Miller-'Times' spat goes public in newspaper's pages

[lovuian]

Miller-'Times' spat goes public in newspaper's pages

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-10-22-millertimes_x.htm

Miller-'Times' spat goes public in newspaper's pages
WASHINGTON (AP) — In the latest fallout from the CIA leak investigation, reporter Judith Miller and The New York Times are engaging in a very public fight about her seeming lack of candor in the case.
In a memo to the staff, Executive Editor Bill Keller says Miller "seems to have misled" the newspaper's Washington bureau chief, Phil Taubman, who said Miller told him in the fall of 2003 that she was not one of the recipients of a leak about the identity of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame.

Miller says Keller's criticism is "seriously inaccurate."

"I certainly never meant to mislead Phil, nor did I mislead him," Miller was quoted as saying in a Times story Saturday.

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Ya right!!! what I see is two people trying to save their carreers!!!

[Cha]

1. miller is a lying witch

presstitute and bill keller never reigned her in. :popcorn:

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[Cha]

20. My apologies to Witches,

everywhere! judy miller is a traitor to her country..she sold us out for her own "rightful power perch" agenda..

The New York Times
October 22, 2005
Op-Ed Columnist
Woman of Mass Destruction
By MAUREEN DOWD

~snip~
"Once when I was covering the first Bush White House, I was in The Times's seat in the crowded White House press room, listening to an administration official's background briefing. Judy had moved on from her tempestuous tenure as a Washington editor to be a reporter based in New York, but she showed up at this national security affairs briefing.

At first she leaned against the wall near where I was sitting, but I noticed that she seemed agitated about something. Midway through the briefing, she came over and whispered to me, "I think I should be sitting in the Times seat."

It was such an outrageous move, I could only laugh. I got up and stood in the back of the room, while Judy claimed what she felt was her rightful power perch." ~end snip~


http://cyphering.blogspot.com/2005/10/judy-miller-show.html

[TaleWgnDg]

14. Yup! And here's more sources (hyperlinks) here at Jurist News . . .

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This site has excellent hyperlink sources including (1) the actual NYT Executive Editor Bill Keller's email to NYT employees re Judith Miller, (2) the Department of Justice, Office of Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's website hyperlink containing DoJ pertinent documents, and (3) more . . .

NYT editor (Bill Keller) says he regrets handling of CIA leak case, suggests Miller misled paper

Alexis Unkovic, Jurist News, Saturday, October 22, 2005, at 11:11 AM EDT

(JURIST News) New York Times Executive Editor Bill Keller (NYT profile) sent an e-mail (text) to staff members Friday, expressing regrets about his handling of Times reporter Judith Miller (JURIST archive) and her role in the CIA operative leak case (JURIST news archive). Keller said he missed "warning signals" about Miller's role in the case, and her "entanglement" with Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby (official profile), signals that might have lead him to seek compromises with Special Prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald (official profile; investigation website).

In the memo, Keller also criticized Miller directly, saying she "seems to have misled" the (New York) Times Washington bureau chief by not disclosing that she was one of several reporters that had been told Valerie Plame was a CIA operative. Miller, who is taking time off from the newspaper after her release from jail, disputed Keller's allegations in an interview. The New York Times has more.

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/10/nyt-editor-says-he-regrets-handling-of.php
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[acmavm]

2. Dowd gives an example of the mastery of understatement.

<snip>

Op-ed columnist Maureen Dowd weighed in with further criticism in Saturday's Times. "Sorely in need of a tight editorial leash, (Miller) was kept on no leash at all, and that has hurt this paper and its trust with readers," Dowd wrote.

If Miller returns to covering national security issues, Dowd wrote, "the institution most in danger would be the newspaper in your hands."
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[lovuian]

3. LOL!!! Its nice way of Dowd saying you guys are screwed!!!

and you took us down with you!!!

[tularetom]

4. NYT cannot afford anymore scandals

so I wouldn't give a nickel for Judy's chances of getting rehired there or for that matter at any media outlet with the exception perhaps of fuck snooze. After she gets out of the slammer of course. Especially if she ekeeps stirring the shit like she's doing.

[TahitiNut]

5. I think this indicates Miller is going down (in a way she's not used to).

It seems pretty clear that the NYTimes is distancing themselves from Miller and basing that on her deceit and duplicity. It strains credibility past the breaking point to accept her contorted excuses.

This is supposedly a professional journalist who cannot remember where she put her notes? Then, when she conveniently finds them, she's conveniently unable to recall what transpired in making them??

This is supposedly a professional journalist who doesn't seem to be able to communicate unambiguously with her bureau chief? In saying she "never meant to mislead" Taubman when asked if she was one of the recipients of a leak about the identity of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame, the she engages in some of the most far-out weasel-wording it's ever been my displeasure to read:

Miller said she "had not been at the receiving end of a concerted effort, a deliberate organized effort to put out information."

Horseshit! She fucking LIED!

There's not an ordinary salaried worker in the country who'd not be fired for that kind of ridiculous dissembling.

[lovuian]

6. Bingo Tahitinut!!! Is it just me!!! I've read four newspapers and

the news is dismal for the Republicans!!!

[TahitiNut]

7. How they react will be interesting. I put nothing past them.

Absolutely no retaliation is too low or any distraction too criminal. I'm confident everything, absolutely everything, is "on the table" at Camp David this weekend. I don't think there's a halfway honest person left on staff to C-czar Disgustsus or the Dickmeister.

[lovuian]

8. They are sure scrambling!!! Who can they TRUST???

They give us a list but after they see how Bush & cheney brought the other dedicated underlings to ruin and jail... Who could be paid enough to serve these men???

I see words like
Reuters front page story
"grasping at straws" (lawyers say)

the word Coverup

lets go to USA today

they give us a list of replacements they are already getting ready

and look at this one

"And what if the unthinkable happens and Cheney is indicted?

Cheney has said he is not interested in pursuing the Republican nomination for president in 2008. So Bush's choice to replace his running mate would tip the president's hand on his preference for 2008. Florida governor and first brother, Jeb Bush?"


Jeb BUSH!!! OMG!!! when it all comes down to it they have NO intention of giving this white house up!!! The Bush's must rule so no later lawsuits!!!

[jayctravis]

10. Huh?

This is supposedly a professional journalist who cannot remember where she put her notes? Then, when she conveniently finds them, she's conveniently unable to recall what transpired in making them??

So she's claiming she forgot the person whom she went to jail to protect? Tell me that's not what's happening, please?

[TahitiNut]

18. Indeed. She "doesn't recall" who FIRST mentioned 'Flame' to her.

From the stories and quotes I've read, she's acting like she barely recognizes her own notes let alone recalling where she was and whom she was speaking with when she scribbled them. That's just bullshit.

I spent 5-6 years as an internal auditor. Auditors take notes. They're part of what's called "working papers." Those working papers are kept on file for seven years. In the event of litigation, they're potentially evidenciary. (Just like a reporter's notes.) We know that when we take the notes. Even the sloppiest, most lackadaisical auditor would have no problem with the basics of who, what, where, when, and why.

What's particularly noxious about her charade is the fact that Plame's outing ignited a firestorm in the world of beltway 'journalism' within just a few months of Novak's column. There's no fucking way she didn't know with absolute certainty that her involvement was going to be significant, at least internal to the NYTimes.

[northzax]

11. makes you wonder if the Times

would have put up the money for her defense (I'm sure a couple million) if they'd known all this. maybe they're pissed that they went to the mat for someone who was pissing on them as well?

[Hello_Kitty]

12. Shit, I'd get fired for lying on my timecard!

Ok, granted, that's stealing too but you get the point...

[UpInArms]

16. and from the statement:

This is supposedly a professional journalist who doesn't seem to be able to communicate unambiguously with her bureau chief?

This is the person that unambiguously wrote about WMDs in Iraq.
This is the person that unambiguously wrote lies and propaganda.

[yellowcanine]

9. Well Judy should we believe you or our lying eyes?

[USA_1]

15. "Lying Eyes"

Doesn't she look like Lady Satan or Dracula in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/cu8kr

[sattahipdeep]

17. "sauve qui peut"

These right-wing critics, many intelligent and sophisticated, are
guided by the French slogan "sauve qui peut," which might roughly
be translated as "stab the wounded." If his reputation sinks, theirs
might, too. Bush's former friends treat him as not only a lame duck,
but as a walking bucket of avian flu.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/10/23/INGPIFACKQ1.DTL

Since formally taking over in Chicago just 11 days before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks,
Fitzgerald has been a busy prosecutor.

He even indicted Osama bin Laden who, of course, remains at large.

Fitzgerald is as straight as they come?

Jonathan Turley, a George Washington University law professor, criminal defense attorney
and a longtime observer of the capital's investigations, surmises that Fitzgerald has prevented
leaks in the Plame case by not using a prosecutor's tactic of disclosing information to selected
reporters as a way of pressuring witnesses or possible defendants.

Washington lawyer Victoria Toensing, a former deputy assistant attorney general in the
Reagan administration, says he has gone even further.

"Lots of witnesses want to put out their own spin'' after appearing before grand juries by
talking to the media. "But Fitzgerald has been tougher, almost scaring the witnesses'' not to
talk. "It's rare for a prosecutor. He's even done it to the press.''

Toensing also tried to shoot down some of the gossip about Fitzgerald's 22-month-old
investigation, such as the idea that after such a lengthy probe that involved an epic battle
with powerful media companies and White House figures, he has to bring charges or appear a
failure or a fool.

"That's a horrible, horrible thought. The decision to indict or not to indict should be an equal
decision," she said. "It should never be in a prosecutor's mind that I spent two years on this
case, so I'm going to indict.''

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/10/23/MNGAQFCQJ61.DTL

[gratuitous]

19. Keller should have known better in about a dozen ways

But the last time he should have known better is when Dame Judith delayed her last submission two Saturdays ago until it was too late to check and the Times had to run it without going over it. In the two weeks since then, a whole host of people have had the time and the luxury to do what the Times didn't: Check Judy's story and find out if it comported with the known facts. It doesn't.

And now Keller is caught in an unseemly public brawl with his reporter, both of them shrieking like banshees about alleged inaccuracies, corners cut and truth fudged. Keller, who knew or should have known that Judy and the truth don't walk arm-in-arm, rushed her account into print in a slavish devotion to an artificial deadline. Did he think that Judy would suddenly begin telling the truth with an indictment and some serious criminal charges hanging over her head? Or did he think that Judy would never, e-e-e-ever lie right in his face?

Either way, Keller's a chump and Judy's has written her last words for the New York Times. Whether Keller hangs onto his job is about the only question left to be resolved. If he does, then the Times' reputation is truly irretrievable.