If Allowed to Run, Colombia’s Uribe Would Win

[arcos]

If Allowed to Run, Colombia’s Uribe Would Win

(Angus Reid Global Scan) – Álvaro Uribe maintains a large advantage in his bid to earn a new term as Colombia’s head of state, according to a poll by YanHaas released by RCN Television. 69.9 per cent of respondents would support the current president in next year’s election.

In November 2004, the Colombian House of Representatives voted 113-16 to pass legislation that would allow presidential re-election in the South American country. The Constitutional Court must review the proposal before it comes into effect. A ruling is expected later this year.

Organization of American States (OAS) ambassador Horacio Serpa is a distant second with 5.9 per cent, followed by former Bogota mayors Antanas Mockus with 5.8 per cent, and Enrique Peñalosa with 2.1 per cent. Support is lower for former president César Gaviria Trujillo, senator Antonio Navarro Wolff of the Democratic Independent Pole (PDI), Colombia’s ambassador to Spain Noemí Sanín and senator Carlos Gaviria Díaz of the Social and Political Front (FSP).

Uribe took office in August 2002, after winning the presidential election as a semi-independent candidate under the Colombia First (PC) banner with 53.1 per cent of all cast ballots. The head of state—who had been a member of the Colombian Liberal Party (PLC)—has remained popular despite failing in his bid to achieve constitutional changes through a referendum in 2003.

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http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/9024

[lcordero2]

1. Let me see

What I know about Uribe I don't like.
He called human rights activists terrorists.
Things are so bad in Colombia that a person has to walk around with a gun.
Colombia is so bad that even the porn industry has stopped filming there because of crime.

http://www.minesandcommunities.org/Country/colombia1.htm

[arcos]

2. Yes, Uribe is far to the right...

He was elected as a "strong leader" who could defeat the guerrillas... and although he hasn't done that, he's still very popular.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[RagingInMiami]

3. Colombia is safer now than it used to be

I have a lot of family there.

[San Cocho]

4. yes it is, I have family there too.

I had to join after seeing this thread. Uribe has made great strides in Colombia. Some of the auto-defense forces have disbanded, kidnappings are way down, and the economy is improving. And street violence is no worse than say Caracas.

You don't need to carry a gun, in fact if you did you would likely be shot.

Finally, a leader of Colombia with cojones. Unfortunately the FARC continues their 40 year war against the people of Colombia.

[jarab]

6. Welcome, San Cocho!

...O...

[San Cocho]

7. thank you jarab

Colombia is a great place. Too bad the civil war persists but I believe its more about control of the drug trade than political idealology. ON the other hand it is quite inexpensive to travel there.

and someone asked about how people feel about Uribe, well as the first post states, he would win if he is allowed to run again.

[RagingInMiami]

9. I'm glad you joined

My family lives in Bogota. I was there visiting them last December. Where does your family live?

[San Cocho]

10. Step mother is from Cartagena

I am a "gringo" but lived in latin america for 10 years. my father married a coste~na.

frankly, I'd take Uribe over Chavez any day.

[RagingInMiami]

11. I am a half-gringo

Mom was born in Bogota, dad born in Virginia, I was born in Miami -- a half-gringo city.

Without a doubt, Uribe has had much tougher challenges than Chavez, but I do respect Chavez because he is looking out for the poor people.

The problem with those Latin American countries (and what we're seeing more and more in this country) is that they neglect and repress the poor. But when the poor makes a stand, then the upper class acts all surprised and offended.

I live down here with thousands of Cuban exiles who never stop bitching about Castro. And I don't support Castro, but if the Batista regime had not been so repressive back in the 1950s, Castro would never have succeeeded.

[San Cocho]

12. yep definitely

Uribe has many challenges and seems on the right track.

I am suspicious of Chavez and his rhetoric which I believe is for political reasons.

Uribe hasn't done the drastic heavy handed maneuvering and power grab that Chavez has even after he lost his 14-point referendum. I respect him for staying within the bounds of the law.

Uribe has chosen to ally with the USA rather than with Castro and Chavez. I believe this is a shrewd and wise position on his part.

[Zynx]

5. That was my impression too.

I'm curious, how does your family feel about Uribe and the situation down there?

[RagingInMiami]

8. They support him

Because the last few presidents have been so blatantly in the pockets of the narcotrafficantes.

But the situation is still far from perfect. The civil war has displaced thousands from Colombia's rural countryside, forcing them into the cities where they live on the streets.

But just over ten years ago, the situation was much worse because the drug cartels were waging war with the government and bombs were going off at any given time in any given place.

[San Cocho]

13. yep, an accurate analysis

n/t

[Judi Lynn]

14. Background on Uribe for DU'ers who haven't read much about him:

May 24, 2004

President Uribe’s Hidden Past

by Tom Feiling

Colombia’s President Alvaro Uribe is, by his own admission, a man of the right. Unlike most recent Colombian presidents, Uribe is from the land-owning class. He inherited huge swathes of cattle ranching land from his father Alberto Uribe, who was subject to an extradition warrant to face drug trafficking charges in the United States until he was killed in 1983, allegedly by leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) guerrillas. Alvaro Uribe grew up with the children of Fabio Ochoa, three of who became leading players in Pablo Escobar’s Medellín cocaine cartel.

President Uribe’s credentials are impeccable. He was educated at Harvard and Oxford, is as sharp as a tack, and a very able bureaucrat. At the tender age of 26 he was elected mayor of Medellín, the second-largest city of Colombia. The city’s elite in the 1980s was rich, corrupt and nepotistic, and they loved the young Uribe. But the new mayor was removed from office after only three months by a central government embarrassed by his public ties to the drug mafia. Uribe was then made Director of Civil Aviation, where he used his mandate to issue pilots’ licenses to Pablo Escobar’s fleet of light aircraft, which routinely flew cocaine to the United States.

In 1995, Uribe became governor of the Antioquia department, of which Medellín is the capital. The region became the testing ground for the institutionalization of paramilitary forces that he has now made a key plank of his presidency. Government-sponsored peasant associations called Convivir’s were “special private security and vigilance services, designed to group the civilian population alongside the Armed Forces.”

Security forces and paramilitary groups enjoyed immunity from prosecution under Governor Uribe, and they used this immunity to launch a campaign of terror in Antioquia. Thousands of people were murdered, “disappeared,” detained and driven out of the region. In the town of San Jose de Apartadó for example, three of the Convivir leaders were well-known paramilitaries and had been trained by the Colombian Army’s 17th Brigade. In 1998, representatives of more than 200 Convivir associations announced that they would unite with the paramilitary organization, the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC), under its murderous leader Carlos Castaño.
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http://www.colombiajournal.org/colombia185.htm

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Colombia and Human Rights
Nina Englander

"We will not raise our children for war," is the oft-repeated statement of the Popular Women's Organization (OFP), a group in Barrancabermeja, Colombia, that works with displaced communities to defend human rights. Yet an outspoken commitment to protect one's children can be enough to become a target of Colombia's violent political war.

On October 16, Esperanza Amaris Miranda, a leading member of the OFP, was abducted from her home in Barrancabermeja and murdered. In the past, Miranda had denounced paramilitary threats before the federal prosecutor. According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Right's office, she was killed by three members of the paramilitary group Bloque Central Bolívar, an organization with documented ties to the Colombian military.

Murder and abduction of social activists in Colombia is not uncommon. In the town of Barrancabermeja alone, there have been ninety-four assassinations and fifty-six kidnappings this year. Throughout the country, there were 6,978 murders, disappearances or combat deaths as a result of political violence between July 1, 2002 and June 30, 2003. The Colombian Trade Union Congress estimates that in 2002, 172 trade unionists were killed, 164 received death threats and 132 were arbitrarily detained by authorities. Paramilitary groups, with the support of the Colombian armed forces, carried out many of these attacks.

Despite the extremely dangerous climate for social activism, the Colombian government continues to blatantly disregard human rights. Recent inflammatory statements by President Alvaro Uribe drive this point home. Speaking on September 8 before leaders of the armed forces at the inauguration of the new head of the airforce, Uribe condemned human rights defenders as terrorist sympathizers and cowards. He derided unspecified groups for supporting terrorism "under the pretext of defending human rights," and for hiding "their political ideas behind human rights." He called human rights workers "spokespeople" for terrorists, and he challenged them to "take off their masks."
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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20031124/englander

[San Cocho]

15. background for DU'ers who have never been to Colombia

economy up.

crime down.

is a president with the cojones to go after both the AUC AND the FARC.

[Judi Lynn]

16. Many DU'ers are fully aware Uribe has been interested in immunity

for bloodthirsty paramilitaries, and won't be fooled.

July 1, 2005

Colombia's Disappeared
Their Names, At Least
By JUSTICIA Y PAZ


Colombian President Alvaro Uribe Vélez opened negotiations with the country's right-wing paramilitaries almost as soon as he took office in August 2002. The paramilitaries -- currently grouped in a national federation called the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC) -- have been responsible for the majority of murders and forced displacements of civilians in Colombia's tragic armed conflict for many years. Over 3 million Colombians have been uprooted from their homes and communities -- "displaced" -- since 1985, and tens of thousands more have been murdered. The paramilitaries' signature terror methods include slow torture, dismemberment, and the use of chainsaws. When guerrilla groups participated in the formation of new political parties in the 1980s as part of an attempt to resolve the decades-old war between the government and guerrillas, paramilitaries exterminated over 3,000 members of these new parties.

In a proposal announced in June called the "Justice and Peace" law, Uribe seeks to offer the paramilitaries immunity from any serious punitive consequences for their crimes. Under Uribe's proposal, they will not have to turn over the land and wealth they have acquired to victims (or even the government); tell the truth about their crimes to victims, survivors, or the society; or serve more than a few years in jail.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/cryan07012005.html

[San Cocho]

17. so Judy, why doesn't the FARC enter into

negotiations with the government since it is since the disarmament terms are such a sweetheart deal?

Yep, 40 years of civil war with hundreds of thousands of dead kind of puts you in a tough situation.

Even the US is criticizing the deal but what is the alternative??

[Judi Lynn]

19. I've not seen anything written concerning Uribe's "sweetheart" offers

to non-paramitary groups. The only ones I've seen discussed in the international press concern the vicious killer paramilitaries discussed in the articles I linked above.



Masters of the Colombian chainsaw massacres.

[San Cocho]

21. Judy the FARC will not even come to the table

and have just recently killed many soldiers AND civilians. There is more than one side to this conflict. and any solutions will not be particularly pleasing to all sides especially the arm chair quarterbacks.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/08/25/columbia.killings.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

[Judi Lynn]

23. The paramilitaries bear the notorious history of torture, terrorism

Colombia's Paramilitaries in Historical Perspectives:

Closing the Circle of Violence

Cecilia Zárate-Laun

ON JULY 16, 2001 Carlos Arturo Marulanda-Ramirez, former Colombian Ambassador to the European Union, was detained by INTERPOL in Madrid, under international orders from the Colombian Prosecutor General. He accused Marulanda of crimes against humanity, among them organizing paramilitary groups to torture, assassinate and displace peasants.

Ariel Toscano, a 31-year-old peasant, a former leader of ANUC (National Association of Peasants) living in exile, declared his willingness to testify against Marulanda since four of his brothers were killed by paramilitaries working under his orders. Toscano told the newspaper, El Espectador, on July 19 "It is fitting to accuse him of crimes against mankind, because he followed the steps of his father, Carlos Arturo Marulanda-Grillo, who during the La Violencia period assassinated and displaced many peasants in order to take their land."

Paramilitarism has a long history in Colombia. In order to understand this phenomenon one must first understand that Colombia is an exclusionary society—it excludes the majority of its inhabitants from their economic, social, political, cultural and human rights. This exclusion occurs in a country of great natural wealth yet one of sharp inequality, where the wealthiest 10% hold eighty times the value of the poorest 10%. Colombia also defines itself as the oldest democracy in Latin America.
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http://www.solidarity-us.org/atc/95Zarate.html

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Plan Colombia Aid and the Paramilitaries
By Sean Donahue,
Posted on Fri May 6th, 2005 at 04:03:04 PM EST
In January of 2001, in a meeting at the U.S. Embassy in Bogotá, one of the top aides to then-U.S. Ambassador Anne Patterson ridiculed the idea that any of the weapons or equipment given to the Colombian military as part of Plan Colombia could wind up in the hands of the right wing paramilitaries of the AUC.
Events this week reveal the deceitfulness or naïveté of her comments, and reflect a long-standing pattern of U.S. military collaboration with Colombian paramilitaries going back to the 1960’s.


As Dan Feder reported in these pages today, and The New York Times reported yesterday, earlier this week, Colombian authorities arrested Allan Tanquary and Jesus Hernandez, with either 32,000 or 40,000 rounds of ammunition. According to Juan Forero of the Times:

“Authorities said the two had been in contact with a former Colombian Police Sgt. Will Gabriel Aguilar, who has been linked to paramilitary groups. Aguilar, another retired policeman and two other Colombians were also arrested, police said. The ammunition had been sent to Colombia by the United States under its Plan Colombia aid program.”

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2005/5/6/1636/09285

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Doing the US's Doing the US's Dirty Work
The Colombian Paramilitaries and Israel

By Jeremy Bigwood
Special to the Narco News Bulletin
April 8, 2003

"I copied the concept of paramilitary forces from the Israelis."
-Carlos Castaño, Mi Confesión, 2002

According to his recently published autobiography, Carlos Castaño was only 18 years old when he arrived in Israel in 1983 to take a year-long course called "562." Castaño, a Colombian, had come to the Holy Land as a pilgrim of sorts, but not to find peace. Course 562 was about war, and how to wage it, and it was something Carlos Castaño would eventually excel at, becoming the most adept and ruthless paramilitary leader in Latin America’s history
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The Castaño brothers first offered their services as scouts for the Colombian Army’s Bombona Battalion - fingering FARC sympathizers, providing intelligence and even participating in military operations. But Fidel - some 14 years older than Carlos - concluded that by merely working for the army, they were going to get nowhere. One of the battalion’s majors introduced them to a local paramilitary death squad called "Caruso," with whom they started a killing spree. When local police started to investigate them, they found it necessary to operate even more clandestinely. Unlike in many other third-world countries under the U.S.’s shadow, Colombia’s police and judiciary have sometimes played a role independent from the Army.

Later, according to press reports, Fidel started his own paramilitary death squad called "Los Tangueros," named after his ranch, "Las Tangas." Los Tangueros was responsible for more than 150 murders during the late 1980s and early 1990s. In his book, Castaño talks openly about murders he has committed or ordered during this period, making his habit of killing what he calls "guerrillas in towns" routine. In one massacre alone, the Tangueros captured dozens of campesinos from a neighboring town. Back at the ranch, "they tortured them all night with crude instruments before shooting some and burying others alive." Los Tangueros, along with other death squads dispersed throughout the country, would evolve into the present 9,000-strong paramilitary force in Colombia, which is now killing an average of up to thirteen civilians per day.
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http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/1598372.php



Carlos Castaño

[San Cocho]

24. and the FARC doesn't??

the AUC were established to counter the FARC in the first place.

So do you disagree with Uribe's efforts to disarm both the paramilitaries and the FARC or do you think only the AUC should be disarmed and the FARC be permitted to keep killing innocent people?

[Judi Lynn]

27. I've never seen the numbers weigh in your paramilitaries' favor.

Paramilitaries, Drug Trafficking
and U.S. Policy in Colombia
by Samia Montalvo
Dollars and Sense magazine, July / August 2000

At 32 years old, Carlos Castano leads Colombia's largest paramilitary force, the Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia (AUC), or United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia. The AUC has earned the nickname "The Head Cutters" because its victims are usually tortured, mutilated, and then decapitated. Waging a relentless war against Colombia's leftist guerrillas -the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and the National Liberation Army (ELN)-the paramilitaries both launch attacks on guerrilla-held territory and target those they suspect of being guerrilla "sympathizers" (including labor-union leaders, peasants, peace advocates, and human-rights workers).

According to the U.S. State Department, there were 399 massacres in 1999 (up from 239 in 1998), 80% of which were carried out by the paramilitaries. The Colombian Armed Forces, meanwhile, often turn a blind eye to atrocities committed by the paramilitaries-their allies in the counterinsurgency war.
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http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/South_America/Paramilitaries_Colombia.html

[San Cocho]

29. I do not support the AUC, nor would I say you support FARC

because you fail to acknowledge them as the leading cause of Colombia's destabilization.

I support peace in Colombia as you should.

Both sides have committed their share of atrocities and Colombia has a president who is trying to achieve peace. however, it is a fact that the FARC has no intention of laying down their arms and is intent on terrorizing the Colombian people.

[Judi Lynn]

31. According to almost everything I've heard, the paramilitaries

DO bear the lion's share of the responsibility for massacres and terrorism.

I've never seen any indication Uribe has any intention of seeking a lasting peace whatsoever, rather than pursuing the protection of the very wealthy at the extreme expense of the deeply impoverished and abused majority of the citizens.

[San Cocho]

32. well, you should do some more research then

type in FARC Colombia in your search engine.

what indication of a lasting peace would you require other than disarming the paramilitaries and attacking the FARC. Certainly not Uribe's predecessor Pastrana who gave a signficant portion of the country over to the FARC.

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2004/06/17/story294526714.asp

http://www.hrw.org/reports98/colombia/Colom989-05.htm

[Flanker]

33. Uribe is not the answer however

What he proposes is to give judicial cover for the AUC, even though it may appear that he is winning the internal conflict it is just an illusion since the FARC have changed strategy and are holding on to territory rather than just conceding it. He will not win the conflict even if he just removes the AUC from the picture, and maintains the status quo.

As for why the FARCs do not lay down their arms? simple leaders always look out for themselves, in order to reach peace you have to secure a post-conflict peace with them, even though Latin America is moving to the left Colombia is still a right wing country, they have no political future if they lay down arms, contrast that with the paramilitaries.

All groups are human right offenders but the AUC is the worst of the bunch.

[Flanker]

20. I don't know about alternative

But in hindsight the Colombian goverment should not have supported los pepes or later AUC, they are easier to disband than by just offering inmunity considering they are ex-military.

Also lobbying the US govemerment into legalizing narcotics would end the conflict in days.

I am Venezuelan and to say that both our countries have a rivalry would be an understatement. But the the problems will not be solved by who is allied to whom.

[arcos]

28. Bienvenido a DU!

:hi:

[Flanker]

34. Thanks

[RagingInMiami]

26. Does it really matter if "many DUers ... won't be fooled"?

It's easy to sit on your keyboard in the good ol' USA and criticize something that is happening in a country I'm sure you have never visited.

I'm not going to try and justify what the right-wing paramilitary groups have done down there, but they evolved in response to the terror and violence and kidnappings of the FARC.

What is happening in Colombia is two groups at the extreme opposites of the political spectrum, funding their troops with billions of dollars in cocaine money.

[San Cocho]

30. exactly raging!!

n/t

[Judi Lynn]

18. More on Uribe's war on human rights:

September 20, 2003

Uribe's Desperate Squeals
When Terrorists Talk of Human Rights
By JUSTIN PODUR

......Why was Uribe annoyed enough at human rights organizations to try to demonize them as 'terrorists'? The human rights organizations had been very busy in the weeks leading up to Uribe's speech, in no small part due to the activities of Uribe's government and army. A small sample:

One noted human rights organization, CREDHOS (Corporacion Regional para la Defensa de los Derechos Humanos) reported that the paramilitaries disappeared 6 men and a woman in Barrancabermeja. Like Uribe, the paramilitaries in that city demonized and threatened 15 others, accusing them of being guerrillas. Colombia's food and beverages union, SINALTRAINAL, reported an attempt on the life of its vice president on August 22, 2003 by a motorcycle gunman. Youth organizations reported a paramilitary massacre of five youths in Cundinamarca. Other human rights organizations reported two murders that occurred on August 1 (during skirmishes between the army, paramilitaries, and guerrillas), another on August 9 in El Castillo county (by the Army), two more, one on August 11 and another on the 12 in Villavivencio (by the paramilitaries). The United Nations reported on August 8 that 118 indigenous had been murdered in Colombia so far in 2003. Unions reported that 50 unionists were killed in the same period. The Colombian Commission of Jurists reported some 7,000 political assassinations in the past year. They criticized the government's agrarian policy, its authoritarianism, and its regressive social policies.

In Cali, the paramilitaries threatened the Social and Political Front, a group consisting of unions, social organizations, and human rights groups, calling for a war against them.

Uribe's government is in peace negotiations with these paramilitaries. And so, while trying to bring the paramilitaries back to legality and respectability, the government has been doing its best to make human rights work not only life-threatening, but illegal as well. In other words Uribe has been making good on the threat implicit in his speech.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/podur09202003.html

[Judi Lynn]

22. Colombia: Horrific Torture and Murder of Unionist

Colombia: Horrific Torture and Murder of Unionist
Tuesday, 20 September 2005, 9:34 am
Press Release: International Confederation Of Free Trade Unions

Colombia: ICFTU Protests Horrific Torture and Murder of Union Leader
Brussels, 19 September 2005 (ICFTU OnLine): In a letter (to Colombian President Álvaro Uribe Vélez, the ICFTU has condemned the vicious torture and murder of Luciano Enrique Romero Molina, a leader of the foodworkers' union SINALTRAINAL. Molina was found dead on 11 September, bound hand and foot, having been curelly tortured. His body, which showed signs of at least 47 blows, was found in Las Palmas in the La Nevada district, an area controlled by paramilitaries.

An employee of CICOLAC (NESTLÉ), Molina was dismissed on 22 October 2002 following a labour dispute. Following a series of death threats, the Colombian government was requested to include him in a Protection Programme for union leaders and human rights activists, but the only response from the government was to provide him with two mobile telephones.

The ICFTu is calling on the Colombian President to carry out a full investigation into his murder, and to ensure that those responsible are subjected to the full force of the law. In conclusion, the ICFTU criticises the President's policy of "democratic security", which in effect legalises paramilitary activity, and has "so far served only to increase the number of murdered trade unionists and labour activists".
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0509/S00341.htm

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The U.S. Republican-supported right-wing "leaders" in Latin America and the Caribbean have always been hell on union workers, union leaders, teachers, clergy, human rights workers. Quite the heritage.

[Judi Lynn]

25. Useful info. on Uribe's previous "election:"

The first question is, how did Uribe win in 2002. I was re-reading Erich Fromm's 'Fear of Liberty' the other day. That is about how Hitler came to power in Germany. It is an explanation in terms of social psychology. And perhaps some of that is at work here, too. But if you look at the period March-May 2002, before the elections: I was in Meta, with the displaced, people of the Puerto Alvira, Mapiripan. I asked, how was it possible that people who had lost so much because of the paramiltiaries would vote for a president who promised more of the same? They gave testimony of a great deal of fraud. There were paramilitaries in the voting booths. These destroyed ballots. The mayor came to the voting booth with a list of social services recipients at the end of the day. They compared their list with the voters list, to see who had abstained. Then they voted for them. This was actually denounced to the Ombudsman. Nothing happened. In Barrancabermeja, the paramilitaries promised a massacre if Uribe didn't win. I know of other cases, people who didn't denounce publicly, out of fear. Those who voted, voted under tremendous pressure.

After the parliamentary elections in March 2002, Mancuso declared victory publicly. He said that paramilitaries controlled 33% of the seats in the legislature. When journalists asked the Minister of the Interior if this were really the case, he confirmed it. So we have a paramilitary legislature to go with our paramilitary president.

The referendum and following elections can be viewed as a repudiation of this, but it is fragile. This kind of dissent can be expressed in the cities. At the national level, the Liberal party played an important role in pushing for abstention. But the fragility has two parts: fear and paramilitary terror, especially in the rural areas, on the one hand, and the absence of any independent media and the constant bombardment by the media, on the other.
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http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?