become.

The right may well get its payback, though, as the fundies demand action on some of their core issues like abortion, making religion official and the like

The robber barons are OK with that, as long as it doesn't apply to them.
They would set their theocracy up along the Saudi model, where the
population lives under a strict theocracy, while the sheiks live above it.

[tanyev]

2. Well, Mr. Clark, you were very happy to bring them to the party

when their votes would ensure that Republicans would win. Be careful what you wish for.

:nopity:

[Supersedeas]

3. Comparisons to a small political group that came to power in Germany?

[Crayson]

6. Nazis

The "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" was just one of many parties after WW I and it only came to power (legally by the way) after many political steps and after rallying the poor masses by giving them work and giving them their pride back (a nation devastated after WW I was lost).

Nonetheless they started very small and in some cellar.

[BR_Parkway]

4. What you've got here is 76,000 people who are going to tell you what to do

when to do it, and how to do it," Clark said. "That reminds me nothing of democracy. It reminds me more of another small political group that came to power once in Germany."

What he meant to say was they were only supposed to tell the queers what to do, when to do and how to do it. Can't say we didn't try to warn you - when you single out one group for control, discrimination or targeting - it's simply a matter of time before those same people will try to tell you what to do.

You broke it, you bought it. Try to keep them busy enough they won't have time to worry about my bedroom.

[ninkasi]

8. Amazing, really

It's incredible that when it's something that causes them discomfort, they whine like the spoiled brats they are. Those same whiners didn't seem to mind using the fundies to get votes at the expense of people who, because they are gay or lesbian, have been treated as less than second class citizens.

People who only want to live their lives, marry the one they love, adopt children, enjoy the same benefits hetero couples enjoy, are prevented from doing so by the likes of Clark. I have absolutely no sympathy for him and his ilk. Let him suffer even a fraction of the grief I've seen friends of mine suffer, and then let him suffer some more.

[distantearlywarning]

7. You reap what you sow, Mr. Clark. n/t

[roseBudd]

10. Accusing the Xstian right beholden GOP of getting rid of porn & strip

clubs the way the GOP accuses dems of banning guns should be part of our campaign.

All those white men who vote GOP to prevent gays from marrying are not necessarily the demo that wants to see porn and tittie bars cease to exist.

Adam Carrolla as spokesperson!

[mongo]

11. Oh crap

Thanks for the heads-up on this. A few months ago, the people in the know told me that this would never get out of commitee. Oops.

Phil Buress is a blight on the state. He was the driving force behind the Ohio anti-gay marriage ballot initative. The asshole just keeps getting more and more power.

[imouttahere]

16. I was hoping you'd weigh in on this, Mongo....

BTW, how's business?

[Cathyclysmic]

12. Note to Repubs..

If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Chimpy blatantly used the radical christin vote, now christians are wanting their payback by getting laws past that they want. Isn't this how we ended up with prohibition?

[MADem]

14. Boo hoo hoo: "Someone should sue them for unlawful intimidation."...

Doncha love the way they whine when someone has a problem with the things THEY happen to like? They have no problem with "unlawful intimidation" when they are on their womb raiding ventures in front of family planning clinics, or protesting other private behaviors, like same sex marriage. Hell, they throw JUSTICE SUNDAY events to get the drooling fools all fired up! But mess with their lap dances or gambling, and they go all ballistic!

Hey, these idiots were unleashed by the GOP, fed raw meat, and now those same clowns who encouraged them are surprised that they are biting the hand that once fed them. Obviously, they aren't done feeling their oats, and have become rather wahabbi'ist in their outlook!! Ya reap whatcha sow!

[2Design]

13. aren't strip clubs mostly for repubs - they are all over the south

I see sign after sign when driving in the south - and since that is repub country - I just assumed that is where they took their righteousness - HHHhhhmmmmmmm

[bleedingheart]

15. the conservative portion of PA has tons of strip clubs

[imouttahere]

17. Strip clubs are like museums....

everything is very beautiful, but you can't touch ANYTHING.

I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine!

[MountainLaurel]

18. I once did a survey

Driving from Atlanta to Orlando, on the number of billboards advertising titty bars to those advertising some sort of religious theme (from the "you're gonna burn in hell" lovelies to those feeaturing family-friendly motels). T&A won by a 3 to 1 margin.