ABC BREAKING: Spy in the Whitehouse

[UpInArms]

Marine worked (last for Cheney) in highest levels and breached the highest level of National Security.

(link - thanks VolcanoJen!)

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1187030&page=1

Oct. 5, 2005 — Both the FBI and CIA are calling it the first case of espionage in the White House in modern history.

Officials tell ABC News the alleged spy worked undetected at the White House for almost three years. Leandro Aragoncillo, 46, was a U.S. Marine most recently assigned to the staff of Vice President Dick Cheney.

"I don't know of a case where the vetting broke down before and resulted in a spy being in the White House," said Richard Clarke, a former White House advisor who is now an ABC News consultant.

Federal investigators say Aragoncillo, a naturalized citizen from the Philippines, used his top secret clearance to steal classified intelligence documents from White House computers.

In 2000, Aragoncillo worked on the staff of then-Vice President Al Gore. When interviewed by Philippine television, he remarked how valued Philippine employees were at the White House.

"I think what they like most is our integrity and loyalty," Aragoncillo said.

...more...

[WI_DEM]

1. Is it possible that Cheney himself could be indicted?

[TallahasseeGrannie]

4. Breathe...breathe..

slowly, slowly. I run and get you a paper bag.

[webtrainer]

87. maybe, check out this headline and kicker graf . . .

WHITE HOUSE SPY LINKED TO COUP
6.10.2005. 09:30:20

The American ABC television network has claimed that a former US Marine and naturalised US citizen from the Philippines breached security at the White House and allegedly used his top secret clearances to steal documents from the office of Vice President Dick Cheney.

http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region.php?id=122406®ion=4

[Roland99]

106. Interesting site someone posted in a comment on my blog >>>

http://www.cicentre.com/Documents/DOC_Aragoncillo_Aquino.html

Arrested: Saturday, 10 September 2005

Charges:

--Knowingly communicating classified information by a government employee to an agent or representative of a foreign country (i.e. receiving classified information).

--Acting as an agent of a foreign official without notification of the Attorney General in violation of Title 18 of the US Code, Section 951

--Unauthorized use of a government computer to obtain and transmit classified information

--Conspiracy to commit all of the above offenses in violation of Title 18 of the US Code Section 371.

[radwriter0555]

123. I'd say this trumps the "clinton sold missiles to the chinese" pile of

crap, right?

[usregimechange]

131. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

[deadparrot]

2. Damn, I'm gonna gain so much weight from all this popcorn...

:popcorn:

[MissB]

20. You know,

it *does* look like they've increased the size of the handful of popcorn that smilie is shoveling in its mouth.

[Up2Late]

104. LOL

too funny! Here, have a Carrot.

[AuntiBush]

107. We Should Invest "Heavily" in PopCorn...

Imagine the stocks rising sky-wards right now.

Good one, deadparrot.

:popcorn: anyone?

[banana republican]

110. Too many Champagne bottles popping!!!! n/t

[AspenRose]

130. Kettle Korn, mmmmmmm

:popcorn:

[jackstraw45]

3. "honor and dignity" back to the White House...

That's what they said in 2000, right?

[zanne]

7. Oh.....but wait...

He worked for Gore! There it is! I knew they wouldn't leave Clinton out of it!

[VolcanoJen]

16. Bingo! And guess who they'll blame it on?

"Well, Gore hired him! How were we supposed to know that he spied for the Phillipines right under our noses for ALMOST THREE YEARS?"

:eyes:

[jefferson_dem]

37. The knuckle-draggers in freeperville are already in damage control mode -

Spy was originally hired and vetted by Vice President Al Gore (Vanity)
October 5, 2005


Posted on 10/05/2005 3:47:27 PM PDT by johnmecainrino


This isn't in the headlines by ABC, you would think who originally hired the spy would be important. They would be responsible for the vetting.

I wonder if that fool Richard Clarke would be bashing the white house if he knew the spy was originally hired and vetted by Al Gore.



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[Roon]

49. They pulled the thread eom

[Mike Daniels]

147. Only because it's a duplicate

[YDogg]

11. The adults are in charge.

I think.

:popcorn:

[radwriter0555]

124. Actually, the New Republican Nazis are in charge... the bush regime in

all its glory...

[opihimoimoi]

5. A SPY??? Who did the Marine work for? The Chinese, Saddam, Osama?

the Ruskies, Tuvians?

[electropop]

10. wal-mart?

[VolcanoJen]

13. The Phillipines, actually.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1187030&page=1

[opihimoimoi]

26. They wanna go nuke too? Or, did the spy want clues on how to fuck

a Gov't to Death by watching Bush do it?

[damntexdem]

38. Well, he worked for Darth Cheney, so ...

they must have wanted instructions on how to use the Dark Side of the Force.

But the spy worked for some opposition groups in the Philippines.

[ClintonTyree]

43. Al Gore MADE him work for Cheney.....

that's what the freeps are saying anyway. It's all Al Gore's fault. :eyes:

[Eureka]

97. No, rigging elections, but you're on the right track

President Arroyo has recently been in a whole bunch of trouble for election rigging. My guess is along the same lines as yours, except that it was for getting tips for the opposition on rigging elections.

Can you think of a better place to look?

[6th Borough]

158. We supply the Philippines w/ a significant amount of military training...

and equipment. The government of the Philippines (or any other country with whom we provide these "services") could certainly benefit in several different ways were they to have knowledge of what sort of aid they can expect to receive "down the pipeline".

[shanti]

82. ok, so....

he worked for gore AND *ush. he wanted secrets from BOTH sides? :shrug:

[AlGore-08.com]

120. According to ABC News he admitted spying while working in Cheney's office

So far, the news coverage says he transmitted the stolen data during 2004 and 2005.

Anybody else reminded of Wen Ho Li and wondering if this will turn out to be bogus as well?

[Paranoid Pessimist]

89. He wasn't spying for Islam terrorist or anything like that, he . . .

. . . was spying for enemies of President Gloria Arroyo, who were trying to organize a (now seemingly failed) coup to take advantage of the fact that President Arroyo has been weakened by some incomprehensible scandal (my wife is Filipino and I travel there frequently). No doubt there will be folks who will try to spin this into something dangerous and threatening to Americans, but Philippine politics is hilarious comedy. The previous president, a broken down old actor nicknamed Erap, is in custody and for awhile it looked like President Arroyo would have an adjoining cell down the hall.

[knitter4democracy]

153. That's a problem.

He was passing on information damaging their president to opposition groups. Just which opposition groups are we talking about? The ones connected to Al Qaeda? God, I hope not.

[Paranoid Pessimist]

168. No, not the militant islam group

Factions like this in Philippine elections are about getting your guys in there to grab up the graft. Political corruption is a big opportunity for those who can position themselves, and they all feel entitled to it. Imelda Marcos is on the television lately whining that all her stolen booty is being auctioned off, and she believes she's entitled to every bit of it. That's just the way things are.

[knitter4democracy]

172. That's better, but it's still bad.

Having a spy that high up is always bad, but at least it's not to the Al Qaeda groups.

[electropop]

6. Good thing we have the grownups in charge of national security.

Assholes. Buh-bye Dick!

[central scrutinizer]

15. yeah, it's not like

gay male prostitutes using an alias and "working" for a fabricated news organization could gain almost unlimited access to the White House and even stay the night on numerous occassions, is it?

[electropop]

21. And imagine the horror if somebody had outed a CIA operative?

:sarcasm:

[AuntiBush]

108. Shuttering, Just Thinking About That One...

Naw. Not even. No. Way.

:sarcasm:

[Bernardo de La Paz]

58. Fight 'em over there, aid & comfort them at the Home (for the incompetent)

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. Another one? Wow!

Maybe we'll hit a trifecta today?

[VolcanoJen]

9. Link here...

This is big, imho... more problems for the White House.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1187030&page=1

Excerpt:

Oct. 5, 2005 — Both the FBI and CIA are calling it the first case of espionage in the White House in modern history.

Officials tell ABC News the alleged spy worked undetected at the White House for almost three years. Leandro Aragoncillo, 46, was a U.S. Marine most recently assigned to the staff of Vice President Dick Cheney.

"I don't know of a case where the vetting broke down before and resulted in a spy being in the White House," said Richard Clarke, a former White House advisor who is now an ABC News consultant.

Federal investigators say Aragoncillo, a naturalized citizen from the Philippines, used his top secret clearance to steal classified intelligence documents from White House computers.

In 2000, Aragoncillo worked on the staff of then-Vice President Al Gore. When interviewed by Philippine television, he remarked how valued Philippine employees were at the White House.

"I think what they like most is our integrity and loyalty," Aragoncillo said.

[Trillo]

23. Is this just a Marine falling on his sword for his CIC

and to obfuscate the issue of a corrupt Executive Branch?

[donkeyotay]

39. My first thought, too

I was just reading the rumor about 22 indictments coming from Fitzgerald and all of a sudden we have a patsy.

[ElectroPrincess]

85. The typical RUSE - muddy the water and confuse the sheeple ...

These evil bastards have absolutely no shame. :cry:

[shanti]

83. ahhhhh!

so now we know why they locked the place down this morning.

[VolcanoJen]

84. That's the first thing I thought of, shanti...

... except that, after reading the article, it seems he was charged a month ago.

:shrug: I'm so confused. :shrug:

[i miss america]

12. Is this a major story or a calculated diversion?

:popcorn:

[Danieljay]

40. or is it the FALL GUY for the Valerie Plame Leak? N/T

[TroglodyteScholar]

86. SOMETHING isn't right here...

"The information was transferred mostly by e-mails," said U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie at the time of Aragoncillo's arrest.

Yea, okay, so this fellow transmitted top secret documents via EMAIL from the FBI or within the White House? Is this line believable to ANYONE?

[jazzjunkysue]

111. The chimp doesn't worry about the internets, apparently.

[northzax]

115. he wasn't in the white house

he was working for the FBI at Ft. Monmouth. He's charged with:

The audit revealed that from between about May 1 and Aug. 15, 2005, Aragoncillo either printed or downloaded 101 classified documents concerning the Philippines, of which 37 were classified at the "Secret" level. he'd left the White House several years before.

from the DOJ website: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nj/publicaffairs/NJ_Press/files/arag0912_r.htm

[TroglodyteScholar]

119. Read my post again...

...via EMAIL from the FBI or within the White House...

So this was when he was with the FBI, then, huh? So we're to believe that the Bureau doesn't have a level of internet security comparable to, say, your average corporation?

[i miss america]

121. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

[Skittles]

132. only if you believe they have less security in the White House

than they do in the average corporation

[haele]

133. Easy to send any type of documents via e-mail

Just scan a hardcopy into a .pdf, then send via e-mail. The only difference between sending top secret documents and normal unclassified documents that businesses constantly send each other is the coding on the original document. If a hard copy had been scanned and converted into a .pdf, there's no way to tell the security classification until the file was opened.
If he had some independence at his workstation, no one would know unless his e-mails were intercepted and read - or when people started tracing the found illegally obtained documents back to the source.
With the constant intrigue just under the surface going one in the Philippines, I wouldn't be surprised if that's how he was caught -US top secret documents were found when some Philippine military officer buddy of his was caught up in yet another coup attempt.

Haele

[catzies]

109. If this were a poll, I'd choose that option.

n/t

[ozymandius]

141. That was my thought.

They have another patsy in uniform to take the heat.

[Lugnut]

102. My vote goes to

Calculated diversion. Why is this old news suddenly a big deal unless they'd want to deflect attention from something really important?

[LynneSin]

14. Here's the link

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1187030&page=1

[bahrbearian]

17. Are sure it was Real Marine or just Jeff Gannon?

[YDogg]

18. Sweet Jesus.

:wtf:

[seemslikeadream]

19. WHY ISN'T AN AMERICAN SPY STORY GOOD ENOUGH

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4981345

[Behind the Aegis]

29. This IS about an AMERICAN SPY.

"Federal investigators say Aragoncillo, a naturalized citizen from the Philippines..." I guess he's from the wrong country to spark your interest. :shrug:

[seemslikeadream]

50. Larry Franklin is a BIG story and the msm is not covering it

and he just pled guility a couple hours ago


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[Behind the Aegis]

139. Look again...

ABC
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1187402

CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/06/national/main917327.shtml?CMP=ILC-SearchStories

CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/05/pentagon.guilty/index.html

NBC/MSNBC
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9530940/

And it is all over the presses, even local newspapers.

Is it because it is not the top story that is the problem? :shrug:

[6th Borough]

159. The Franklin debacle was covered in my local morning paper.

I guess it depends on what publisher services your area.

As for the TV MSM...well, I rarely bother to watch TV news.

[Toucano]

22. Something doesn't smell right about this!

Smells a bit like...patsey.

Careful of your excitement. This is time-released.

[radwriter0555]

126. Yes, you're right. it's a set-up.

It sounds like they're aiming to blame clinton's administration for this.

[BeHereNow]

24. Wow- this "hugh..."

Between this and the Franklin-handing-over to Israel...
It's about to get really interesting.
Pass the popcorn please.
BHN

[VolcanoJen]

30. The "HUGH!!1111 Very Series!!1111" threads are cracking me up!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[stop the bleeding]

25. But what does it really mean?!?!? - could the dark prince

really be in trouble?

[librechik]

27. No, No! Look over there!

Not THAT spy! THE OTHER SPY!!! OVER THERE!!!

[Danieljay]

28. convenient Scapegoat for the Plame leak..

is this a set up for taking the fall. Clever, blame this guy for the Valerie Plame leak and the rest of the staff is cleared.

How convenient...

[renate]

35. that's what I thought too...

Damn it.

Someone please cheer me up and tell me why this is bad for Bush, Cheney, and Rove. After all, they weren't the ones in charge of vetting him.

The more I think about this, the more I feel as if my party balloon has been popped by a bully....

[deadparrot]

31. Drudge has got it now...

http://drudgereport.com/

[catnhatnh]

32. How the hell does working there 3 years....

...involve Gore or Clinton...Remember the adults have own the White House for over 5 years??????

[VolcanoJen]

44. In the same way that 9/11 happened because Clinton bombed...

... an aspirin factory. :eyes:

C'mon now... nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, is the fault of Bush and/or Cheney.

The buck stops five years ago.

:-)

[Generator]

94. The buck stops five years ago

Precious. thanks for the laugh!

[rainbow4321]

51. Same reason crappy TX schools under chimp were Richards' "fault"

If you were to listen to chimpass' excuses...6 yrs after Richards left office and chimp was STILL blaming her for bad test scores and everything else that was going wrong in Texas (under his regime).

Texans have seen this before. Asswipe chimphead will be blaming Clinton for everything right up til Jan 2009. His library will probably have a "Blame Clinton" wing right next to the "Blame Richards" wing.

[kath]

128. because he hired on at the WH in '99 or 2000, worked there for several

years, and has been at the FBI most recently.

[RamboLiberal]

33. Besides Cheney and Gore, Claims to have worked for Condi

and Clinton. From ABC story.

According to friends, in addition to his work for Cheney and Gore, Aragoncillo claimed he also worked with President Clinton and Condoleezza Rice when she was the national security advisor.

Limpballs and Shannity, plus Drudge and all the other RW media lackeys will try to pin this on Clinton and Gore.

IMHO looks like the FBI did a bad job of vetting this guy. And I don't blame either administration on this one.

[masshole]

34. Dick has a mole

So he worked a year or less for Gore... it's not like he CAME with the VP's office and Dick HAD to keep him.
I'm sure he had to be re-apply for his job.

[Toucano]

54. Get that mole off your Dick, George! n/t

LOL! That's too evil.

[Maddy McCall]

36. A drunk prez, a male prostitute reporter, and now a spy. What else is new?

[ElectroPrincess]

93. You have to ask our learned colleagues on the other side of the aisle

When is it ENOUGH to break ranks with your party's President?

Isn't the welfare of OUR Country enough for the honorable Republicans to say, "NO MORE!" from this horrid Executive Branch?

[Steely_Dan]

134. Your Frog...

...is disturbing. I like it.

-P

[Fridays Child]

41. Officer Barbrady sez...

[hatrack]

42. 'I am a spy in the house of Dick"

No, wait, that's Jeff Gannon/Guckert's theme song, isn't it? :evilgrin:

[rocktivity]

45. TORO TURD!!!

This is a weapon of mass distraction meant to divert from the Plame indictments, which are rumored to be many and close together.

They probably had the goods on this guy all along, but were waiting for the right moment to bust him. And he originally worked for a Democrat--how conveeeeeeeeeinent!

:eyes:
rocknation

[quiet.american]

90. You. Have. Nailed. It. That is all. n/t

[Wrinkle_In_Time]

114. Oui, déconner! It is the excrement of bovine males.

This is a distraction. But just watch it get some serious MSM traction...

I'm guessing that broadcast TV will have graphics and taglines and jingles and crawlers and 'this just in' reports and anchors on location (wherever) and man-on-the-street interviews and senior correspondants and and and
:nuke:

[goclark]

136. Their Code Red Homeland Security Should Have busted Him

What a piece of crap their abilities are --- they can't protect us from someone operating inside the WH!

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

46. Spying for the Philipines? What secrets did he pass?

How to deliver fresh running water to towns?
The importance of sainitary sewage systems to health?
How to keep teenage prostitution at bay?

[Brother Buzz]

74. He was passing on dirt on the present Philippine administration...

to an opposition party. Me thinks this guy might be a good one, and in another world might even have had Al Gore's blessings.

Interesting, the arrest was Sept 10th, almost a month ago, but it only splashes now. Think the WH might be a little bit edgy at the moment?

[ruggerson]

47. Score another one for having the competent "adults" in charge

n/t

[truthisfreedom]

48. I have no doubt this guy is gay and was brought in for the same reason as

gannon/guckert. gannon/guckert wasn't "vetted" either... someone in the whitehouse likes gay military studs. who?

[muriel_volestrangler]

76. excellent -

:rofl:

[DS1]

52. THE GROWN UPS ARE IN CHARGE! THE GROWN UPS ARE IN CHARGE!

/Paul Revere's Ride, 2005

//Sadly too true

///Slashnut

[Bernardo de La Paz]

57. Republicans in the White House making you feel safer?

[DS1]

59. Marines don't steal

It said so in my handbook.

So I can't explain my missing Tool, Stone Temple Pilots, and Pearl Jam CDs. It obviously wasn't Marines who stole them :eyes:

[Straight Shooter]

53. Oh, this is going to make the Marine Corps REAL happy.

Not.

Incredibly suspicious timing on release of this info. :banghead:

[Sabriel]

55. How could he steal White House intelligence...

(Go ahead, finish the sentence.)

[loudsue]

112. There's no "intelligence" in the White House to steal!!!

:rofl: Yep...you nailed that one!!

:kick:

[cal04]

56. According to this on Americablog this is Sept 15 th news . Check it out

THE U.S. Department of Justice has released the rap sheets filed against Michael Ray Aquino, a former ranking official of the Philippine National Police, and Leandro Aragoncillo, an intelligence analyst of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

The two were charged with espionage on two counts, first with conspiring to defraud the U.S. government by disclosing classified information under the following circumstances:


http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=399

[VolcanoJen]

63. Yes, but neither that story, nor the actual criminal complaint...

... makes any mention of working at The White House.

That's what makes this story so hugh!111

:-)

[Blue_Tires]

60. omfg!!!!! this is hugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!one

can't wait to see how this plays out

[StrafingMoose]

61. If it's huge...

their using it probably to cover something else...

[Danieljay]

62. I'm telling you...perhaps he's the fall guy for the Valerie Plame outing..

If they blame this guy no one has to take the fall. Hopefully Fitzgerald has the goods on the rest of them.

[screembloodymurder]

66. My guess.

He knows who is responsible for the bombing in Bali and it wasn't the Al Queada.

[Joe Turner]

135. he could also be a material witness in the Plame Scandal

...and has been framed on spy charges to destroy his credibility. Great Thread BTW. Let's us hope that the Truth Prevails.

[StrafingMoose]

68. Would be typical patsy placement

[screembloodymurder]

69. He could be a Fitzgerald witness!!!

If the indictments are imminent, this could be a preemptive strike.

[lavenderdiva]

99. this is exactly what I was thinking...

this is a diversion to 'explain' away the White House involvement in the Plame case. Blame the marine. 'Oh no! it wasn't us, Mr. Fitzgerald, it was the marine, who had access to our computers, etc.'........

[anotherdrew]

64. voice of the whitehouse?

[olddad56]

65. I think that it is bullshit, just a ploy to sell the terrorism crap.

[AlCzervik]

67. Does this have anything to do with Arroyo i wonder?

Her own government was trying to boot her out yes?

[me b zola]

167. Yes.

The marines are charged with stealing classified documents, dossier's that are filled with dirt about Arroyo and giving them to her opposition.

Here are my questions:

1) Why are we collecting dirt on Arroyo?

2) Is it possible that the BFEE wants to oust Arroyo, and these marines are the tools that they used to disseminate this info?

[cascadiance]

70. Maybe Fitzgerald NOW has a source of info that hasn't been

buried or put through the shredder. Maybe Fitzgerald can subpoena this guy and his associates to get the info that Rove and Cheney don't want to get out where it still hasn't been "destroyed"... Film at 11! Since this guy might be facing a death sentence, I'm betting he could cut a plea deal!

They are probably trying to get Cheney's, Bush's and Rove's notes on how to avoid impeachment to hand on to their president there!

[screembloodymurder]

71. I'm betting this guy will not be allowed to speak to anyone

not even his lawyer

[cascadiance]

78. Probably right... Will get the "Padilla Treatment"...

Thank you for the Patriot Act! NOT!

[Mark E. Smith]

72. Hey! Not Only Did The Bushies Catch That Spy ...

... they did it in less than 6 years!

That's pretty fast for them. Just ask Osama!

[Kablooie]

73. This was news back in SEPTEMBER!

http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/hl/hl102815.htm

[seemslikeadream]

75. This story is meant to divert attention from the FRANKLIN SPY story

and it is doing a fine job!

[sadiesworld]

160. Yep, it's become pretty clear by now.

The level of collaboration required to pull this shit off leaves me breathless some days.

I'm learning that it's a long fall down the rabbit hole.

[cal04]

77. three more links

The defendants face a charge of conspiracy and a charge of acting as unregistered foreign agents, the latter of which carries a sentence of up to 10 years and a $250,000 fine. Aragoncillo also was charged with unauthorized use of a government computer, which carries a sentence of up to 10 years and a $250,000 fine.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/09/12/fbi_intel_analyst_charged_with_spying/


http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1103060.php

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-09-12-espionage-filipino_x.htm?csp=34

[lovuian]

79. Heres my question Why does Cheney have those Important files

in his computer??? He is a Vice President in charge of nothing and he has a spy working for him getting access to Top Secret Documents!!!

Its showing Cheney's office was working on coups all over the world!!!

[Carni]

80. Ok HOLD THE PHONE--Is THIS guy going to be the Plame leaker?

Why do I smell a rat?

All of a sudden there's a *spy* in Cheney's circle of friends?

I don't know if it's an overly active case of tin foil or if this is another bait and switch--what do you people think?

[0007]

95. It was my first thought. I'm sure it has crossed many many minds.

[Carni]

101. I just did some googling and it sounds totally hyped

One article stated these clowns passed non-classified info.

I have no idea but the articles originally came out on 9-16 so why the big hoopla now? (That was sarcasm I know the answer to that question!)

[stillcool]

103. Two stories....same spy

http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/hl/hl102815.htm

EX-LACSON AIDE NABBED IN U.S. FOR ESPIONAGE

WASHINGTON, September 14, 2005 (STAR) By Jose Katigbak, STAR Washington bureau - Cashiered police Senior Superintendent Michael Ray "Ninoy" Aquino, wanted for murder in the Philippines, has been arrested in New Jersey on charges of espionage.

The Philippines does not have an extradition request for Aquino, said Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the US Attorney’s Office.

Federal Bureau of Investigation agents arrested Aquino, an aide of Sen. Panfilo Lacson when he was Philippine National Police chief, along with Filipino-American Leandro Aragoncillo, an FBI intelligence analyst and former US Marine, for allegedly stealing "highly classified" material stored in computers at an FBI
office.


http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1187030&page=1

Oct. 5, 2005 — Both the FBI and CIA are calling it the first case of espionage in the White House in modern history.

Officials tell ABC News the alleged spy worked undetected at the White House for almost three years. Leandro Aragoncillo, 46, was a U.S. Marine most recently assigned to the staff of Vice President Dick Cheney.

[grahamhgreen]

113. High probability

Especially if Judith Miller corroborated in her testimony.

[Magleetis]

81. Breaking

Spy in white house reveals the * administrations not so secret plan to take over the world.

[elehhhhna]

88. MY AZZ. n/t

the first case of espionage in the White House in modern history.


mod'hist = this week.

[Freedomfried]

96. Cheneys involved, I betcha!

I think Cheney might of known about and encouraged the passing of derogatory information to the opposition groups after the setback in public relations due to President Arroyo's withdrawal of troops from the coalition in Iraq.

Look at the Plame case, it's the same MO.

[elehhhhna]

154. strange, i mention my azz & you think of cheney--

are they the same entity? could be!
Never saw 'em both in the same place, riiight?

[EVDebs]

91. Isn't the Defense Security Service (DSS) supposed to vet these guys ?

www.dss.mil/ is their website. Maybe the Office of Inspector General of the Defense Dept. or whatever agency does oversight can report something back to Congress on this. ABC is making a point of showing this guy was hired on under VP Gore's time also. In any event, those in the DOD who were responsible for vetting may want to look into the FBI's Hanssen case for any similarities. The question becomes "why ?" did he do it.

[Generator]

92. Cheney's office? NOOOOOOOOO color me puzzled beyond reason

}(

[tabasco]

98. Well at least they restored integrity to the White House !

Nobody got a blowjob did they?

[JerseygirlCT]

100. Just wait, it'll all be Gore's fault this time. nt

[Up2Late]

105. "...intelligence documents from White House..." Come on now, that's...

...just silly, their ARE NO intelligent documents in the White House. :rofl:

[norml]

116. WHITE HOUSE SPY LINKED TO COUP

WHITE HOUSE SPY LINKED TO COUP
6.10.2005. 12:06:05


The American ABC television network has claimed that a former US Marine and naturalised US citizen from the Philippines breached security at the White House and allegedly used his top secret clearances to steal documents from the office of Vice President Dick Cheney.


ABC alleged that Leandro Aragoncillo, 46, worked undetected at the White House for almost three years before leaving to take a job with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

He was arrested last month and accused by the FBI of downloading more than 100 classified documents from FBI computers.

Officials told ABC the classified material which Mr Aragoncillo stole included damaging dossiers on the president of the Philippines.

They were allegedly passed on to opposition politicians planning a coup in the Pacific nation.

The White House referred reporters to the FBI, but confirmed an investigation had been launched.

"No comment, all questions have to be addressed to the FBI, it's a pending investigation and the White House will do its best to cooperate," said deputy White House spokesman Trent Duffy.


snip


http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region.php?id=122406®ion=4

[Catherine Vincent]

117. I wonder why the article felt the need to include this tidbit:

>>In 2000, Aragoncillo worked on the staff of then-Vice President Al Gore. When interviewed by Philippine television, he remarked how valued Philippine employees were at the White House.<<

[Halliburton]

118. Don't take the bait!

It's a DIVERSION! Karl is trying to get your attention off of Treasongate. Stay focused!

[SlavesandBulldozers]

125. ITS A TRAAAAP!

[Mabus]

122. Michael Ray Aquino caper: 'Controlled leak' gone wrong?

Michael Ray Aquino caper: 'Controlled leak' gone wrong?
First posted 07:44am (Mla time) Sept 17, 2005
By TJ Burgonio
Inquirer News Service


Editor's Note: Published on Page A4 of the September 17, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF Investigation had a hand in the leak of classified information to Philippine officials, and tried to cover up when it was exposed to the media by suing its agent, according to retired Navy Commodore Rex Robles.

"My assumption is that it's a controlled leak gone wrong," Robles, chief of the Philippine military intelligence service's domestic section in 1968-72, said yesterday in a phone interview.

He was referring to US authorities' purported practice of sending intelligence information to political leaders and top businessmen in an effort to build communication lines.

Robles said it was possible an overzealous agent "who wanted to go up the ladder" exposed the communication of FBI classified information to outsiders "without knowing it was a legitimate operation" of Leandro Aragoncillo, the conduit.

the rest of the story at link: http://news.inq7.net/nation/index.php?index=1&story_id=50490

[Mabus]

127. History of arrests in the USA of Michael Ray Aquino

CAPTURED

HISTORY OF ARRESTS IN THE USA OF MICHAEL RAY AQUINO

Filipino fugitive nabbed by US feds in New York
Michael Ray Aquino


NEW YORK, March 17, 2005 --- Filipino fugitive and former aide to Senator Panfilo Lacson who was linked to the 1995 killing of suspected Kuratong Baleleng gang members was arrested on Tuesday morning for an alleged immigration violation.

Michael Ray Aquino, who was also implicated in the abduction and killing of publicist Salvador “Bubby” Dacer and his driver Emmanuel Corbito in November 2000, was reportedly nabbed by US authorities at Federal Plaza Building in New York City.

According to a source who spoke to Filipino Express on anonymity, Aquino is currently detained in Passaic County jail and could face deportation.

[Mabus]

129. Aquino (Aragoncillo's accomplice) obtained VISA despite cancelled passport

Note the date: April 13, 2003.

U.S. issued visas to two fugitives

|From Our Bureau Chief
Manila
April 13, 2003


Former police senior superintendents Michael Ray Aquino and Cesar Mancao secured work and student visas in the U.S. last year despite the cancellation of their passports, a senior official said.

"This has stalled their extradition after their passports were cancelled on the request of the Philippine government last year," said Director Reynaldo Wycoco of the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI).

"Filipinos in the U.S. have provided us this information," said Wycoco. "It is possible that they used fake documents in obtaining their visas.

"We have sought the help of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to find out how Aquino and Mancao were able to secure these permits and visas considering that their passports have been cancelled," Wycoco noted.

http://pub6.bravenet.com/forum/472701568/fetch/609858

Now how long has Aquino been known to the FBI and other law enforcement officials?

[Peter Frank]

137. Former White House staffer investigated...

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A former Marine who worked at the White House in the vice president's office for three years is under investigation for allegedly misusing his top-secret clearance to steal classified information from computers, which he then allegedly sent to people in the Philippines, multiple U.S. government sources told CNN late Wednesday...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/06/wh.stolen.info/index.html

[HuffleClaw]

138. hmmm. 'FORMER white house staffer'

so, thats the spin is it? and a cheney link to boot. this stuff just gets better and better.

for laughs? you've GOT to see the desperate attempts to brush this aside at free republic.

[ngGale]

140. I'm not sure if I should....

LMAO - :rofl: cry - :cry: or eat some more popcorn!:popcorn:

[Vinca]

142. I swear . . . you couldn't make this stuff up if you tried.

Dubya "I'll Keep You Safe" Bush virtually gift wrapping our intelligence and giving it away. Does ANYONE check ANYTHING in this White House? This is the worst bunch of incompetents in our history and we're stuck with 3 more years.

[mainer]

143. Trust me. They'll use this to attack Gore

You'll notice that the link takes you to the article -- with an old photo of this guy grinning with GORE.

The story is about the spy in the CURRENT White House. But the photo they use is from the last administration, of course. Because there's a democrat to be smeared.

[Dover]

Well, the U.S. apparently did the same thing to India. Remember this >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=605344
____________________________________________________________


But this has got to be a record for spys inside the beltway of the U.S. gov.. After all, before this Phillipine spy we had the whole Israeli spy thing...>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=783161

[Dover]

144. Well, the U.S. apparently did the same thing to India. Remember this >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=605344
____________________________________________________________


But this has got to be a record for spys inside the beltway of the U.S. gov.. After all, before this Phillipine spy we had the whole Israeli spy thing...>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=783161

[Dover]

145. "I think what they like most is our integrity and loyalty,"

I think that statement by Aragoncillo should have been a dead give away.

It's kind of like FOX News advertising that they are 'fair and balanced'.

[Mizmoon]

146. This is terrible

I mean, I hate Cheney, that greedy pig, but I hate spies more.

[zbdent]

148. Boy, that "scrutinizing" really pays off, doesn't it?

I mean, hey, you found out that there were about ten fluent Arabic translators who were gay, and got rid of them!

Now, the Anthrax mailer, um, uh, well, "we couldn't figure that one out."

And now, you have one of the few "carryovers from the Clinton/Gore era" (1999/2000) who started working in the White House (in, what, 2002?) who escaped the scrutiny that the Bush misAdministration is widely known for?

Boy, this one is comical!

[Logansquare]

149. This "breaking story" happened THREE WEEKS AGO

It was all over international news, and was even in the Marine Times on 9/15. He is not a "White House" spy, although he was employed there previously; the acts of espionage occured while he was working as an analyst for the FBI in their Monmouth (NJ) facility.
http://www.marinetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1103060.php

If this isn't a fucking diversion tactic from the WH, I don't know what is. They know that the mainstream media will run after anything shiny.

[walkon]

155. Sneaky Bastards

I do love this headline from ABC, though.


Espionage Case Suggests White House Security Problem
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Investigation/story?id=1188625&page=1

[Logansquare]

161. Ha, that's because the suggested headline on the WH fax

was too long for them to fit: "Espionage Case Suggests White House Security Problem. And It's Al Gore's Fault for Hiring Him, In Ihe First Place."

[papau]

150. Former White House staffer investigated (Filipino spy in Cheney's office)

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/06/wh.stolen.info/index.html

Former White House staffer investigated
Sources say probe involves possible stolen information

Thursday, October 6, 2005; Posted: 8:10 a.m. EDT (12:10 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A former Marine (arrested in Sept. on one count of conspiracy and one count of acting as an unregistered agent subject to the direction of a foreign official) who worked at the White House is under (a new) investigation for allegedly misusing his top-secret clearance to steal classified information from computers, multiple U.S. government sources told CNN late Wednesday.

Leandro Aragoncillo, 46, who worked as an FBI intelligence analyst after working at the White House, worked in the vice president's office from 1999 to 2001, during both the Clinton-Gore and Bush-Cheney administrations (and was arrested in September, along with Michael Aquino, deputy director of the Philippines National Police and enemy of Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, on charges that he used an FBI database to download and pass along classified information). <snip>

Among the documents that Aragoncillo allegedly downloaded was a dossier on Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, which he passed on to her political opposition in the Philippines, according to CNN's multiple government sources.
<snip>

According to a criminal complaint, Aragoncillo allegedly used an FBI database at the Fort Monmouth Information Technology Center in New Jersey to search, download and print classified documents concerning the Philippines. He then allegedly sent e-mails, with the classified documents attached, to at least three people in the Philippines, including current and former government officials, according to the complaint.<snip>

[papau]

151. Dupe - link to earlier post below

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1829810&mesg_id=1829810

[Oversea Visitor]

152. Aaah who is this spy working for

Hmmm he try to do the Phillipine President hmmm cannot be Phillipine haha.

[AllegroRondo]

156. So 4 years after 9-11 and we still cant get decent security at the WH?

what have they been doing for the last 4 years?

[hippiechick]

157. um yeah .. his name is DICK and he's been spying for Halliburton ...

... and robbing the US Treasury blind for about 5 years now ...

[Dangerously Amused]

162. QUICK!! EVERYONE!! We have to liberate the Philippines!

We know they have the information to construct WMDs in the areas west, north, east and south of Manila, because their spy stole the plans when Dick Cheney left them on the copy machine. By the way, we are aware that the Philippines have a substantial amount of oil, which has nothing whatsoever to do with our invasion, so there.


"The Philippines is currently in a dispute with the Republic of China (Taiwan), the People's Republic of China, Vietnam and Malaysia over the oil- and natural gas-rich Spratly Islands and Scarborough Shoal, and with Malaysia over Sabah." -

Source: Wikipedia

[Realityhack]

163. Unfortunately this will play very well FOR them...

They are pushing people to be paranoied - check it helps there.
They want people to fear all forieners - check it helps there.
They want to distract everyone from larger issues - check it helps there.
They want to have an excuse for even more totaliatrian conrol - check it helps there.
They want to have enormous leyway in dening people access at their sole discresion - check it helps there.
They could use an excuse for a few things that went badly - check it helps there.

Frankly the Sheeple will eat up whatever they say and this will not significantly discredit them except for a few jokes.

oh and to be fair without knowing a lot more details there is no way to know if it was even remotely their fault IMO.

[Roland99]

164. Aragoncillo trying to plea bargain now >>>

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/06/politics/main917344.shtml

[Realityhack]

165. Well there was that Geff Gannon guy a while back...

First thing I thought of.

[superconnected]

166. okay, is the MSM on drugs.

Or does the white house really need attention for some reason.

we've got spies, subway threats, islam who wants to take all of america out, the bushco stopping at least 10 islam attacks on american soil, and us car theives shipping htem to iraq. My bs meter has now hit overdrive.

[regnaD kciN]

169. I was hoping it was the new Supreme Court nominee...

...just so we could refer to her as "Harriet the Spy."

;-)

[Peace Patriot]

170. NOTHING that comes out of this regime can be trusted. Not one word.

The charges could be completely bogus. The targets could be very good guys who were trying to do something to expose the murderous, thieving Bush Cartel, related or unrelated to the Philippines. How many good guys do they have to smash with hit pieces, set up with black ops and secret dossiers, falsely charge, ruin, intimidate, out the CIA wives of, or just kill, before we smarten up about this sort of "news"? Obviously, many of the posters here are pretty smart and do not take anything at face value that is emitted by the Bush junta and is promulgated by the war profiteering corporate news monopolies. Good on you all. My own little rule of thumb: Whatever they assert, think the exact opposite and you'll be close to the truth. Another little rule that is proving useful: greed is their chief motivation, always. The stringpullers--the ones in charge--are not true believer neocons or nazis. They are just looters (on a grand scale). Keep that in mind.

[Peace Patriot]

171. NOTHING that comes out of this regime can be trusted. Not one word.

The charges could be completely bogus. The targets could be very good guys who were trying to do something to expose the murderous, thieving Bush Cartel, related or unrelated to the Philippines. How many good guys do they have to smash with hit pieces, set up with black ops and secret dossiers, falsely charge, ruin, intimidate, out the CIA wives of, or just kill, before we smarten up about this sort of "news"? Obviously, many of the posters here are pretty smart and do not take anything at face value that is emitted by the Bush junta and is promulgated by the war profiteering corporate news monopolies. Good on you all. My own little rule of thumb: Whatever they assert, think the exact opposite and you'll be close to the truth. Another little rule that is proving useful: greed is their chief motivation, always. The stringpullers--the ones in charge--are not true believer neocons or nazis. They have no interest in governing. They are just looters. Keep that in mind.