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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:42 PM
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NYT: As White House Anxiety Grows, Bush Tries to Quell Political Crisis
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:42 PM by RamboLiberal
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/national/nationalspecial/04bush.html?ei=5094&en=23cce9f23aa42f66&hp=&ex=1125806400&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

Faced with one of the worst political crises of his presidency, President Bush abruptly overhauled his September schedule on Saturday as the White House scrambled to gain control of a situation that Republicans said threatened to undermine Mr. Bush's second-term agenda and the party's long-term ambitions.

In a sign of the mounting anxiety at the White House, Mr. Bush made a rare Saturday appearance in the Rose Garden before live television cameras to announce he was dispatching additional active-duty troops to the Gulf region. He struck a more somber tone than he had at times on Friday during a daylong tour of the disaster region, when he had joked at the airport in New Orleans about the fun he had had in his younger days in Houston. His demeanor on Saturday was similar to that of his most somber speeches after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

"The magnitude of responding to a crisis over a disaster area that is larger than the size of Great Britain has created tremendous problems that have strained state and local capabilities," said Mr. Bush, slightly exaggerating the stricken land area. "The result is that many of our citizens simply are not getting the help they need, especially in New Orleans. And that is unacceptable."

The president was flanked by his high military and emergency command: Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

As Mr. Bush spoke, Vice President Dick Cheney and Karl Rove, the president's senior political adviser, listened on the sidelines, as did Dan Bartlett, the counselor to the president and Mr. Bush's overseer of communications strategy. Their presence underscored how seriously the White House is reacting to the political crisis it faces.

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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:44 PM
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1. they maybe outta do something about the flooding and disease crises
before they worry too much about their political crisis.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:46 PM
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4. Yeah. Then they better figure out how they are going to export things.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:46 PM by bemildred
And what they are going to do about the loss of energy production. Can't run the war machine without fuel, and enraged soccer moms in SUVs are pretty dangerous too.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:10 PM
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44. The fact that only worry about politcs...
is the reason why there is always a political crisis with them.

If they would sometimes worry about the welfare and well being of the american public (talking bout every constituency), they would never have a political crisis.

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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:20 PM
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63. Right. If they did their job instead of spinning the job ...
they might have more respect from the people.

They have to give respect to get respect and that isn't happening either. Bush only shows respect to those he wants something from. That doesn't mean he respects them. It is an act. He is the best acting president since Ray-Gun.

I am glad he isn't getting a pass on this one. He is certainly an evil, evil man.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:25 AM
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78. Seems so obvious, doesn't it? Us wage slaves and cube rats figured that
one out a LONG time ago.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:03 AM
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87. "If they would sometimes worry about the welfare and well being ...
of the american public" ...

Tut tut. That won't do, now, will it? Afterall, there are taxes on the wealthy to be slashed and golf balls to be hit. Where are your priorities?

:eyes:
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:11 AM
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90. But then
they would not be who they are.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:44 PM
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2. Too late
It's obvious by now that these people cared not at all about the Gulf Coast victims. Otherwise, there would have been funding for levees, National Guard would have been in place, evacuations would have included everyone, not just the have, ah you all know the details. Too little, too late.
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bee Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:47 PM
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6. exactly.
I dont think even THEY can spin their way our of this one. Excuses, at this point, just make them look more and more incompetent & dilusional.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:45 PM
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3. I am amazed he could find 7000 active service troops.
Since he refuses to pull troops out of Iraq.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:12 PM
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45. iraq is staffed with mostly reservists - active duty are here in the
states
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:46 PM
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5. Now they start to feel something... interesting. Only when it is their
own asses on the line.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:50 PM
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7. This is all political CYA. It always is with this cabal.
Be advised Bush, you're done.

--sticking with fork--

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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:51 PM
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8. Joking at the NO airport Friday?
He struck a more somber tone than he had at times on Friday during a daylong tour of the disaster region, when he had joked at the airport in New Orleans about the fun he had had in his younger days in Houston.

Unbelieveable! After witnessing firsthand the death and destruction following the nation's worst natural disaster, he's making JOKES???

:nuke:
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:16 PM
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24. Yes, I heard the fool. Only what I heard was a bit different than
what the article states. I thought he said that NO would be rebuilt because it was such a wonderful city that people go to have fun and that he had had a bit too much fun there himself. Meaning of course that he was drunk on his ass.

He's such a damn jerk.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:56 PM
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39. Not only that the airport was being used as a staging area for evac of
folks in critical medical need. One TV reporter stayed there overnight and woke up with two dead bodies next to him. This is what was going on off camera at the same airport that Bush spoke from.
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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:23 AM
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92. I heard that he says
sometimes i made too long vacations, with showing his wicked smirk...

F****** unbelievable
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Mike_The_Computer Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:52 PM
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9. Corrupt. Egomaniacal. Phony.
How did this asshole and his power-hungry friends fool so many people, for so long? How can anyone, ANYONE, defend anything this asshole says or does?
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:55 PM
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12. "fool so many people, for so long"?
Begs the question: Have We The People learned anything now that the Mask is OFF!

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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:54 AM
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84. How many of these sheeple still believe this Emperor has clothes? n/t
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:59 PM
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17. Money Money Money Money Money Money Money...
Hey man... it's all about the FUCKING MONEY!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:52 PM
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108. it boggles my mind Mike
that people actually can still defend this piece of garbage, so devoic of any shred of decency
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:53 PM
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10. Dumbass better stop worrying about his fucking image
and start planning for the next hurricane to hit the US this season and how refinery bottlenecks are going affect heating oil supplies this winter.






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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:42 PM
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61. Yep - we are only at the beginning of the hurrican season...
But this lot will only be anticipating profits for their cronies from all the rebuild contracts.
Rubbing their hands together and hissing "precioussss".
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:54 PM
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11. Oh no, not a political crisis
:eyes:
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:56 PM
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13. The message was clear...
...George Bush doesn't care about people, especially if they are poor and/or black.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:56 PM
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14. Too little -- too late
Typical of bushie.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:06 PM
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42. Exactly. Actions speak louder than words.
So glad all the "heavies" were on hand to watch the show.
As if that makes it all the more "serious" --- duh.
Places everyone!
Time for my close-up, Mr. DeMille.

these guys are ... fill in the blank... (I"m tired, but I cannot complain ever again).
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:57 PM
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15. As Bugs Bunny would say, "What a marooon!"
Can this person, who calls himself our leader--be any more fucking pathetic.

He shows up in the middle of a complete catastrophe--making jokes. In other words, he was his usual smirky, ADD-stricken self.

Now....he's "somber". Ahhhh yes...."somber".

The man needs 47 advisers to instruct him to act like a serious human being.

"Ok Georgie...the jokes and the little trip down memory lane when you told childhood tales didn't sit so well with the mother who hadn't eaten or drank water for 3 days. So this time, let's try the serious face and no slapstick. Somber George. We need you somber."

WHAT A COMPLETE DUNDERHEADED, CLASSLESS, THIRD-CLASS, CONFETTI-BRAINED, UNDIGNIFIED, EMOTIONALLY CATATONIC, WILLY-NILLY, NE'ER-DO-WELL!
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:06 PM
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20. Please
TwoSparkles - tell us how you really feel ! :toast: Preznit Clusterfuck is probably barely capable of wiping his own ass.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:57 PM
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16. Forget about the NO disaster - we got a WH PR crisis here! nt
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Nashvilliberal Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:00 PM
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18. Screw him...
My Mom and Pop, Brother, his fiance, her Mom and her Daughter are safe with me here in Nashville, after evacuating their homes on New Orleans' West Bank (Harvey and Belle Chasse). This incompetent idiot twiddled his thumbs while the waters rose; due to his neglect the people of our beautiful city suffered, and because he did not lead the weight of our burden has been increased exponentially.

I disliked him before, but I despise him now.

Make no mistake: 8/29 NEW ORLEANS WILL NEVER FORGET!!!!



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oioioi Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:12 AM
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72. To be fair, he didn't twiddle his thumbs... he was doing plenty...
When announcing the emergency declaration last weekend, he downplayed the significance of potential disaster and need for evacuations and took the opportunity to spend more time speaking about the Iraqi constitution instead.

He spent Sunday night at the Hotel Del Coronado in San Diego while the hurricane closed on the Gulf coast.

On Monday - as Katrina devastated the coast and New Orleans began to flood - he was photographed with John McCain eating cake and strumming a guitar at a San Diego military base.

On Tuesday, he announced "zero tolerance" for those who were stealing food and clothing from stores in New Orleans.

Somebody else may help us fill in the rest of the presidential timeline this week - but as we well know, it's been "hard work".

My best wishes for you and your family. They should be assured that this is is something that none of us will ever forget.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:20 PM
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107. now, be fair...
He wasn't twiddling his thumbs, he was eating cake and playing the guitar.
That's hard work.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:01 PM
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19. "mounting anxiety at the White House"
Where was this "anxiety" as a category 4 hurricane was aimed at the Gulf? Where was this "anxiety" as pictures of floating bodies in a flooded NO were broadcast?
and so on....
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:07 PM
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21. The problem will be the corporate media. The aftermath of Katrina...
has reawakened the long-dormant American awareness of class-struggle -- precisely the awareness that swept FDR and the New Deal to victory in 1932, 1936, 1940 and 1944 -- and the only thing more terrifying to the oligarchy is Marxism itself. Consequently look for a huge media spin-campaign to (1) cover up the deliberate genocide-by-neglect that wiped out New Orleans, its people and its unique culture, and then (2) re-create Bush as a heroic figure, backstabbed by (Democratic) officials at the state and local level. This way, the oligarchy will be able to (3) discredit and belittle not only any objective analysis of what occurred, but any Democratic criticism as well. Goebbels rules: deluged with this sort of propaganda day and night, the American public will be again mesmerized into a zomboid state, and the oligarchy will go back to business as usual: brazenly Tyrannosauric capitalism and subtle fascist tyranny run amok.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:24 PM
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48. I also expect the corporate media to try to rehabilitate his image.
For precisely the reasons you state. If they don't, it will indicate that the plutocracy has lost faith in their puppet. If they attempt to make a hero out of some other conservative figure you will know they have lost faith in Bush. If they push a Democrat it means they have lost faith in Bush, and are afraid of losing control entirely.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #48
113. In a nutshell.
Nice summation of what to expect, and why.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #48
114. Yep, watch for corporate whores from both sides of the aisle coming
front and center in the next few months.

Hillary's outspokeness on the oil industry and it's market speculators had me going, hmmmm the other day. :freak:
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #21
76. I like your summation. Just printed it off for my...
"We knew the truth and the truth did not make us free" file, which I started well before the 2004 election and reference on occasion. Then I weep. Much more to shed tears about now. Much, much more.

Peace.

Class of 56
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:15 PM
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22. What about the dead babies Mr. Bush?
Where was your culture of life when they needed it?
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:48 PM
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36. A mother of one of those dead babies could take her place
by Cindy, with a sign that asks: President Bush, why did my baby die?
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:15 PM
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23. 'Cause its really all about HIM -- Psychopathic Asshole! nt
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:16 PM
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25. So, acting like it's no big deal didn't work...hm...let's act serious now
and see if that goes over any better.

Poor republicans. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. I guess once everything is completely FUBAR, you just can't spin hard enough, or fast enough.

You murderous bastards.

:mad:
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Mike_The_Computer Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:28 PM
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28. Oh, but spin, they will: Cindy Sheehan! Clinton! Gay people are to blame!
Whatever resonates with their ignorant, blind, selfish base is what they'll latch onto next week.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:35 PM
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32. Not this time....
...they've stepped over the line.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:32 AM
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95. I also think they will not be able to bury this one. Too
many of us could find ourselves in an emergency situation and be ignored by the bushie crowd. This is everyday life, natural disasters that can effect anyone/anywhere. People can relate to this from their own experience. It is unforgetable. I still think about Huricane Hugo whenever I hear one is coming.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:35 PM
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118. My fear now is that Fuckface will be whitewashed successfully,
and every gyration of the stock market, every hike in gas prices, every glitch in EVERYTHING, will now be blamed on the hurricane. How this asswipe has gotten away with this shit for so long is beyond me. I just have no clue. If he gets away with this, and the Repub party gets away with this, we are well and truly fucked.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:16 PM
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26. So that's why he finally responded.
" ...to gain control of a situation that Republicans said threatened to undermine Mr. Bush's second-term agenda and the party's long-term ambitions."

Not a damned thing to do with compassion or responsiblity.

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #26
40. Of course, remember the "mayberry machiavellis?" It's all about politics.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:26 PM
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27. The regime will never recover from this. Their disaster of response and
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 07:28 PM by higher class
action is unrepairable unless they can find out the Blanco or some other Dem leader took critical days to play some golf or go to a bridge game. More people got to see the ice heart and foolish public relations stupidity of Bush.

Instead, I believe we are going to learn more about the ineptness or intention of this administration. I think it will get worse for them.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:31 PM
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29. Yep, this is all these people care about
... "the White House scrambled to gain control of a situation that Republicans said threatened to undermine Mr. Bush's second-term agenda and the party's long-term ambitions."

It's not about human beings needlessly dying because of neglicence and incompetence - it's about THEM.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:32 PM
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30. Bush striking a Mussolini like pose....
...like the thuggish, little, dictator wannabe he is.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:53 PM
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38. Geez, that is one big POUT!
I can't stop laughing at his attempt to appear.......I can't think of what that look is supposed to say....nope, still nothing, lol
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:27 PM
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51. What a horrible picture - like a nightmare of Hieronymus Bosch
Bush is bad, but Rummy always scares me even worse.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:01 AM
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85. Rummy doesn't even have to make a face to look evil.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:52 PM
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62. HELP ...sorry don't recognize these people from this angle
did W miss the republican workshop on 'sincerely concerned facial expressions'??????
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:27 AM
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69. That picture is hilarious.
He looks like a comic opera dictator.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:15 PM
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98. Good Gawd, that is a HORRIBLE image...I'm going to have
Nightmares... He sooooooooooooo needs a Shit pie right in the kisser.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:13 PM
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99. I dub this the "Busholini Pout". :) n/t
n/t
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:37 PM
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119. God, what an asshole.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:33 PM
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31. If Bush** had a conscience I might give a sh*t
We'll see if striking "a more somber tone" for the cameras saves his sorry ass.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:42 PM
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33. The genie is out
And it will be harder to put back in the bottle than fix the levies.

Someone draw Bush with his thumb in the levee.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:46 PM
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34. The icing from that birthday cake has turned to the blood
of thousands on his hands and he knows it.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:47 PM
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35. A more somber tone--someone must have smacked him upside the head
and said "You're killing us asshole".

Actually, I have no idea why they let him carry on like that. Rove must have been on vacation too.

Let's hope people have long memories.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:52 PM
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37. I think it is time to remove these guys from office.
Send out an petition for Bush/Cheney's resignation!!!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:30 PM
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52. they all need to be removed from office at once
They are nothing better than a pack of murderous thugs! :grr:

They have ruined my country and I intend to fight!

:argh:

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leftyleftist Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:34 PM
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64. Wait until those people from NO and Miss get settled...
I predict some serious rebellion in this country when they see clips of Bush playing gee-tar on Tuesday and joking around at the airport, Cheney AWOL, and Condi shopping for shoes and taking in a Broadway play (when she could have been sorting through the many international offers of help earlier).
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:02 PM
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41. typical
10,000 people dead, probably 100,000 or more near dead and/or homeless/starving and these monsters are trying to spin it to save their collective asses.

In Japan, the head of state would have quit over a shame this huge. Pity George isn't Japanese.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:12 AM
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91. Bush has no Face to lose n/t
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NYYFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:06 PM
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43. 6 days late, and $10 billion dollars short
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 08:07 PM by NYYFan
Bastards one and all :mad:
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:12 PM
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46. I unfortunately work at a factory,
that is heavily infested with ditto-monkeys. Their only worry is that this will hurt the repiglican party, the people of New Orleans be damned. I have to restrain myself from taking a crow bar to their face.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:10 PM
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57. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:09 AM
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68. To the itchy fingered mod who deleted my post:
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 12:09 AM by mitchum
Did you really think that I was giving the poster assault tips? Keeerist!

Note: Swift wasn't really advocating the eating of Irish babies. Honest.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:21 PM
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47. "...tremendous problems that have strained state and local capabilities"
Yeah, it wasn't DHS or FEMA that let those people down, it was state and local failure.



:nuke:
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:33 PM
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53. yes technique of the moment
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 08:34 PM by CountAllVotes
That's right, pass the buck and blame this disgusting mess on the state and local governments that have been politically neutered and stripped of all power and resources. Have them do the job - uh huh. Only one problem here, how do you do this with NO RESOURCES AVAILABLE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NO ONE in charge with any real power?

Answer that question would you *? Can you? :grr: :grr: :grr:


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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:07 AM
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88. Do you think lack of Federal Funding may have something to do with it?
All states are hurting because of the heavy financial burden laid on them by the lack of Federal funding, mainly due to the tax cuts and the Iraq War. Even if you accept the premise that the states had more of the responsibilty (which I don't) the blame can still rightly be placed at the feet of this Administration and the Republicans in Congress.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:45 PM
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104. Another excellent point. The primary responsibility is FEMA's, but
whatever responsibility remained with the state and local authorities was undermined by the federal cuts!

:mad:
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:24 PM
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49. The GOP and the old USSR
have something in common. Neither one could or can run a country.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:52 PM
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55. Solution - Red States = USSA
.
.
.

Blue States join us Canukastonians as new Provinces!

:bounce:

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:41 AM
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71. I wish
They'd nuke us Bluericans before they'd let us leave. The Reds comprise a gestalt uber-abuser of our dysfunctional family.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:40 AM
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96. That is looking more and more like the best solution. I
live only 150 miles from your boarder. Many times Minnesota would be far better off working with your government.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:50 PM
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117. There's no use in seceding; if PNAC stays in power another 10
years they'll invade Canada for the oil and to shut down its "slanderous"
broadcast media.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:25 PM
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50. Let this nation have a moment of silence before ...
we extend tax cuts for the rich and destroy Social Security. And the Democratic senators better be silent during the moment I slip Roberts onto the SCOTUS.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:50 PM
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54. The following says it all. This is a POLITICAL catastrophe to them.
"White House scrambled to gain control of a situation that Republicans said threatened to undermine Mr. Bush's second-term agenda and the party's long-term ambitions"
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:06 PM
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56. Hey, they've already got a plan...
to rebuild Trent Lott's house out of the rubbles.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:27 PM
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58. "additional active-duty troops"!!! -- how bout bringing in WATER & FOOD,
then evacuating these people to habitable locations, you fuckhead?!?!
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:31 PM
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59. He always has to have Cheney and Rove on the sidelines
Doesn't he know how weak this makes him look? The Emperor has no clothes people.....he never did.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:33 PM
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60. Oh look, Cheney says, "our little frankenstein is off message again!"
How fucking scary is it for everyone trapped in Katrina's wake to know that that guy in charge needs total handling all the time! My GOD! Think of it.. he's so inept and lost that he couldnt' even stay straight enough during his tour!
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:45 PM
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65.  now that they have their ducks in a row

about how they can profit from it financially, they can put on their somber faces and pretend they care.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:52 PM
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66. Squirm you fucking worms! Your lame attempts at damning the levy of
fallout from this are way to late! You fucking freaks are going to get just what you deserve!
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:02 AM
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67. This was all about SHIFT THE BLAME TO THE LOCALS
and get it off our backs ...

"The magnitude of responding to a crisis over a disaster area that is larger than the size of Great Britain has created tremendous problems that have strained state and local capabilities," said Mr. Bush, slightly exaggerating the stricken land area. "The result is that many of our citizens simply are not getting the help they need, especially in New Orleans. And that is unacceptable."

Bolding is mine ... the message is his. This is what we'll be seeing in days and weeks to come. The blame game. The mayor and governor will be roviated and smeared to match the scum floating on the water in NO.

The question is ... how many will buy it this time?
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:39 AM
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70. Honestly, this is SHAMEFUL, and why aren't people screaming?
The news out of the WH is that the administration is worried about how they look, and their political future.

Meanwhile...people are STILL trapped in attacks, dying of thirst, homeless, destitute.

Even the fact that the NYT would write this story shows gow screwed up our priorities are.

The world is turned upside down and inside out. I think it has happened slowly over the past several years, but this disaster and our reaction to it has proven that our government (and I include plenty of Dems in this indictment) is completely lost.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:44 AM
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73. More??!!
threatened to undermine Mr. Bush's second-term agenda and the party's long-term ambitions.

Fuck his agenda! Fuck his ambitions! I want him out of our house.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:48 AM
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74. well maybe if they had tried to save people instead of kill them....
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Mike_The_Computer Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:02 AM
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75. Calamity George strummed guitar while thousands of Americans died.
Once the thousands of deluged houses in are drained and searched, there will be no end to the horror stories of death and suffering. Tar and feathers are just too good for our asshole pResident.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:25 AM
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77. He always has to mention Great Britain
but he forgot Poland.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:37 AM
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79. Vice President Dick Cheney????????
So Dick's not dead afterall.

I'd like to know WTF he has been doing these past couple weeks!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:38 AM
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80. Bush has a POLITICAL crisis
...the rest of us have a national crisis involving tens of thousands of people.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:44 AM
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81. GODDAMN IT! Why is it not a CRISIS until it affects YOU BASTARDS?
I'm sorry, but this is EXACTLY whast is wrong with this fucking government. Oh, now all of a sudden they've realized that this is a *political* problem for *them,* so NOW it's a CRISIS. ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING WOULD HAVE REALIZED THIS WAS A CRISIS A WEEK AGO!

I'm sorry about the caps and the profanity but GOD DAMMIT! Can people not realize how foul it is that our government doesn't think anything is a crisis until it is affecting THEIR OWN POWER? How can you even RUN a piece like this without puking over the utterly putrid premise? Hey, breaking news--the president has become "somber"! Because people are suffering? No, because HE is starting to worry that HIS fate may be affected by this.

FUCK THEM! Get them OUT. Get them OUT and let's put some human beings in charge who can identify a crisis BEFORE it becomes "political."

God DAMN!

:argh:

The Plaid Adder
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:52 AM
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82. I agree
This national tragedy has become politcal. IMPEACH THE WHOLE LOT NOW!!!!!!!
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mirandaod Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:54 AM
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83. Well, we can only hope this crisis
"undermines Mr. Bush's second-term agenda and the party's long-term ambitions". That would be a very, very good thing, the only good thing to come out of this disaster. Let's hope it sticks like glue to them and burys them.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:03 AM
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86. In another attempt to bolster image - more bad news
...the WH is organizing a blood drive.
(Tsk - I should not imply that administration blood is less than or poisoned in any way etc. Bad science. Bad.)
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:08 AM
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89. Too Little, Too Late.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:26 AM
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93. Proving once again that w/ Bush it's ALL politics ALL the time
Karl tells Bush he has to get those pictures of black people dying in New Orleans off the TV screens of America so he can continue his real agenda of further empowering the wealthy and the corporations at the expense of the poor and middle class.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 AM
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94. DON'T LET THEM BLAME THE LOCAL GOVT!
For a slightly different view of their comments, an interesting read on msnbc.com: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9189916/

We know they will try to blame any and everyone they can - that is this administration's MO. We've got to stop it before it gets started in the media. This is NOT the local governments' fault - it is the federal government's doing and they need to be held accountable!
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:44 AM
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97. political concern...
not human concern, rules the day with this administrations actions. How can anyone say "no one knew that the levees would fail"; you joke of a president, I've lived in Alaska for 25 years and even I knew that the levees of NO would not take a direct hit from a major storm. Jeezzusss keeerist. How fucking dumb can you sound?
I'll tell you what is unacceptable you monkey of a presneck, what is unacceptable is your actions, your wast of time, your indifference until your own political neck is in danger. You, mr monkey man, are the problem. Your miss-administration is a greater, and growing, danger than all of alquida combined. You, mr numb brain, are seditious, full of loathing for the america you don't begin to understand.
Anxiety my ass. Go back to the bottle you blowhard. Get drunk and die.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:15 PM
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100. Bush appears to be forcing a frown to cover up his natural...
grin and smirk, and ends up looking like Mussolini.

Bush to himself: "OK... gotta look sad now"
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Raven Remarks Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:19 PM
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101. HEY! COURT ISSUES!!!
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volitionx Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:40 PM
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102. My Father's a Neo-Con, and here's what he wrote...
to me in an Email:

"This tragedy on cable news TV re: New Orleans is getting hard to watch, particularly the footage of the Afros as they loot everything in sight, and apparently, they have shot cops and proprietors right along. Since a state of martial law has been declared, and the Nat'l Guard is or will be on the scene, I say: kill the fuckers where they stand."

Stunningly, he did give money to the Red Cross.

But anyway, his main perspective was the "black people are scary, and violent, and they're stealing property" angle. He was sad for the suffering, but he got really amped up about the looting.

It's all a fear-based, neo-con reaction. Deep down, the Repugs are thinking: "Black people sure must be angry at us for all we've done and they want to kill us for being so cruel to them for so long."

Amazing. All of my father's neo-con horseshit is FEAR BASED.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:02 PM
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112. Yeah, more Rove inspired fear in Amerika
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 04:03 PM by Jim4Wes
The looting diversion was brilliant.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:24 PM
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116. It's all fear-based for them, always has been. That's why 9/11 worked so
well to rally the "base", and why they knew they needed another Pearl Harbor to get that backing for their projects.

It's good that you recognize it.
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Karla Marx Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:42 PM
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103. The only crisis for this assministration is their poll numbers...
they could give a shit about the real crisis in NO. Fuckers. And Chimp joking around--what a goddamned disgrace.
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volitionx Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:49 PM
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105. But the Guitar Thing Works Well For Us...
And I LOVE Bush fuckups that work well for us!

Whereas once you had "fiddling while Rome burns..."

You now have "strumming while N.O. floods."

Perfect! Thank you Bush, for showing your true colors OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER....

You just can't hide that you're a psychopath, can you?

I can't wait for the cartoons of Bush with his yummy cake-ie and his widdle gee-tar!

Strumma strumma! Lookee! Bushie play guitar, mommy!

This dumbfuck is going to take an even bigger dive in the polls!
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volitionx Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:53 PM
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106. Bush's joke about getting DRUNK in N.O. is REVOLTING...
Now, that's some seriously revolting shit...

"Damn, I tell ya, what I'll miss most about this city is how fucking shitfaced I got when I'd come over to New Orleans from Texas with ten friends and a carload of whores. Damn. It makes me sad just thinkin' 'bout it... Well, I'd better be off. I gotta go comfort Trent Lott. After all, his _porch_ got seriously damaged by this hoo-ree-cane."
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:57 PM
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109. There's a hundred-thousand Bush Men in New Orleans.....


(paraphrased from Randy Newman's song, Kingfish: Good Ole' Boys: 1974)

NEVER FORGET NEW ORLEANS

There's a hundred-thousand BushMen in New Orelans
In New Orleans there are BushMen everywhere
But your house could fall down
Your baby could drown
Wouldn't none of those BushMen care.

Everybody gather round
Loosen up your suspenders
Hunker down on the ground
I'm a cracker
And you are too
But don't I take good care of you

(HERE WE'D NEED TO SUBSTITUE WHAT BLANCO/ MAYOR NOLA, LANDREAU ARE DOING)

Who built the highway to Baton Rouge?
Who put up the hospital and built you schools?
Who looks after shit-kickers like you?
The Kingfish do.

Who gave a party at the Roosevelt Hotel?
And invited the whole north half of the state down there for free.
The people in the city
Had their eyes bugging out
Cause everyone of you
Looked just like me

Kingfish, Kingfish
Everybody sing
Kingfish, Kingfish
EVERY MAN A KING

Who took on the Standard Oil men
And whipped their ass
Just like he promised he'd do?
Ain't no Stnadard Oil men gonna run this state
Gonna be run by little folks like me and you

Kingfish, Kingfish
Friend of the working man
Kingfish, Kingfish
The Kingfish gonna save this land.



(I think you can substitute 'Bush Men' for 'French Men' here; French Men, meant to imply the upper class in LA, is what Newman was alluding two as re: his research; the King Fish, of course, was Governor Huey P. Long who, in 1928, JUST LIKE BLANCO IS DOING, told the Federales to stick in their pipe and smoke it as they were moving way too slow for him and the people. Later labeled as a 'dictator', he was a populist. A crazy dentist assasinated him about 10 years later in the marble halls of the Louisiana State Capitol. Its a great album all the way through, documenting seminal events in the South).

Below also is the link to a site that Gov. Blanco has set up in order to pull in money for the clean-up and restoration, keeping it out of the hands of BushCo. Look down after the lyrics of Newman's song. Pass this around please.

KICK THEIR ASS BLANCO: KEEP THE SPIRIT OF THE KINGFISH WRAPPED TIGHT AROUND YOU



The Louisiana Disaster Recovery Foundation has been established in order to help provide immediate assistance to our citizens in need through a network of Louisiana charities, non-profit and governmental agencies, including clearinghouses like the Louisiana VOAD (Volunteer Organizations Active in Disaster). The Foundation is also designed to support long-term family restoration and recovery by focusing on education, housing, health care, legal assistance and jobs for Louisiana families whose lives have been altered by Hurricane Katrina.

By postal mail, please make donations payable to Louisiana Disaster Recovery Foundation, Inc. and mail to:

Louisiana Disaster Recovery Foundation, Inc.
Fed. Tax ID No. 20-3399944
c/o Division of Administration
1201 North Third Street, Suite 7-240
P.O. Box 94095
Baton Rouge, LA 70804-9095
Inquiries may be directed to: LouisianaRecovery@la.gov

http://www.katrina.louisiana.gov/donate.htm


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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:58 PM
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110. GET THE GOP OUT OF THE SOUTH NOW
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:02 PM
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111. "Bush panics and sends in the Marines" - headline
You got to love the accuracy of that headline. Political panic.


http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1886932005
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:22 PM
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115. Worst crisis of his presidency--WHERE IS DICK CHENEY?????
He even has Condi out there trolling around, but DICK IS MIA.

WHERE THE FUCK IS DICK???? Why won't the media ANSWER THIS QUESTION????

Are they being fed a "national security" line? You can't tell the people, because it will make them nervous???

If we can "handle" Rhenquist, we can handle Dick. WHERE IS HE?? Is he DEAD??? Why isn't he HELPING, like good VP's are supposed to do???

Where is DICK???????
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