WP article "Inconvenient Facts..." examines Cheney, Gingrich

[truthisfreedom]

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But when "Meet The Press" host Tim Russert asked the vice president about the IAEA's conclusions, Cheney bulled ahead with a certitude born of -- well, of the political necessity for certitude. He disagreed with the IAEA, he said, adding, wrongly, "You'll find that the CIA, for example, and other key parts of our intelligence community disagree."

As for Saddam, he said, "We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. I think Mr. ElBaradei , frankly, is wrong. And I think if you look at the track record of the International Atomic Energy Agency this kind of issue, especially where Iraq's concerned, they have consistently underestimated or missed what it was Saddam Hussein was doing."

The point is not that an apology is in order, though it plainly is. The point is that even after the IAEA's revelation that the forged agreement had been "signed" by a Niger government official who in fact had been out of office for the better part of a decade, the vice president dismissed this information out of hand and disparaged its source. He did not, however, refute it. Refutations plunge you into the realm of facts, where this administration is exquisitely uncomfortable.

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more:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3469-2003Jul16.html?nav=hptoc_eo

[DannyRed]

1. HA HA HA HA HA

"There are no stubborn facts in the White House, only stubborn men"

HAW HAW HAW

[truthisfreedom]

3. i especially liked this one:

Refutations plunge you into the realm of facts, where this administration is exquisitely uncomfortable.

all they have is rhetoric and posturing and their color-coded fear system.

8^)

[DagmarK]

2. I remember that interview VIVIDLY........

Cheney left the impression that there was NO DOUBT in his mind that Saddam was ready to go nuclear! No ifs, ands, or butts. (well, there were TWO butts there!)

[caledesi]

4. Cheny is a f*cking liar. Plain and simple. n/t

[NickDanger]

9. and more stupid than I thought

eom

[scottxyz]

5. These 3 lines were pretty funny:

Poor Newt Gingrich. He sold his ass several years ago to the biggest copper-wire company in Atlanta (for about $50,000 and some office equipment) and then rose to national prominence for being a foul-mouthed ignoramus. He's gotten kicked so far upstairs now he's serving on the admnistration's Defense Policy Board and writing articles for Foreign Policy Review! What a country!

But the guy's still an idiot, a sitting duck for any pundit to take shots at. I was laughing when I read these quotes from the Washington Post article about Newt Gingrich, {whose} synapses must misfire at close to the speed of light...

Here's a member of the administration's Defense Policy Board who argues in print that the very purpose of intelligence is to confirm the president's vision of a proper planet.

But no one made Don Rumsfeld appoint to his policy board a guy who doesn't understand the most rudimentary premise of intelligence.

The national discourse has gotten to be a joke now. I was watching some of the talking heads on PBS News tonight and they can't even bother saying "The Administration is crazy" or "The Administration is lying" - the commentators look like they're all about to bust out laughing at all the lies and crazy statements the neocons have been making since they came into power.

But in the end, it's not a joke. It's sad. Over half of our armed forces are now committed in the wrong country and losing morale, our intelligence apparatus is also losing morale and losing patience with the foolishness of the politicians, the head of the military makes a polite sort of grimace as he corrects Rumsfeld and says that we ARE indeed in a guerilla war... It's like a bunch if dumb and dumberer kids took over the country and everyone is just looking at them sort of bemused while they keep lying and digging themselves deeper and deeper into a hole.

When Bush came into office, I knew he'd wreck the economy. The guy has wrecked every business he's ever touched. I didn't really expect him to wreck our military and intelligence operations as well.

[Nottingham]

6. Hypocrites Hypocrites!

I remember Newt and his downfall and I can't wait to see Cheney go down

Arrogance & Greed are powerful
destroyers:bounce:

[truthisfreedom]

7. it's simple... Bush suffers from delusions.

he hears voices, knows the unknowable, and doesn't need opinions from scientists (global warming), military experts (iraq and afghanistan), or from anyone but his cronies (energy meetings).

[punpirate]

8. Why does he need experts...

... when he gets his information from God? *smile*

[TahitiNut]

10. I'm forced to appreciate a newspaper ...

... that can publish something employing more than a fourth-grade vocabulary. Sadly, however, such a vocabulary absent visceral vitriol is totally lost on the typical freeper reichsmonkey.

I especially like "In the mind of Newt Gingrich, where synapses must misfire at close to the speed of light, the descriptive and the normative are as one." (Sieg Heil!)

A close second would be " My friends on the left fear the administration's budding imperialism. I'm more concerned by its raging anti-empiricism." (Gott Mit Uns!)

I find myself largely in agreement.