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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:11 PM
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Bush Says Iraq is 'Better Than You Probably Think.' (WP)
Well, whaddaya know?!? It's better (probably) than what we (probably) think (probably.) :eyes:

This quote came from the second of two New Hampshire speeches today; FlashHarry posted about the first speech in this LBN Thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=157818

Excerpt from the Washington Post story:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3160-2003Oct9.html

President Bush told Americans today that the situation in Iraq is "a lot better than you probably think," as he sought to rally the flagging support for the U.S. occupation.

In twin speeches here in New Hampshire, the president kicked off an effort to revive determination to remain in Iraq, saying "Americans are not the running kind."

Bush's speech fell on one of the more violent days in Iraq; an attack on a police station killed eight, a Spanish diplomat was slain and another American soldier was killed in an attack on a convoy. Bush did not directly acknowledge those setbacks, but implicitly acknowledged the difficulties and their toll on his own standing.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:14 PM
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1. How would he know?? He hasnt even set FOOT in Iraq. But hes
had over 12,000 murdered and 300 + of our troops killed.

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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:49 PM
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13. Details….details….Our idiot-in-chief doesn’t read details…
He only relates what has been communicated to him….everything is just ducky over there…the media laments over the frivolous…they’re just not portraying the positive things…like our dismantling of their food distribution network, that’s a dangerous socialist thing, we want them to be self-reliant…no government hand-outs….and we’re gonna do the same thing here…work or starve…and if ya can’t work….tough shit…ya can go to the soup kitchen…and….

:evilgrin:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:17 PM
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2. I'm Sorry. but Fuck bush and what, Latest Lies, he has to say...
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 06:17 PM by zidzi
he's a no good murderin' fool. And if one of my Children had died in his "war"..I don't know what I would do!
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:17 PM
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3. he lies more than most people think too!
...
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:26 PM
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28. ...and then some. He comes from a family of practiced liars.
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Stupdworld Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:19 PM
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4. yeah bush is right
better for amateur car bombers and other delightful people
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:25 PM
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5. "Americans are not the running kind."
ahh, except unelected frauds in the VietNam conflict and during the 9/11/01 attack.

Pretty brave with other people's blood.....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:27 PM
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7. Except President AWOL, that is. n/t
...
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iam Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:34 PM
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22. bush* did NOTgo AWOL
He's a DESERTER. If you leave your unit for a couple of weeks, you're AWOL. If you leave for six months like dumbya did, your're a DESERTER.
Why are you guys so nice to this worthless cowardly idiot?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:13 PM
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26. Have it your way!!!
AWOl, deserter, the media refuses to report it one way or another...
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:29 PM
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8. NO HES A COWARDLY AWOL CHICKEN HAWK
He gets someone else to do his killing and murdering of small children.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:34 PM
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10. That reminds me of a line from Shrek when the king
says many lives will be lost, but thats a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

King George the Chickenhawk , what a puke he is.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:26 PM
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6. Good! Then young Bush/war supporters can stop refusing to enlist now!!!
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 06:26 PM by Dr Fate
Unless they are unpatriotic cowards, that is.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:32 PM
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9. Dont trust your lying eyes...
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 06:33 PM by Uzybone
Bush can eat a turd. Nothing he says nowadays is remotely valid. But some people still believe him. :shrug:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:41 PM
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11. Well....
we know he doesn't read any newspapers or listens to any news reports on what's going on Iraq. So I guess he must be relying on his administration who we all know has the utmost integrity. :eyes:
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:43 PM
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12. Well that's a relieve... I was Imaiging something really F**kedUp
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:49 PM
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14. It's probably...
WORSE then you think.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 07:05 PM
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15. He could be right. I think it's Hell, maybe it's just Purgatory.
:eyes:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 07:10 PM
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16. Every day in every way, Iraq just keeps getting
better and better.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 07:20 PM
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17. Then why doesn't HE go there?? The great annihilator, er, liberator!!
Because he knows he'll be torn from limb to limb!!
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 10:01 PM
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23. He flew over it once. That makes him an expert.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 07:38 PM
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18. The people that love junior
is stealing our money and becoming rich.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:02 PM
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19. Bush Says Iraq is 'Better Than You Probably Think.
Or know.

Or see.

Or read about.

Or hear eyewitness accounts about.

"Who ya gonna trust, your lying eyes or my lies?"
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:22 PM
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20. Interesting choice of words
"a lot better than you probably think". What exactly does he mean here? I assume here he means I think it's terrible over there. Or, maybe that's what I probably think. Either way, he wants to reassure me that whatever I'm thinking about Iraq, it's a lot better.

Notice the choice of word 'think'. That lends a very subjective quality to it: well, people can think just about anything. That's not the same as facts. If we see something on TV or read about it, then that's more in line with reality. (or so we hope).

The FACTS are that Iraq has become a Dante's Inferno. Americans are still dying. Iraqis are dying in greater numbers. Of course, we don't get to see much footage of Iraq because the media controls what Americans can see. If we were hooked up Al-Jazeera, the picture would be quite different.

So he's quite wrong. He has no idea what we WOULD think, if we had the right sources.
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:23 PM
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21. Bush: "I'm not probably not as evil and incompetant as you think!"
A campaign slogan for the next election?

P.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 10:05 PM
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24. How would he know? Has he been there?
Or, is it better now that lots of Muslims are dead?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 10:25 PM
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25. What a liar
It's worse than most people realise. Way worse...
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:14 PM
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27. He doesn't read newspapers
so he's relying on what the cabal tells him. "He doesn't know", in my best Al Franken voice.
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