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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:18 PM
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Bush approval hits 39%, lowest of his presidency (USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-10-17-bushapproval_x.htm

Bush approval hits 39%, lowest of his presidency

WASHINGTON — Beset by political and economic troubles at home and a difficult war in Iraq, President Bush's job approval rating has slipped to 39%, the lowest measure of his presidency, according to a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll.

Bush, whose approval rating hit 55% shortly after he was re-elected last November, has been below 50% approval since May. But this marks the first time he has fallen below 40%, a level that until now had been his floor.

Bush hit 40%, his previous low, twice: in mid-August — when Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq, began an anti-war vigil on the road to the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch — and again in mid-September, when he was under fire for a slow federal response to Hurricane Katrina.


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gp Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:20 PM
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1. lower!! lower!! lower!! nt
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:21 PM
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2. I'm falling and I can't get back up
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:23 PM
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3. The 2006 Hurricane Season Hasn't Started Yet. n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:24 PM
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5. Well if Wilma aka W
creates more disquiet re the Gulf, those numbers will continue to fall.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:23 PM
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4. I don't think this asshole's rating was 55% after the (s)election.
.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:25 PM
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6. Wow, even with the new terror alerts and saber rattling
What the hell are neo-cons gonna do now?

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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:29 PM
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7. Gallup?
whoa - then the real number is probably more like 34% given their skewed sampling.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:36 PM
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8. This has to be last week's headline.
Wasn't the big news, last week, the dive into the high thirties?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:42 PM
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10. Gallup is the last of the major polling outfits that hadn't hit
the 30's...
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:44 PM
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Thanx
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:39 PM
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9. What is sad is that the repukes are still at 84 & 85%. How in the
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 03:39 PM by Jon8503
hell can you support this guy with everything that is going on.

1) A failed Iraq policy.

2) A failed economy.

3) Corruption in the administration.

4) A failure or policy to protect the citizens of this country in a disaster or attack.

5) Gas prices through the roof & soon heating through the roof.

6) In other words a total collapse or failure of this administration.

7) The 84 & 85% support among his base shows the difference between democrats and republicans.. We would have fired him or taken away our support long ago. We at least admit what is right or wrong. His base doesn't give a dam until it affects them.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:44 PM
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11. They're staying the course (over the cliff).
They're firm and resolute (in their ignorance).

It's astonishing, isn't it? Independents, 32%, Democrats, 8%, and Republicans are so far in the other direction it's unbelievable. Shows they're just not trainable.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:46 PM
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12. They believe in the not real universe and try to live there.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:52 PM
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14. I like that "not trainable" N/T.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:51 PM
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13. It is remarkable. Tom Tomorrow nailed it with "Deep Undercover":
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:10 PM
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27. The thing I wonder
is what that 84% represents? Has the number of people identifying as repuke gone down or has the number remained steady? Maybe a portion of the softer or more moderate are now identifying as independent. If the total number has shrunk because repuke identification is dropping away, that 84% might represent a smaller and less significant portion of the voting public. Anybody know if change in party affiliation or identification is tracked anywhere?

Just wondering.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 04:57 PM
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15. Hasn't Gallups polls been bouncing up and down a lot recently?
It seems like it's been fluctuating between 40% and 45%.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:22 PM
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23. they tried different methods of culling the data - trying to show a jump.
Poor Pew, rumors are they are pulling hair out trying to find and define a statistical "base level" from which they can show a gain for Bush - only to find it AIN'T there.
the real numbers are lower, at least in raw data, around 33-36%. but they try to "correct" data to conform with their conceptions of the voting public (more GOP than self-reported Dems). unfortunately, all the stats are showing the same damned thing - he is the most unpopular president ever.

At some point, the stats guys will throw up their hands and say, "you know what? No segment likes him anymore. And even fewer trust him than ever before."

What is fascinating is the reaction of the GOP in national office. After holding on to all things bush like their lives depended on it, they see these figures, and even in the most dense minds of the most dense freepers, they realize that they have lost it. THEY are now the targets, especially if they continue to support the pres. And they do not like it.
at the moment, they are like lost sheep, scared of their own shadows, especially the congresscritters, but even a few of the senators. if another leader appeared, a strong personality, someone who "helps" bush get out of certain trouble, and is conservative enough to pass muster with the freeper fundies, I suspect that all of them would flock like starving birds to a feeder. McCain? He is trying, but he won't make it. We need to watch out for someone else who will try.

Gallups jumps are - well, there is a rather complex statistical program that deals with the numbers, but it still depends on the weighing of certain factors. and the weights are put in by those who know what the weights can do.

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:22 PM
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24. they tried different methods of culling the data - trying to show a jump.
Poor Pew, rumors are they are pulling hair out trying to find and define a statistical "base level" from which they can show a gain for Bush - only to find it AIN'T there.
the real numbers are lower, at least in raw data, around 33-36%. but they try to "correct" data to conform with their conceptions of the voting public (more GOP than self-reported Dems). unfortunately, all the stats are showing the same damned thing - he is the most unpopular president ever.

At some point, the stats guys will throw up their hands and say, "you know what? No segment likes him anymore. And even fewer trust him than ever before."

What is fascinating is the reaction of the GOP in national office. After holding on to all things bush like their lives depended on it, they see these figures, and even in the most dense minds of the most dense freepers, they realize that they have lost it. THEY are now the targets, especially if they continue to support the pres. And they do not like it.
at the moment, they are like lost sheep, scared of their own shadows, especially the congresscritters, but even a few of the senators. if another leader appeared, a strong personality, someone who "helps" bush get out of certain trouble, and is conservative enough to pass muster with the freeper fundies, I suspect that all of them would flock like starving birds to a feeder. McCain? He is trying, but he won't make it. We need to watch out for someone else who will try.

Gallups jumps are - well, there is a rather complex statistical program that deals with the numbers, but it still depends on the weighing of certain factors. and the weights are put in by those who know what the weights can do.

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billr Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 05:22 PM
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16. Even Fox has him at 40

Must have required lots of recounts.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:16 PM
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22. welcome to DU !
:hi:
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 05:25 PM
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17. It's an insurmountable downward trend (pollkatz graph):
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billr Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 05:31 PM
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18. column poking fun at Fox's 40

FOLD HERE
Lifting White House spirits

TO: The staff

FROM: Karl Rove, White House deputy chief of staff and senior adviser to the president

RE: Office morale

First, a few loose ends. As you may know, a recent poll by FOX News indicates that the president's approval rating has dropped to a new low of 40 percent. Please rest assured that we are taking immediate steps to shore up support.

This morning, for example, I hand-delivered to FOX News Chairman and longtime Republican adviser Roger Ailes a list of suggested telephone numbers for the network to contact for its next poll.

If, in the days ahead, you should receive a call from a pollster at the network, PLEASE TAKE THE PRECAUTION OF DISGUISING YOUR VOICE before heaping praise on the president.

While we're on the subject of heaping praise, you've undoubtedly noticed that the liberal news media continues to ignore our many successes in Iraq and the war on terrorism in favor of reporting on inconsequential matters, such as a batch of old cards and letters sent to the president by Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051017/COLUMNIST33/510170483
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:00 PM
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20. Welcome to DU, billr!
:hi:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:04 PM
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21. Down, Down, Down!
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 05:59 PM
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19. It's Presidential Limbo Time!
How LOOOOOOWWWW can he GOOOOO?

I'm thinking negative numbers here...
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abb9 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:36 PM
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25. Time for another IMMINENT terror threat alert
With Bushcos rating hitting the skids,its about time for another,or a few more imminent terra alert.
Maybe they could ratchet up the news about Saddams trial by the Kangaroo court,to divert attention from Buscho's woes
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 08:38 PM
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26. Didn't they just try that?
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 08:39 PM by Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
People were doubting the sincerity of the recent New York Subway threat.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:55 AM
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28. they'll be limiting terralerts to weekends because they're scared of
disrupting the economy any further during the workweek. they'll schedule terror to coincide with our "free time" to keep us anxious during our down hours. expect the next fake terralert this friday afternoon... that's the most likely time.
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ignatzmouse Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:27 AM
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29. Drop entirely focused in suburbs (10%) spells trouble for the majority
More at: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/17/poll.bush/index.html

"In the latest poll, Bush's support appeared to have eroded even among suburban residents, who had been among his strongest backers, falling from 51 percent in last month's poll to 41 percent in the latest survey.

Among urban residents, his approval rating did not budge from 34 percent, and among rural residents it was almost the same, 44 percent versus 45 percent last month."

A 10% drop in the suburbs spells doom for Republicans in the next election cycle. It suggests that the orgy of glutting their rich backers at the expense of the middle class is being felt like a big wake-up call. The gas prices have something to do with it, but that just magnifies all the other fail-safes that have been pulled out from under the middle class by this administration and their puppets in congress. People feel vulnerable to losing everything and permanently getting behind.

The war and the ethics problems serve to reinforce the decisive change in approval, but the decline is first and foremost a middle class response to the economy and the arrogant pilfering of their wages and bank accounts by the insular elite network. It is a blaring signal that the Republicans up for re-election are going to lose in record numbers.

The non-change in Republican approval also indicates that Bush's approval ratings will likely plummet a good deal further. The Republican approval has not shifted with the middle class crush, the war, gas prices, etc., but as the indictments on the Plame case come out, and this administration becomes ever more outed as true traitors and tricksters watch for their numbers to sink rapidly. Deniability loses its credibility when culpability sticks.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:37 AM
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30. kick
:kick:
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:37 AM
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31. Bush's Job Rating Continues to Drop

...President Bush's job approval rating continues to plummet, with 39 percent of Americans surveyed in the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll supporting his performance, compared to 58 percent expressing disapproval.

The approval rating was the lowest the poll has recorded during Bush's presidency, down from 45 percent in a survey taken September 26-28, and the disapproval rating was up from 50 percent.

The latest poll results, released Monday, were based on interviews with 1,012 adult Americans conducted by telephone October 13-16. In both surveys, the questions on approval ratings had a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Bush has seen his approval rating steadily decline since he was sworn in for a second term in January, when 57 percent approved of his handling of the job and 40 percent disapproved...(more)


http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/17/poll.bush/index.html

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LoKnLoD Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:37 AM
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32. I want to see 20's
after Fitzmas :toast:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:37 AM
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33. There seems to be no stopping this train...
The gravity of reality.

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity:
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:45 PM
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34. Guess hammering nails on the Today show with Pickles didn't help (nt)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:00 PM
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35. It makes me wonder, what the hell is wrong
with 38 of that 39%.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:59 PM
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36. Express elevator to hell...
...GOING DOWN!!!
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