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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:47 PM Original message |
'Hidden Scandal' in Miller Story, Charges Former CBS Newsman |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. worse than that... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I think this is a smoking gun, but no one is quite noticing it yet nt |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. "However Miller got the clearance, it was illegal. " |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I'm hoping that Fitz |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Didn't Armstrong Williams get a gov contract? n/t |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. Hush little baby don't say a word... |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. Rumsfeld |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. I believe Kelly's final email was to her as well. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:36 PM Original message |
"The elephant is in the noose!" n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. The mouse is excessively jumpy--dupe, sorry! |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 10:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. Judith Miller in Iraq. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 04:30 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. She had to be operating under orders--HAD TO |
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MellowOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. That was my first thought |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. She's come down with Reaganitis (Can't recall who gave her Plame's name) |
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DrZeeLit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I'm with Arianna -- if she "can't remember" then it obviously was |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Who else has visited her in jail? Bolton. |
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kostya (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
78. Bolton was implicated months ago. (Re-)read this: |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. If she can't remember and that really is what she told the GJ |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Someone that damn forgetful should not have been issued a |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. it was PETER JENNINGS!!! PETER JENNINGS LEAKED IT---NOW GO HOME |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 04:32 AM Response to Reply #48 |
66. Louis Nye, it was Louis NYE!!!! |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. .... compounded by the GHWBUSHITIS. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Ah yes, the OUT OF THE LOOP virus! Most debilitating!! nt |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. This isn't new. Read about her security clearance months ago. |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. From the link in the OP: |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Clearance is one thing, the question is, WAS SHE ON THE PAYROLL? |
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dalloway (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. EXCELLENT Catch here. Great analysis. |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Yes, what if she was on the payroll? Given their track record she |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
89. "blanket clearance" |
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oregonindy (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think this needs to be amplified and broadcasted out big time! |
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joanski0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. Was Judy embedded with the WMD search team |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. ding ding ding |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. I wondered that same thing. Is it normal to have a security clearance? |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I too think she was there to report on "found" WMDs planted by the DoD: |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. I have read PP's posts. It is a very workable theory. And running |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 01:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
62. yes, that's possible. It's also possible that she told the "dark actors" |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
88. The known facts seem to point more to his promise NOT to tell. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. another absorbing, thoughtful, important post, Peace Patriot - I'm |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 03:01 AM Response to Reply #88 |
94. Still, what were they planning on doing about testing the "WMD"? |
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EuroObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
81. Here is a sample of Dr. David Kelly's last emails (note the plural). |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. Thank you for this; these comprise a piece I haven't had before. I've |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. Who paid for the clearance? |
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readmylips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
53. Actually, 10K for Secret, 20K for Top Secret..... |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. So if the Pentagon paid $10k for her clearance... |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. " my instincts would have sent me running" |
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jrthin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. Just ONE question... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Maybe she will end up as an UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATOR |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. She can still be indicted, can't she? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yeah, sure, but she will sing louder and longer if there is a pony |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. We'll see if she ever fully cooperates. |
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McKenzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. that might just be illegal |
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pdxblue (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. Operation Mockingbird? |
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dbeach (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. whada U say?? |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. here's a story from the Washington Post:Embedded Reporter's role |
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slaveplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Has anyone broached the subject |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
83. THANKS FOR THIS ARTICLE - I never knew about it! She had power too. |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. MADem, I think she's become persona non grata at NYT |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. She is on a leave of absence |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. She is history at NYT |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
25. More Fuel for My "Judy's a Spook" Theory |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. I don't want to register at the NYT. (Damned if I want to give them even |
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EuroObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
82. That's all she wrote |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
27. Phony umbrage over "government licensing of journalists" |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 09:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. Well said. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
35. ***Another thread on the same OP article (General Discussion Forum):*** |
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RDANGELO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
37. Why I am troubled about this |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I suspect that Fitz has been wondering |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 07:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
70. It is not unusual... |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
46. Well, I still think the treason involved in outing an undercover agent and |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
49. I would think that there should be people |
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Copperhead 2000 (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
51. What Did She Do While "In Prison"? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. She said a lot more than that. |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. She herself is an agent |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:40 AM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Remember that her husband purportedly took a cruise while she was jailed. |
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Copperhead 2000 (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 02:05 AM Response to Reply #63 |
96. Bloody Cruise |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
58. what a great point! This is true! She did more than cross the line over |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
59. Judith Miller: The 'Classified' Angle |
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chat_noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 06:24 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. William E. Jackson, Jr.'s October 14 opinion piece |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
61. She got DOD security clearance!!! Doesn't that mean she is |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:46 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. No, it doesn't mean that... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 04:40 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. It does not have to mean that, but most reporters do not have a |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
69. Yep, my |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 08:08 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Not unheard of. |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 08:41 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Clancy novel or not |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:33 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. You are talking different types of clearances... |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:43 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Right, I am aware, but at each stage you are |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:49 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Sort of like the difference between Jeff Gannon and... |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. I don't follow |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Judith Miller has been in the NY Times for 30 years she |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
76. Anthrax was DOD too!!! Judith Miller was a government agent |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. You know, Matthews could very well be an asset, and here is why |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. I agree Chris Mathews has been exposed!!! He's definitely |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
79. FOIA request? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. I would imagine a slew of reporters have already done just that |
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johnfunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
87. Kneepads Judy was embedded... with WHIG and PNAC |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. With which general in Iraq |
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SkyIsGrey (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
95. From the article. |
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