Bill would give Bush $50B more for wars

[Eugene]

http://newsobserver.com/24hour/politics/story/2753625p-11349311c.html

Published: Sep 26, 2005
Modified: Sep 26, 2005 2:39 PM

Bill would give Bush $50B more for wars

By LIZ SIDOTI, ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate would give President Bush $50 billion
more for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as part of a $440 billion
defense spending measure a panel approved Monday.

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The House already has approved $45 billion more for the wars as part
of its $409 billion version of the bill providing money for the
Defense Department for the budget year that begins Oct. 1.

Both the Senate and House versions provide for a 3.1 percent pay raise
for the military, but the bills differ in other areas. The conflicts
must be sorted out before Congress sends the final bill to the
president for his signature.

Overall, Congress already has given the president about $350 billion
for combat and reconstruction in Iraq and Afghanistan and fighting
terrorism worldwide since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, according to
the Congressional Research Service, which writes reports for
lawmakers. That total includes $82 billion that lawmakers approved
in May.

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[rodeodance]

1. another 50 billion for killing!

[CountAllVotes]

2. gee shock!

and Katrina is *only* going to cost $100 billion now - surplus money available just in the nick of time.

One NO vote here for $50 billion to kill how many thousands more?

HOW MANY GOD DAMNIT! HOW MANY MUST DIE IN THIS ILLEGAL WAR!

:kick:

[Stevereno]

3. Unbelievable!

How are we going to pay for all this? This a senseless war and people are dying. If we continue this we are heading ourselves Broke country for generations to come. This must stop!

[Sugar Smack]

4. Welcome to DU, Stevereno!

How low can he go, I wonder? What's beneath contempt? Whatever it is, that's what I feel for Bush. First off, the NOLA crisis is far, far from over, it's only going to get worse, and everyone knows it. How the House can approve such a thing is beyond my imagination.

[redqueen]

6. Welcome to DU.

How will we pay? My guess is they'll start ending the New Deal programs conservatives have been so eager to kill since their inception. The war on terra is more important, you see.

[54anickel]

5. I have a dumb question - suffering a brain fart. What was it that

pushed the DoD budget until after the recess? I remember they took up something else over it, it was something stoooopid, but I can't remember what the heck it was....

Thanks

[Eugene]

7. Gun liability?

From The Hill:

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Business/092005_defense.html

The defense bill was pulled after a veto threat over torture.
Gun liability legislation took its place.

[54anickel]

13. That was the one! Thanks!!!!

[davidinalameda]

8. Bill would give Bush $50B more for wars

http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/politics/story/2753625p-11349311c.html

The Senate would give President Bush $50 billion more for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as part of a $440 billion defense spending measure a panel approved Monday.
Reflecting a post-Hurricane Katrina debate about the role of the military in domestic affairs, the bill also will require that a report be provided on how National Guard units in neighboring states can be used to assist those affected by natural disasters.

Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska, the chairman of the defense appropriations subcommittee, said lawmakers and staff members were still working on the language.


wonder how much of that $50B could be used to help rebuild New Orleans and the other areas affected

[DemoTex]

9. Criminal enablers .. that's all the Congress is anymore.

[sarcasmo]

10. More wars, more oil, less school.

[gulfcoastliberal]

11. Maybe the dems will filibuster this?

Naw, that would require backbone and I'm sure they're saving the filibuster for "something" else. Like when they nominate Judge Brown to SCOTUS, - yeah, that's when they'll filibuster! :sarcasm:

[defiant1]

12. That's just great....

:puke:

[VegasWolf]

14. Who the Hell would vote YES on a bill like this?? They should be FIRED!!nt

[goforit]

15. And my friends if Congress gives it to him THEY ARE LIABLE!!!!!

[Megahurtz]

16. Oh Just Great. More Fuel for his Fire. n/t

[sabra]

17. U.S. Senate panel clears $50 billion for Iraq war

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26284266.htm

U.S. Senate panel clears $50 billion for Iraq war

WASHINGTON, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Pushing to get money to the Pentagon for the Iraq war, a U.S. Senate subcommittee on Monday approved a $440.2 billion defense spending bill with a $50 billion emergency fund to finance the war into next year.

The fiscal 2006 bill from the Senate Appropriations defense subcommittee cuts $7 billion from President George W. Bush's request and is nearly $1 billion below current levels, excluding the emergency funds spent on Iraq and Afghan wars. Ted Stevens, chairman of the subcommittee, said a range of programs were trimmed to meet Congress' budget limits.

"It's an unhappy year," said Stevens, a Republican from Alaska. "I think there's a great deal that has to be done to bring our military into the posture it needs for the future and it's hard to do when things like (hurricanes) Katrina and Rita are on the scene."

Stevens said he also intends to use the defense spending bill to lay the groundwork for a system to activate the National Guard for major disasters in the wake of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

[elvisbear]

18. I hope Stevens' plan doesn't include building any bridges.

"Stevens said he also intends to use the defense spending bill to lay the groundwork for a system to activate the National Guard for major disasters in the wake of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita."

[chelsea0011]

19. Sh%t. I was hoping for a blank check for life.

Killing and murder comes with a price.

[renate]

20. Bush is like a 3-year-old in a toy store

"I want that... and that... and that... and that..." with no concept that you can't just take what you want without paying for it. "It's sitting right there, Mommy, why can't I have it? I want a war, can I have $50 billion?"

[wakeme2008]

21. As I remember

Clinton gave them more than 3.1 percent raise. And the cost of living is going up with the new Bush Gas prices.

[dusty64]

22. I wonder how much

down the rat hole for death and destruction before our "opposition" finally says enough is enough? One trillion, three trillion?

[HockeyMom]

23. Katrina set back Bush's plans for IRAN invasion

MAJORITY of the public thinks that federal funds should go to relief efforts here in the USA, not for IRAQ. Imagine what the reaction would be to an Iran attack now?????

[IndianaGreen]

24. Congress kept feeding the war machine until the bitter end of Vietnam

The 2-party political system is incapable of reversing course in Iraq, just as it was in Vietnam.

[Occulus]

25. How much public education would $50 billion pay for?

How about dental care, or medical care?

How about all three?

And... why is it again teachers don't make $80-$100K per year? Police? Firefighters?

Why don't we overfund what we know is useful, and necessary? Why do we instead overfund things that only kill?

[area51]

37. Exactly.

And we can't have universal healthcare in this third-world country b/c what, it's "too expensive"? But we can piss away billions of $$ on an insane, unjustified, illegal war. Absolute insanity. Exactly the opposite to fiscal responsibility (and nazis claim fiscal resp.), whereas funding universal healthcare (for instance) would be fiscally responsible.

[Maggie_May]

26. Kiss your social security bye bye

[Rex]

27. Why put a cap on it? Just give Boosh a blank check!

Instead of bleeding us slowly, why not do the human thing you fucking Repukes? Let Congress and Boosh go crazy on spending, no limit! Get it over with already.

[all.of.me]

28. monopoly money

i feel like he is just PLAYING! it's like it's all a game to him. someone posted some great photos the other day, one of which was gwb in the sandbox with his army toys. THAT feels like the reality to me. he has no sense, he just wants to play.

[LynnTheDem]

29. $1.7 billion. The amount bush said this war would cost us.

bush was dead wrong, as always.

Americans who support bush; stupidest MFers on the planet.

[0007]

30. Time to clean house! These spineless Dems are beyond hope.

[Demeter]

31. Not One Penny More!

If he doesn't have the brains to call off the adventure, then let's close the public purse.

[Massacure]

32. That won't be enough money.

We are currently spending $200 million a day in Iraq. If they budget $50 billion for Iraq this year, they will only end up paying $135 million per day.

Either expect congress to give the military more money, or the insurgency in Iraq to flare up.

[norml]

33. Bill would give Bush $50B more for wars

Posted on Mon, Sep. 26, 2005


Bill would give Bush $50B more for wars

LIZ SIDOTI

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - The Senate would give President Bush $50 billion more for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as part of a $440 billion defense spending measure a panel approved Monday.

Reflecting a post-Hurricane Katrina debate about the role of the military in domestic affairs, the bill also will require that the National Guard provide a report on how Guard units in neighboring states can be used to assist those affected by natural disasters.

Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, the chairman of the defense appropriations subcommittee, said lawmakers and staff members were still working on the language, which will be added when the full Appropriations Committee takes up the measure.

"What we are looking at is when the National Guard should be triggered to come into a state to assist," Stevens said. "We aren't going to mandate it. We are going to ask for a report as to how it should be done and figure out if it is possible to develop a plan for that."

The House already has approved $45 billion more for the wars as part of its $409 billion version of the bill providing money for the Defense Department for the budget year that begins Oct. 1.


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http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/politics/12748549.htm

[Hegemony Cricket]

34. Ted Stevens in "How to say nothing with 27 words"

"We are going to ask for a report as to how it should be done and figure out if it is possible to develop a plan for that."

So, they're going to have a meeting to request a written series of meetings about how one would go about developing a plan...hopefully coming to the conclusion that a plan could indeed be developed.

Wow.

[electron_blue]

35. and now he's trying to convince us to let the military handle

natural disasters at home.

and we let him. we do. when are we going to be rid of this guy?

[FloridaPat]

36. And they have no idea where the money is going or who's stealing

it or how well the contractors are doing. But we have to keep spending. Why are these people not being impeached by the citizens of this country?

[Hav]

38. oh well..

I actually read "Bill would give Bush $50B for more wars".
:eyes:

[struggle4progress]

39. kick

[Blaq Dem]

40. What a waste! n/t