WP: GOP Senators Look to Shift Spy Management From CIA (to Negroponte)

[DeepModem Mom]

GOP Senators Look to Shift Spy Management From CIA
By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, October 1, 2005; Page A09


Republicans on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence want to strip from the CIA its primary role as manager of overseas collection of human intelligence, suggesting that Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte take over that responsibility.

The CIA's Directorate of Operations, the agency's clandestine arm, which now coordinates spying overseas by all U.S. intelligence agencies, in the past "did not effectively exercise the authorities of the national HUMINT manager often focusing instead on its own structure and operations," the committee majority said in its report on the fiscal 2006 intelligence authorization bill released late Thursday.

Citing past failures in averting the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and in overstating Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, the Republican majority said U.S. spying operations "have lacked strong leadership and effective mechanism to resolve conflicts."

The Republicans, led by Sen. Pat Roberts (Kan.), the panel chairman, urged Negroponte "to directly manage and oversee the conduct of HUMINT operations across the intelligence community," saying the need is "imperative" because the Pentagon and the FBI are placing "greater emphasis" on spying.

Democrats on the committee opposed the suggestion, calling it in their section of the report a "misguided solution" and noting that the CIA has recently reached agreements with the FBI and Pentagon to "avoid confusion and ensure smooth coordination" of spying operations at home and abroad. They also noted that the DNI -- a position created by Congress last year to oversee and coordinate the government's intelligence community -- "was not established as a new bureaucracy to assume the responsibility for day-to-day intelligence operations."...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/30/AR2005093001791.html

[converted_democrat]

1. Why does the idea of this give me shivers???? n/t

[Demeter]

3. Because a bunch of stupid, crooked and ignorant old guys are

trying to make policy that is crucial to this country's survival?

[DeepModem Mom]

4. For me, it's a combination of Negroponte...

and my assumption that the cabal has been the first force in our history to take on the CIA and win, which says something about the methods they are apparently willing to use. In addition, I have no faith in the ability, or interest, of any of these people to serve and protect the people. It's very scary.

[KittyWampus]

8. You think they're winning against the CIA? Really?

IMO, the NeoCons already dead and the only reason they still are at the controls is rigor mortis set in... and their souls are still hovering over their corpses.

It's just a matter of time before the levers of Government are wrested from their cold dead hands.

[DeepModem Mom]

15. Oh, I hope so, cryingshame! nt

[rodeodance]

17. Because Negroponte is bushes guy?

[MADem]

20. Because this is the politicization of intelligence, with the imprimatur of

a GOP senate. I would not trust Negroponte to take out the trash.

Bad move, bad, bad, bad.

[acmavm]

2. Gee, anybody see any problems here? And this is sponsered by the

GOP. Why am I not surprised?

[Tesla]

5. Do we get a vote on this?

I mean, do we get to have hearings or is it a done deal, and the SS moves in???

[OKthatsIT]

26. GOP Senator is giving Negrponte what he wants

I sure this was suggested by Negroponte.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/29/politics/29intel.html

[madrchsod]

6. there was a wake several weeks ago at the cia...

they were mourning the loss of the cia`s independence to the vast bureaucracy that the neocons have set up...george bush the lesser was the "master of ceremonies"...isn`t a cia building named after him?
i`ve said this before-i never thought i`d ever side with the cia bastartds but at least they kept us from from the other sides bastards but with the neocons in charge who really knows who the real bastards are...

[hootinholler]

21. HQ in Langley is the

George HW Bush Center for Intelligence. I snicker every time I go past the sign on the GW Parkway, I should take a pic of it.

Go Figure.

-Hoot

[Mika]

7. Coming soon to your neighborhood - roaming death squads.

Negroponte & death squads: Been there, done that.

[triguy46]

9. Don't they mean they want to shift it to GOP headquarters? n/t

[Solly Mack]

10. What did people expect with Negroponte back?

Seriously? How stupid are you if you didn't know the full scope and meaning of having Negroponte around in government? The implications of just how bad it could get with Negroponte anywhere near government were self-evident.

He's bad enough in the civilian sector but placing him in government in any capacity is homicidal. The man is nothing but walking death.

He's bad news and he will never be anything but bad news.

EVER.

Under any circumstances.

And to confirm such a man as this?

That's just asking for any and all trouble that follows.

Because it's not like you didn't know what the consequences would be...

[IndianaGreen]

11. Nothing like having an American version of NKVD

Negroponte loves death squads! I wonder if we will be finding the bodies of American activists laying on ditches with their hands tied behind their backs, their bodies riddled with bullets?

That's Negroponte's record!

[TankLV]

12. Now we will see INTENSE spying focused mainly on DEMOCRATS & LIBERALS.

There will be no time "wasted" on such petty things like "terrarists" - unless they are like us demanding accountability and answers!

Now if we just ramp up the phoney bullshit "war on porn" that is SOOOOO important....!

The KGB and STASI will be eclipsed in a nanosecond.

Negroponte? THAT criminal? He should be in PRISON, not heading any federal AGENCY!

The arrogance of these CRIMINALS continue to astound.

[dkofos]

14. The ignorance

of conservatives astounds me

[dkofos]

13. I guess we haven't killed enough of our enemies

to make these thugs happy.

Watch out Hugo!!!

[0007]

25. You can bet Hugo is watching very carefully. He three moves

ahead of this crime cabal.

Tis the Pat Roberts and the Michael Brown's that we must watch.

[WhiteTara]

16. look for dead bodies to start appearing in

various places in the US. All with their hands tied behind their backs, with bullet holes in their heads.

[rodeodance]

18. sems repugs have not leaned the lesson of too much power in one

person------or that is the idea!!

[rodeodance]

19. kick

[LibertyorDeath]

22. Very bad news

"Another proposal reflected increased Pentagon interest in intelligence operations in the United States involving American citizens."


"The proposal included in the bill would give a "limited" exemption to defense intelligence personnel, allowing them to recruit sources and collect personal information on U.S. citizens clandestinely, without disclosing they worked for the government, when "significant" foreign intelligence is being sought. They would have to coordinate such collection with the FBI."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/30/AR2005093001791.html

this links in with this imo

THE PENTAGON'S NEW ARMIES OF THE NIGHT


Foreign Correspondent
INSIDE TRACK ON WORLD NEWS
by international syndicated columnist & broadcaster Eric Margolis

The Pentagon's new spy arm will be largely excluded from Congressional oversight or media examination. Its special operations teams will roam the globe, killing or kidnapping at will, torturing suspects, and bringing down governments, all under cover of `deep black' missions of which no records will be kept, and no questions asked.

Equally worrying, the Pentagon's new special ops units are headed up by notorious religious fanatic and loudmouth, Lt. Gen. William Boykin, who calls the US Army, `the house of God,' and Islamic insurgents, `agents of Satan;' and told Muslims `my God is bigger than your god, which is an idol. '

Boykin's command will now dispatch post-modern Christian crusaders to cleanse the world of Satanic Muslims and other miscreants. The Pentagon's new special forces will be able to hire local armies and hit men, as well as run ops of which CIA knows nothing. The 9/11 Commission called for improved intra-agency cooperation and data sharing - what we will now get is far less cooperation, as the Pentagon goes its own, secret way.

Equally worrisome, the Pentagon's new `black' warriors will not be supervised by a normal military chain of command or some degree of Congressional oversight, as were CIA combat teams. These irregular forces will draw into their ranks rabid ideologists, uniformed bounty hunters, and Bible Belt mutants wearing t-shirts proclaiming, `kill em'all, let God sort'em out.' These militarized thugs and video arcade Rambos are sure to run amok, commit serious crimes, and drag America's once good name ever deeper into the mud.

More http://www.bigeye.com/fc020705.htm

[williesgirl]

23. One more political appointee running an important agency -

just what we don't need. We need to get folks screaming about this in time to hopefully stop it.

[tom_paine]

24. Bad news for lovers of liberty everywhere

Negroponte is a monster, a criminal, and a murderer many times over.

Giving power to this man is like giving power to Eichmann.

[cassiepriam]

27. I think Rove should take it over.....

or maybe Delay. They seem to have talent in covert ops
and day to day ops.

[drduffy]

28. for Negroponte

what went around should be made to come around

[Jose Diablo]

29. Mr. "Death Squad" Negroponte to take-over spy duties from CIA?

But, but, Negroponte is 'domestic' operations. And the Republicans want this?

Was watching PBS last night about the 60's. You know, I was struck by how much the Democratic Convention in 68 was in turmoil, yet the 'law and order' Republican Convention, Miami I think, was so civilized. Why was the party in so much turmoil. We now know of counter intelligence operations were in operation during those times. Intelligence operations that were later barred from operating domestically. Did they ever stop?

It seems to me the Republicans have been running black-ops for a very long time against the Democrats, even assassinating the leaders of their political opponents. JFK, MLK, Robert and I am somewhat sure about Wellstone. Imagine that. Killing a sitting president and also the candidate of the opposition party for president. That fuckin' Nixon should have been hung. And then recently, Wellstone and don't forget the anthrax attacks against Dashe.

The 'terrorists' are actually right here, in the USA. Our very own intelligence operations are the terrorists, backed by the GOP. Remember, todays GOP is made-up of a lot of KKKers that bailed from the dem party and joined the republican party in the 70's. Anybody else notice from PBS how indignate Daly looked when he was confronted publicly about the Chicago police tactics at the Democratic Convention in 68. Nucking fazis.

I know many of you have republican friends, but even the Nazi's had 'innocent' supporters. It's time to take down the Nazi's and their party, the GOP.

[jsamuel]

30. OMG

[Rex]

31. They want Negroponte in charge so that no more 'outings'

of CIA agents make frontpage news. The goal is to give complete control over activites to a man that trained ultra-rightwing death squads in Latin America. The type of squads used to take out people like Chavez.

I wouldn't piss on Negroponte to much, he is a very dangerous man (like Osama).