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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:19 AM
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Man in Stolen Car Shot by Border Patrol
Man in Stolen Car Shot by Border Patrol

By Associated Press
October 22, 2005, 12:31 AM EDT

HELENA, Mont. -- Border patrol agents shot and killed a man near the Canadian border Friday after he reached for object later determined to be a stun gun, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection official said.

The two agents were on regular patrol along the Canadian border when they spotted a stolen car with Illinois license plates.

"As the border patrol agents attempted to question the individual, he abruptly reached for an object in his back pocket area that was later determined to be a stun gun," said Ted Denning, acting chief patrol agent for the Havre Sector of U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Denning said the agents fired "in an act of self defense." The identity of the victim was not released.
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http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-border-patrol-shooting,0,4288018.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

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Civilian border patrol
Updated: 10/21/2005 2:17 PM
By: News 10 Now Staff

A civilian group that made a name for itself along America's southern border will be watching for illegal immigration in the North Country this weekend. About 15 volunteers for the Arizona-based Minuteman Project will be in the area near Massena and the St. Regis Mohawk reservation tonight and Saturday evening.

The group's New York leader said they won't enter the reservation, but will call the Border Patrol if they spot illegal activity.
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http://news10now.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=51846
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:59 AM
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1. Being near our borders has become a dangerous situation....
and the Minutemen being in New York state really angers me. They are a group of vigilantes and nothing will convince me otherwise. They would be wise not to enter the St. Regis Mohawk reservation.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:33 AM
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2. Reaching suddenly for a hidden object is dangerous anywhere.
Well, when cops are concerned. The location really wouldn't have mattered in this case. Not that I'm disputing your point in general but, this particular incident isn't proof of your point, either.

No fan of the Minutemen myself.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:58 AM
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3. The ones who shot him were border patrol agents, not police....
and perhaps the police would have handled it differently. So I do relate this incident to the location. I admit reaching for something is not a smart thing to do when you are being questioned but the alleged crime was a stolen car and I didn't read that he was trying to cross the border. I believe the local police should have been called and it may have had different results.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:11 AM
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4. Interesting bit of editing you've done here, Judi Lynn.
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 07:27 AM by sadiesworld
Is there any connection between the two stories--other than in your head?

Edited to substitute editing for editorializing (ok, I'm really confused now)

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:26 PM
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5. I did not editorialize. I drew no connection.
I posted two current stories which came up at the same time concerning border patrol activities.

I also did not edit.



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big johnson Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:31 PM
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6. Twice they found my Guatemalans
and twice they said "Get going". What Homer would grant rebels their lives now? Rebels running from another Bush who parted out their children to fit more into his pits. Would we extraordinarily rendition them now, or just torture them to death here?
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