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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:44 PM
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Guardian's Rory Carroll FREE!
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 03:16 PM by EuroObserver
http://www.guardian.co.uk/rorycarroll/story/0,16647,1597145,00.html

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8.30pm
Guardian journalist freed in Iraq

Staff
Thursday October 20, 2005

Rory Carroll, the 33 year-old Guardian journalist kidnapped yesterday in Baghdad, was freed tonight.

The news of his freedom came in a telephone call from Carroll to his parents, Jo and Kate, at their home in Dublin. His father Jo said: "He told me that he had been released, that he was perfectly OK and in an Iraqi government compound having a beer.

"He just said 'I am safe and well and I have all my limbs on. I was in my cell and representatives of the Iraqi government came for me, they had a government car waiting. I have been in Baghdad all the time'."

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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:46 PM
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1. excellent news!!!!!!! eom
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:46 PM
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2. Nice!
:thumbsup:
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:47 PM
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Rory Gallagher, the dead musician, is free?
'bout time
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:49 PM
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6. Rory Gallagher, Irish blues rocker, 1948-1995
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 02:50 PM by Bush_Eats_Beef
Looks like the mods are asleep.

Time to post one of my "special" Scott McClellan threads.

:evilgrin:
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:57 PM
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8. Hell yes. I love Rory!
I didn't realize he died quite so young.
It was the a-l-c-o-h-o-l combined with
clinical depression.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:00 PM
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9. He died shortly after an unsuccessful liver transplant...
...he just went down, down, down...gradually.

Sad.

:toast:
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:29 PM
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17. They made him drink 100% alcohol
That bartender... wouldn't give him no water at all!

He called the tour as the opening act for Blue Oyster Cult a 'soul destroying experience.'
I think it may have had something to do with the
screaming diz-busters.

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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:11 PM
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11. Traveling through Oakland, Calif. in about 1979..
...my wife and I came across a biker bar that had a banner announcing rory gallagher was to play there that night. Alrady the sidewalk was filling up with roughass looking guys on harleys, the hell's angels and some affiliates....I wanted to go in and hear him, but my wife was against it. I conceded and we didn't go. the truth is, it seemed like the best decision at the time. she didn't have to talk me into crossing the bay into S.F.
always figured i'd have a chance to see him later in a safer venue. But noooooo.
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:17 PM
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13. Sorry, yeah, crossed-wires (corrected).
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 03:25 PM by EuroObserver
Good man himself the Gallagher, of course! :toast:

Slainte.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:47 PM
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3. Bet that is the best beer he ever had and the best call his parent ever
received! GREAT News!!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:48 PM
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4. In a cell in baghdad? Was he kidnapped by police?
This makes no sense.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 05:19 PM
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20. A distinct change in wording from the initial report
The Guardian story in the OP:
"He just said, 'I am safe and well and I have all my limbs on. I was in my cell and representatives of the Iraqi government came for me, they had a government car waiting. I have been in Baghdad all the time.'"


Later Guardian story:
Rory Carroll, the Guardian journalist kidnapped in Baghdad on Wednesday, was freed last night. Carroll phoned the Guardian to confirm that he had been released from an underground cell.

The end came when one of his captors received a mobile phone call and unbolted the door to the cell, telling him he was free to go. "He put me in the boot of his car and drove me alone and dropped me in the middle of Baghdad," Carroll said.

Last night he was under the protection of the Iraqi government in the heavily fortified Green Zone.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1597450,00.html
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 06:46 PM
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21. Distinct change, yes. Thanks.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 06:54 PM by EuroObserver
The original OP copied the entire Guardian text on their site I saw a couple of minutes before the time I posted: I picked it up some 15-20 minutes after they said they posted it.

I'm prepared to swear to that in any in my opinion legitimate court in the world (like here in DU, for example, where the Jury is large).

Now the story has changed.

WTF?

ed: could be just one version for the parents and another (in more detail) for the paper (&/or on first debriefing), though...
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 07:33 PM
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23. The text for your OP is still at its link
and The Guardian still links to both it and the later story I posted from it's Rory Carroll page.

In fact, it's the text at my link that has now been updated (the full version for the Friday newspaper, I suppose, now it's past midnight). The interesting new bit is:

"They were Shia," he said. "At one point I was told I would be used as a bargaining chip in exchange for (Shia cleric Moqtada) al-Sadr people taken in Basra. My fear was that I would be sold on to the Sunni or Islamist groups."
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:37 AM
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28. Ok then. Thanks for tracking this. n/t
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:01 PM
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29. Mmm. Interesting. That bit of text didn't appear printed
in the 'International Edition' of The Guardian I bought today Friday here in Barcelona.

Then again, the FT's bombshell on the Cheney cabal didn't appear in the 'European Edition' of the FT yesterday (I didn't buy the FT today) either. The Guardian did however pick it up, in a low-key way, today.

The Guardian, yesterday, had a whole page (minus the ads) on bombs in Iran (UK blamed), though...

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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:48 PM
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5. Yeah! Glad to hear this great news about Rory Carroll. nm
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:54 PM
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7. Fantastic news!
I was worried about him when I read that story. I love the Guardian.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:11 PM
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10. Um, the Iraqii government serves beer ?

that doesn't sound very Islamic.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:21 PM
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14. he was probably in the green zone, where supposedly..
...like Alice's restaurant, you can get anything you want. Hotels also cater to western interests.
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Kipling Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:17 PM
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12. Good.
Carry on the good work.
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:22 PM
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15.  This entire thing is weird! 15 minutes of fame? n't
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:28 PM
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16. A wee bit of sunshine peeking through the dark cloud of Iraq. n/t
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:43 PM
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18. Sounds like he was arrested by militia allied with the occupation
Just to intimidate him, to keep him from saying things they don't want the world to know.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 05:14 PM
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19. thank god and the kind partisans of Sadr City
who found the mofos who kidnapped him and forced them to release him!

How they can continue to be so kind to us after all we've done to them is amazing.


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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 06:50 PM
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22. Well, Rory's an Irishman
And we know where the Guardian's coming from, what it is trying to do, (although occasionally it may appear to be too close to the BLiar) right?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 07:38 PM
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24. yeah, that's right--everybody loves the Irish (me too!)
cept the Brits. I'm just saying, he was a Westerner, and it could have been so much worse.

I get physically ill when i think about everything we have done to the Iraqis. God bless them.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 07:56 PM
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25. updated story in tomorrow's Guardian
Carroll phoned the Guardian to confirm that his captors, whom he described as Shia opportunists, had released him into the hands of the Iraqi government.
The end came when one of his captors received a mobile phone call and unbolted the door to the cell, telling him he was free to go. "He put me in the boot of his car and drove me alone and dropped me in the middle of Baghdad," Carroll said.

Last night he was under the protection of the Iraqi government in the heavily fortified Green Zone. "I'm sitting having a beer and I feel absolutely fine - both physically and psychologically. I've been very well treated, apart from a bit of initial roughness when they first took me," he said. Carroll, 33, who has been in Iraq for nine months, had been in Sadr City, a Shia-dominated district of Baghdad on Wednesday, interviewing a victim of Saddam Hussein. He was snatched by gunmen as he was leaving the home of the interviewee.

"They took me in a car and after 20 minutes switched me to the boot of another one. They stripped me of all my own clothes and dressed me in old clothes."
He said he had been handcuffed and held in a room beneath a family home in Baghdad for 36 hours. "It was a darkened room, a concrete passageway beneath the ground floor. I only had a rug and pillow. They allowed me out twice for food." "They were Shia," he said. "At one point I was told I would be used as a bargaining chip in exchange for al-Sadr people taken in Basra. My fear was that I would be sold on to the Sunni or Islamist groups."

Speaking about his release last night, he said: "I heard a captor in the corridor answer his mobile. He laughed and sounded relieved and opened the bolted door and said, 'I am going to let you go'." Alan Rusbridger, the editor of the Guardian, said: "We're overjoyed that Rory has been released safe and sound. We'd like to thank all those in London, Dublin and Iraq who played a role in freeing him. Both the British and Irish governments have been extremely helpful - as have many journalistic colleagues around the world and sympathetic groups and individuals in Baghdad."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1597450,00.html
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:22 AM
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26. WP: Baghdad Kidnappers Free Reporter (UK Guardian's Rory Carroll)
Baghdad Kidnappers Free Reporter for British Paper
By John Ward Anderson
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, October 21, 2005; Page A19


BAGHDAD, Oct. 20 -- The Baghdad bureau chief of the British newspaper the Guardian was released unharmed late Thursday after being held by kidnappers for more than a day in a cramped basement in the capital, the newspaper reported on its Web site.

Rory Carroll, 33, who has covered Iraq for the paper for nine months, was dropped off in central Baghdad after unidentified intermediaries won his release, the Web report said.

"I'm absolutely fine, both physically and psychologically," the newspaper quoted Carroll as saying. "I've been well treated, apart from a bit of initial roughness when they first took me."

Carroll, an Irish citizen, was abducted on Wednesday by armed gunmen in Sadr City, a Shiite slum in northeastern Baghdad. He had gone there to interview a family about the opening of the trial of deposed president Saddam Hussein....


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/20/AR2005102001959.html
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:22 AM
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27. Great news. Thank you. nt
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