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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:07 AM
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Turkey asks Syria to stop rebel infiltration into Iraq
Turkey on Friday warned Syria it would face mounting international pressure unless it took steps to enact ”more serious” measures to prevent foreign militants from entering Iraq, a top Turkish diplomat said.

The message was conveyed to Syria’s Deputy Foreign Minister Walid Muallem, who met Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul here as part of diplomatic efforts by Damascus to convince the international community that it is working in earnest to prevent the infiltrations.

“We told him (Muallem) that they should do their best and that otherwise they would be in trouble since they have no credibility in the West,” the diplomat told AFP.

“Turkey also expects Syria to take more serious measures,” he added.

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:29 AM
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1. Turkey?
The "rebels" AKA "Suicide bombers" are SAUDIS. How come Saudi Arabia supplies all the terrorists, yet they get off scot free as Bush strolls hand in hand with them in the pretty flower garden?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:58 AM
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2. The Chimp, talking through Turkey.
Unless it is Kurds coming from Syria, why would Turkey give a damn? There may be a bit of this, but it would seem fairly minor in the scheme of things. This seems like Turkey sending Bush's message, as a cheap gesture to the BFEE.
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:38 AM
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5. Turkey has it's own interests to look after

It's in Turkey's interest to have an end to the violence and warfare in Iraq. They want a secure, effective government in Bagdad, one that can keep the country together as a whole, and keep the Kurd's desire for independence under control. The more Iraq degenerates into civil war,(even if it's primarily between the Sunnis and Shites) the more likely the Kurds will be to create an independent Kurdistan. And Turkey has been adament all along that they will not tolerate THAT, no matter what the cost to themselves.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:23 PM
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7. Turkey doesn't care if the Kurds create an independent country
As long as it is made up of 100% Iraqi territory.

What Turkey objects to is giving up its own borders for an independent Kurdish country.

The Iraqi Kurds are supporting, both financially and with a safe haven, the Kurdish PKK terrorist group which are launching attacks (the latest one was this week) in Turkey.
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:37 PM
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14. You're wrong on that...

...Turkey has said repeatedly that they'll use military force to prevent the creation of an independent Kurdistan in northern Iraq. The Turks know that such a nation will control about 1/3 of the oil now under Iraqs control, making them very wealthy. Wealthy enough to buy the arms nessecary to confront Turkey, and eventually Syria and Iran, to take unite all the Kurdish people.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:49 AM
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18. The Kurds have never said they wanted Kurdistan in Northern Iraq
The Kurds have said for years they wanted Kurdistan in Northern Iraq AND Southern Turkey.

The Kurds have never said they were content with just Iraqi territory.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:27 PM
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8. That's what I've read also.
The Turks are sweating bullets because the Kurds want to establish a Kurdish territory for themselves. There are millions of Kurds in Turkey who agree with that plan.

Also, northern Iraq is absolutely marinated in oil. The light, sweet crude stuff that's close to the surface. Just stick in a spigot, and you've got black gold.

I think this is the Tikrit area. The Turks are really nervous about this. The US, on the other hand, doesn't seem as worried about it.

Which worries ME. Stupid idiots in Washington.
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:42 PM
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16. Exactly, cliss...

...Turkey is adamant that the Kurds DON"T control that oil wealth. They know exactly what problems that will create for them, and they have left no doubt as to what they will do if the Kurds declare independence from Iraq, or even if the Kurds get control of the oil under some some lose federation system. Turkey will invade, slaughter the Kurds, and keep the oil for themselves.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:35 AM
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3. cough cough, why is Turkey interest in Iraq?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:19 PM
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6. Turkey's interest is the Kurds
Anyone coming into Iraq by way of Syria is crossing through Kurdish territory.

The Kurds are also allowing the PKK to use its territory to launch attacks in Turkey.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:21 PM
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10. Thanks, I failed to remember the Kurds. Sorry!
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:52 AM
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4. hhmmmm, and who's this so called "top Turkish diplomat"
inquiring minds want to know!!!
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hel Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:16 PM
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9. Here:
The message was conveyed to Syria’s Deputy Foreign Minister Walid Muallem, who met Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul here as part of diplomatic efforts by Damascus to convince the international community that it is working in earnest to prevent the infiltrations.

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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:40 PM
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11. I understand the turkish foreign minister Abdullah Gul
convey the massage to his Syrian counterpart, but who's the source that provided the information the two diplomats discussed? that's what I wanted to know.
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hel Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:51 PM
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12. I think it was delivered to the press by the foreign ministry n/t
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:35 PM
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13. Thanks, but I'm still suspicious about this nameless top diplomat
telling the press;

"We told him (Muallem) that they should do their best and that otherwise they would be in trouble since they have no credibility in the West, the diplomat told AFP."
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:41 PM
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15. Turkey wants......
1) Total control of Tigris and Euphrates water.
2) Iraqi oil.
3) NO independent Kurdistan.
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:25 PM
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17. Why are there no rebels crossing into Iraq from Saudi Arabia? -eom
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:51 AM
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20. There are...
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:50 AM
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19. They should also ask...
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 10:53 AM by StrafingMoose
USA to stop using Syria & Egypt as torture outposts.

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Oh and also, Turkey should also ask itself to stop murdering hundreds of Kurds.
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