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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 07:52 AM
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Democrats make deal with Schwarzenegger to reject most of Davis' Appointme
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/10/25/state0807EDT0023.DTL

Arnold Schwarzenegger will reject most of Gov. Gray Davis' last-minute appointments but allow 17 of them to stand when he takes office next month, the Los Angeles Times reported Saturday.

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In the last days of his administration, Davis named 12 members of his staff to jobs with salaries that range from $86,196 a year to $117,396. He also named 77 other people to unpaid positions on various state boards and commissions.

The fate of those appointments was thrown into doubt Friday when state Senate President Pro Tem John Burton said he would not call a special legislative session to confirm them before Davis, a fellow Democrat, leaves office. If they are still unconfirmed by the Senate when Schwarzenegger takes over, he could simply withdraw them.

Instead, the Times reported, Burton hammered out a deal in which the Republican Schwarzenegger will withdraw the names of 77 appointees but will let 17 others stand. The 17 will be a mixture of both paid and unpaid appointments.

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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 07:57 AM
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1. already the democrats are playing footsie with Arnold
Can't they just stand for something for a change? In my opinion they should have apporoved all of Davis' appointees and said to Arnold, "Too bad". Hard line I know, but Arnold that's politics. It seems to me they are going to go out of their way to "accomodate" just like democrats always do.

They should remember that more than 53% of the people in the state voted against Arnold.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 08:36 AM
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5. Do you actually believe Ah-no is the one negociating anything with
reguards to the CA political system? Isn't that like saying Bush is in control of the WH?
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 10:41 AM
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15. Arnold is Pete Wilson's trained Puppy
Arnold won't pee unless Massa Pete tells him to.

And these Pink Tutu Democrats (Lockeyer, Shelley, Weston, Burton, Willie Brown) ALL lay down and die for him.

Who will stand up to the Nazis? What brave Patriot will get recalls going against these traitors?
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 01:27 PM
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17. When are the dumb Dems going to stop helping the enemy!
The republican pigs NEVER negotiate; they steal or harrass until they get want they want. We must treat them the way they treat us. Californians should write to those congress people and tell them to stop wetting their pants at the sight of that big ugly nazi.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 10:49 PM
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26. Democrat ('de-m&-"krat): see synonym at "collaborator"
After they surrendered the 77 names, you've just got to admire how they wouldn't be pushed around on those other 17.

That'll show Arnold!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 09:43 AM
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34. Perhaps these are people that Davis wanted but the legislators did not.
It may not be a correct assumption that everything that Davis wants is also what the Democrats in the legislature wants.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 09:21 AM
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33. The Democrats have to play footsie with Arnold
Whether anyone likes it or not -- and believe me, I don't -- Arnold recieved the support of more voters (48%) than rejected the Recall(45%). Any serious talk of a revenge recall was dropped the day following the vote.

The Recall may not have been a grassroots movelment, but the voters went along with it. In about two weeks, Schwarzenegger will be the governor and we'll have to deal with him.

As things are on DU, I will issue the disclaimer that accepting the fact he is governor in no way means I have any confidence in this gorilla to solve problems or that he isn't the stooge of the energy pirates. This deal concerns appointments, many of them minor. The Democrats, we would hope, are devising a strategy to prevent any sweetheart settlement with the pirates or reintroduction of energy deregulation.

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 08:08 AM
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2. Doesn't crap like this make you embarrassed to be a Dem?
I swear, if ONE Dem ANYWHERE had a spine............
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 08:39 AM
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6. I don't think we can make a judgement about this
hard to paint with the giant roller again unless
we know what's going on in the backroom.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:13 AM
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8. should there be a 'backroom'?
:shrug:
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:22 AM
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28. Born and living my whole life in California my call would be.....
staying away with who is and who is not a Dem here and putting a finger in the wind. Things change very fast, especially in CALIFORNIA.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:40 AM
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30. BS!
if it was a rethug recalled, they wouldn't hesitate 4 a second 2 pull this stunt...& there would B NO negotiating! I'm lookin' 4 a 3rd party ready 2 take on these spineless, cowering, kiss-ass dems
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:48 AM
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11. Kucinich does. So did Cynthia McKinney.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:12 AM
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16. If 2 people that spoke the truth make you embarrassed...
I'm sure there's plenty of room in G.O.P. for ya.... or at perhaps in the Republican wing of Democratic Party. Zel Miller is there waiting for ya.

Dennis Kucinich and Cynthia McKinney are two of the few Democratic leaders with the cojones to stand up and speak the truth on Bush & Co.

Do some homework on their opposition to the Iraq invasion *before* the war.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 04:46 PM
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19. Not embarassed -- just pointing out that THEY do have spines
I guess my comment wasn't clear -- I admire them both for their courage.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 08:48 AM
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32. And apperently not many in the party admire them.
McKinney lost the primary for renomination for her House seat and Kucinich is dead last in virtually every poll. If Democrats admire these people, they have a funny way of showing it.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 08:24 AM
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3. Legislation is more important
Burton is no Tom Daschle. Davis signed over 200 bills in his last days in office.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 08:29 AM
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4. Apparently many Democrats still believe in "accomodation."
They believe in "moving on" and aspire to be nothing but deal brokers, brokering deals with Republicans which, in the end, hand the Republicans what they wanted anyway.

They believe Republicans are eager to work with "constructive" Democrats in a "bipartisan" framework.

They don't dare acknowledge to themselves the simple fact that there's been a coup in America, and it's still under way.

They think it's politics as usual. But it's a new, bloody day in America.

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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:09 AM
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7. To Repubs compromise means doing it their way
They believe Republicans are eager to work with "constructive" Democrats in a "bipartisan" framework.

Grover Nordquist will tell you that crushing things to death is the only way they know. We must outsmart them and put the crush on them first. The Bush Coup put these trolls in control.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:49 AM
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12. Very true !
When will they ever wake up? NO MORE BACK ROOM DEALS..NO MORE SECRETS! NO MORE!!!

Brokering with the repukes gets us to where we are today!! Someone has counted where the Dems use to be on the line from left to centrist to right and how far we've moved to the right due to this 'brokering'.

IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE IN THIS GOVERNMENT AND NOT JUST HOW IS HOLDING THAT POSITION!!

KucinichTsunami2Win!
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:16 AM
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9. This looks pretty bad.
It tends to undercut the various dire warnings during the campaign. Why in the world is there such readiness to work with this Republican puppet who got there through the misuse of recall?

How many seconds before someone on DU blames it all on the Greens?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:55 AM
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13. 3 or 4 at least!
I tend to wonder here, though, whwether or not we can simply expect the Dems to do absolutely nothing for AHH-nold. All Cali. news media are watching Condom-face, so the antics of the Dems will be center stage for the inevitable discusiion of why the Democrats are obstructing poor AHH-nie. They have to do business with him.

I wouldn't worry too much. Burton will put a whammy on Schwarzenegger when he can.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 10:18 AM
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14. If Nader hadn't run, Gore would be president..
and Ken Lay would be headed to prison; Grey Davis could have helped in the prosecution.. I can see it.

There, do you feel better? ;)

Greens rock.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:44 AM
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10. Davis' last minute efforts not to stick
Makes me rather ill at best. :puke:

However, at least the legislative bills he signed will "stick". Can't change that Ahnulllddddd ...

Backdoor deals and arm bending galore - what about the average citizen that did vote? What about what THEY voted for? Does anything matter anymore? :grr:

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 01:36 PM
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18. Ya know, Democrats and Republicans are just the perfect match
They're domineering sadists, and we're self-indulgent victims. It's perfect. We just want to smooth it over and hope it gets better, and they just want to take and take and take and scream bloody murder at any impediments and take some more.

We are ridiculous.

Clinton thought that by bringing things back toward the middle and appeasing the right that they'd be more decent, and they rewarded him by impeachment, constant legal action and vigilant vilification. Are we going to learn anything?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 04:52 PM
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20. I have not found which appointments they are as neither the Times nor
SFGate emntions them, but I DO have a great deal of trust for Burton who is about as liberal as they get and a great state senator. If he negotiated this to hold out an olive branch to Arnold and say, "We will work with you, if you work with us" he will gladly go after Arnold when Arnold breaks deals.

I'm not terribly pleased that SO MUCH POWER was given to Arnold, and did support Davis, but frankly, Davis had five years to fill these positions...
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 04:52 PM
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21. WHY!!??????? GFD THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS SERIOUS PROBLEMS!!! (n/t)
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 10:31 PM
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25. Dems need to read the news and see what is coming down the pike with him!!
Edited on Sat Oct-25-03 10:32 PM by w4rma
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 06:45 PM
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22. Those noodle backboned IDIOTs
make me sick! :puke: :puke: :puke: :grr: :mad: :nuke:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 07:46 PM
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23. fucking fools
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 07:49 PM
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24. What the f#ck?
Edited on Sat Oct-25-03 07:49 PM by Democat
Democrats are fucking idiots and cowards and we will continue to lose for many more years because our idiot leaders simply aren't willing to fight.

Once again we become the "nice" losers.
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Infinite Velocity Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:36 PM
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27. How many state workers will he lay off?
This is what gets me.... The very same people who voted that idiot in office will get the axe. Now, how stupid is that...???

I don't think people realise how serious it is losing California to the gop. Will it turn into another Florida Election fiasco in 2004? Me thinks the fox is now in California's hen house too...F*CK!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 08:19 AM
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31. the Governor does not oversee elections in California
The Sec. of State does, and he is a Democrat.
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Infinite Velocity Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:01 PM
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38. "the Governor does not oversee elections in California"
Thanks for the info Freddie.
One could only hope the Secretary of State isn't pressured to appoint hand-picked gop overseers of the election.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:25 AM
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29. Any CA Democrat that coddles SchwarzeNazi is not MY representative.
As history will one day prove, Arnold was placed through yet another electoral theft. Therefore, he is not legitimate. Therefore, those who willingly work with him are skating on treasonous ice - assuming they know he is not legit, of course.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:18 AM
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35. John Burton doesn't play 'footsie' with any Republican
Senate Leader John Burton has gone to the mat with Republicans and Gray Davis too. You can bet if he made this decision it was with good reason.

This guy doesn't take any sh*t from anybody and always votes right.

Don't jump to conclusions over this. Also Gray Davis, unfortunately, is not a man given to appointing people with integrity.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:25 AM
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36. Good point and welcome to DU, CreekDog
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 10:26 AM by Jack Rabbit
John Burton has long been one of the feistiest Democrats in California. He isn't one to roll over and play dead. He's getting something for this and if Arnold doesn't live up to his end of the bargain, Burton will make him pay.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:45 AM
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37. Thanks Jack Rabbit
This is the home of feisty Democrats!
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:17 PM
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39. My second...
reaction after reading this yesterday (after WTF!) was pretty much the same as yours. Burton knows what he's doing. Arnie's only a photo op...Pete Wilson's the real Gov. You might say that nothing is as it seems.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:46 PM
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40. Agreed. I trust Burton's strategy and he is no DINO
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