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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:16 PM
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Famously Conservative New Hampshire 'Union Leader' Rips Bush Response

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001052874

Famously Conservative New Hampshire 'Union Leader' Rips Bush Response to Katrina

NEW YORK One of the most stalwart conservative newspapers in the nation, the Union Leader of New Hampshire, today blasted President George W. Bush's response to the great Gulf Coast hurricane. Later in the day, the president did arrive back at the White House from the west.

An excerpt from the newspaper's editorial follows.

*

Katrina already is measured as one of the worst storms in American history. And yet, President Bush decided that his plans to commemorate the 60th anniversary of VJ Day with a speech were more pressing than responding to the carnage.

A better leader would have flown straight to the disaster zone and announced the immediate mobilization of every available resource to rescue the stranded, find and bury the dead, and keep the survivors fed, clothed, sheltered and free of disease.

The cool, confident, intuitive leadership Bush exhibited in his first term, particularly in the months immediately following Sept. 11, 2001, has vanished. In its place is a diffident detachment unsuitable for the leader of a nation facing war, natural disaster and economic uncertainty.



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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:19 PM
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1. I listened to his speech
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 11:14 PM by Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Thought it was pretty lame and I'm not being partison. I think this disaster is something all of us should care about no matter what our political feelings.

This was a golden oppurtunity for Chimpy but he did not live up to the task.

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:20 PM
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3. all he did was regurgitated info that was already known
and then said it's going to take several years to recover. I don't forget god bless...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:38 PM
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13. chewed the cud as they say in cow country
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:04 AM
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27. Yep, just a restatement of the obvious and known. n/t
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:21 PM
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5. That's right....
And don't forget when the country was under attack Chimpy was trying to read "My Pet Goat".....
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:59 PM
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18. He told Americans to call 1-800 for help?!? where r our TROOPS?!?
:argh:

peace
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:20 PM
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2.  That is really critical, at least for that paper. n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:20 PM
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4. It is critical for any newspaper.....
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:54 PM
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22. YOU SAID IT- one of the most pro 'right-wing' rags in my
knowledge-
This is such a breath of honest fresh air,- in all this b.s.- That the ONION LEADER would dis the despot, in such 'right on' comments is .... unbelievable - and a sure sign, that Katrina is NOT going to be 'sept ll redux'.

You obviously know the Leader- i've known it since Mel Thompson/William and Nacky Loeb days.-
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:21 PM
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6. Ok...This is an Editorial is it LBN? EOM
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:48 PM
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21. The "news" is where it was printed! That makes it worthy of LBN.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:57 PM
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25. Knowing the UL (and i DO) this IS a BIG dis- and important
evidence that the emperor is being seen for the naked fool he is.-
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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:23 PM
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7. A good leader would have ...

A good leader would have mobilized the resources when it became clear that New Orleans would be struck by a category 5 hurricane. The boots should have been ready to move into the city the MOMENT the hurricane cleared.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:02 AM
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47. An even better leader would never have reduced the levee work
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 10:05 AM by karynnj
to save money for tax cuts. An improved levee system would not have avoided a large amount of damage, but it could have prevented the utter destruction that has taken place and it was predictable. My daughter in HS Freshman Earth Science had to read a book that explained how we attempted to control nature by re-routing the Mississippi and dynamically raising and lowering water levels to keep things in balance. It was clear that nature at some point would not be controlled - and it was very important to constantly work to provide a path of least resistance in non-built up areas.

The kids in the class, who found the book tediously written, all ended up understanding enough to know that the prevention work was critical. My daughter actually was explaining to some adults how N.O. was basically below sea water and that there had to be a balance between the fresh water going out to sea and the salt water that could come in from the gulf. If 14-15 year olds could understand the problem, if they cared the administration could too. It was a risk they were willing to take. Again, they were playing with lives.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:23 PM
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8. It's hard not to rip him, really.
I watched this thing unfold two days before it hit. It was all over the news. It was coming and while the exact impact point was not certain you could be pretty damn sure it wasn't hitting Maine.

So where was the preparation? Where was the mobilization of support services and the National Guard? 3 days after the fact the Feds are sort of waking up to the fact they have a huge disaster on their hands. What the fuck have they been doing all week?

Mz Pip
:dem:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:32 AM
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36. Um... yeah... hurricanes are not like the earthquakes we have here
in California. No warning for them. THIS hurricane was in the making for days, and so was the coverage of it. The weather stories were already leading newscasts WAY before the storm hit. So what was this shithead doing? Sitting around on vacation with his thumb up his arrogant, lazy, self-absorbed ass. It wasn't like there was no warning. It wasn't like ANYONE was caught flat-footed. I mean, a Category FIVE hurricane does get a fair amount of publicity...

ASSHOLE. As Jon Stewart said in one of his recent "Daily Show" commentaries - (paraphrasing) "if it's August and the world is going to Hell, we all know where our 'fearless leader' is - off on vacation." Or as a teaser for one of Will Pitt's recent pieces described it - "the guy who takes more vacations than a French aristocrat."

SCHMUCK!!!

JACKASS!!!!

FUCKWAD!!!!

Sorry - can't help it. I just seethe. Good LORD I hope people wake up and that SOMEBODY starts holding him accountable. :grr:
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Nightwing Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:17 AM
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43. Kick!!
You are dead on with your comments and I echo your sentiments regarding *. Never in my life have I ever hated a president so much. Just the sight of him makes my skin crawl and any time I see his smirking mug on camera I can't resist the urge to flip him off.




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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:23 PM
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9. The cool, confident, intuitive leadership Bush exhibited....
in his first term.

"Has vanished"

So what is the explanation? Does the paper put forth the "Two Monkey" theory? What could possibly be the cause?

Maybe it was all show. He had the audience in his hand. He had his "Trifecta". Now we have seen the show, and see the strings that make him dance.

Poor freaking saps at that paper.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:33 AM
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37. Sorry, I must have missed that first term. I didn't see any "cool,
confident, intuitive leadership" exhibited by him at all. All I saw was a lot of coddling, simpering PR blowjobs. Monica might not have been working in this White House, but SOMEBODY was... A whole bunch of somebodies, actually.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:24 PM
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10. How about this, idiot editors, what we saw after the terror attacks...
was just an act. A boy playing Wild West Sheriff who was going to 'round up the in'juns.

It's all an act. This man you long to return never existed in the first place.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:48 AM
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30. Neshanic and Writer...
you nailed it. Thanks.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:18 AM
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45. "Never existed in the first place" - EXACTLY
Remember how he ran and hid for three days after 9/11? That is not leadership. W was *never* a leader.
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Sunkiss BlueStar Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:24 PM
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11. Ok but
My pet goat was a little too cool confident and intuitive
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:34 PM
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12. whow. grand. bring it ON!!
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:38 PM
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14. Say Bye-Bye to The Union-Leader's White House Press Passes
Uh-oh, the Union-Leader did a naughty boo-boo. They weren't servile enough for Imperious Leader.

There goes the Union Leader's White House press passes!
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:43 PM
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15. Not really, a bald studly male hooker on staff would do wonders for them.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:21 AM
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35. ROFL!!! You deserve this Jen Sorensen cartoon - an oldy but goodie
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 01:22 AM by Nothing Without Hope

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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:46 PM
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16. Wasn't he always
Wasn't he always diffidently detached?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:54 PM
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17. Yes, but I think some in NH wanted to remain willfully ignorant
Like my Rush-listening father-in-law.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:04 AM
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26. Hey now, not just NH- as a matter of fact, he LOST the primary to
McCain- and it pissed him off no-end. He figured we were an 'ace in the hole'- he got a big surprise- but it didn't last long.
And how many people 'got behind' Bush after the 11th on ALL sides (i didn't- i was furious with him, and his grandstanding macho response).
I'm so glad that he IS losing even the most RW of supporters tho- this is GREAT news in a time when there doesn't seem much great news to be found.

(i'm sensitive, because there ARE alot of NHites who have worked hard, to have OUR voices heard.)
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:03 PM
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19. Bush's speech made clear his priorities
The opportunity to override of state emission standards is more important than saving lives.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:46 PM
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20. He was never cool and confident
He was stunned and confused and merely parroted what he was told to say.. the Shill in the "audience" 'fed' him the line.."We can't hear you".. He took the cue and voiced his next 'line'..:puke:
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:03 AM
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31. Didn't it take him three days of roaming the country
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 01:03 AM by antonialee839
after 911 to show up and give the appearance of being "cool and confident"?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:14 AM
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33. From Tuesday AM until Friday afternoon
He hid like a scared rabbit hopping all over the country.. blamed it on the SS.."they wouldn't "let" him come back sooner...
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:55 PM
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23. But Blowin' Up Brown People Is So Much More Rewarding
Disaster relief is hard, it's hard work!!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:55 PM
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24. Hmmm, will the right wing soon declare him a hero for another Presidential
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 11:55 PM by mzmolly
failure?

"Wherever the old George W. Bush went, we sure wish we had him back." ~ Uhm, it IS the "same old George W. Bush" you freaking dumb-asses, you're just now smelling the coffee.

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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:42 AM
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28. The response to this disaster has been very bad.
:rant:

The Corps of Engineers has done nothing. The National Guard is MIA. People are dying because the rescue effort is undermanned. The Police are corrupt.

The fools waited until today to evacuate the Superdome. Idiots!

Mr. Bush is a sick joke as usual. Homeland Security has proved that they are nothing more then a Repiggy pork program.

I understand that the mayor was denied resources that he has requested. The Repugs are either assuring that there are no heroes here or they can't govern their way out of a paper bag.

-----

In the event of a WMD attack we are screwed. It would take them 6 months to assemble resources and decide how to deal with the situation and another couple of years to implement the fatally flawed plan. Everyone would be dead.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:47 AM
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29. Has anyone heard about Mike Savage dissing the Prez?
I heard through the grapevine that he had skewered the speech and said something about Bush* not being a leader (which we all knew, but to hear SAVAGE say that?). Is it true?
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:10 AM
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38. He did say that.
He also trashed price gougers (I am certain about oil companies, but there could have been more) as no better than the looters.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:01 AM
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44. He even had a heating oil dealer call in
And say that the public are definitely being gouged/ripped off.

If a DEALER is saying it, then we MUST be totally FUBAR
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:14 AM
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32. BREAKING! Editor pulls head out of ass and discovers head has been up ass.
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:18 AM
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34. Union Liar (aka Union Leader)
Yes, this is your typical conservative newspaper that commends Bush's every hand gesture as "great leadership", so the fact that it is openly very critical of him speaks volumes. The President's support is fading.

The paper I read, the Concord Monitor (part of the "liberal press"), noted that the federal agency that is supposed to respond to natural disasters, FEMA, has been severely cut under this administration, and that it now falls under the jurisdiction of Homeland Security.

I wonder when Halliburton will get the no-bid contract to rebuild New Orleans?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:37 AM
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39. My Dad wrote for the UL, late 50's and was fired for not conforming
to the paper's political leanings. They fired him for his liberal approach to writing and reporting.
Dad always told me that the UL was supposed to appeal to the upstate pig farmers.
I'm very surprised the Leader is actually attacking bu$h.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:46 AM
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40. Newsweek agrees - leadership failures
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 02:48 AM by JoFerret
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9148526/site/newsweek/

...Beyond the poll numbers, the Bush administration faces some immediate, urgent challenges—and serious questions about its response to the disaster. For all the president’s statements ahead of the hurricane, the region seemed woefully unprepared for the flooding of New Orleans—a catastrophe that has long been predicted by experts and politicians alike. There seems to have been no contingency planning for a total evacuation of the city, including the final refuges of the city’s Superdome and its hospitals. There were no supplies of food and water ready offshore—on Navy ships for instance—in the event of such flooding, even though government officials knew there were thousands of people stranded inside the sweltering and powerless city.

Then there’s the speed of the Bush administration’s response to such disasters. Just one week ago the White House declared that a major disaster existed in Louisiana, specifically most of the areas (such as Jefferson Parish) that are now under water. Was the White House psychic about the disaster ahead? Not exactly. In fact the major disaster referred to Tropical Storm Cindy, which struck the state a full seven weeks earlier. That announcement triggered federal aid for the stricken areas, where the clean-up had been on hold for almost two months while the White House chewed things over.

Now, faced with a far bigger and deadlier disaster, the Bush administration faces at least two difficult questions: Was it ready to deal with the long-predicted flooding of New Orleans? And is it ready to deal with the long-predicted terrorist attack that might some day strike another of our big cities?
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:29 AM
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41. Hey ... I broke this story YESTERDAY!
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NoSunWithoutShadow Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:20 AM
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46. Know how you feel.
Let's kick it up for you.

:hi:

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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:09 AM
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42. Well, it's not like his handlers planned this disaster.
They only seemingly "rise to the occasion" when they plan the tragedies themselves.
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