Bush to address Americans from Fort Bragg (Tuesday night, about Iraq)

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Bush to address Americans from Fort Bragg

Reuters
Friday, June 24, 2005; 9:08 AM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush will deliver a major address about Iraq on Tuesday night from the U.S. military base at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, a senior Bush administration official said.

Bush is expected to use the speech to outline his strategy for victory in Iraq and argue for completing the mission amid increasing public doubts about the war.



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[babylonsister]

1. Victory in Iraq?

:rofl: I wonder if he'll attempt to improve our vocabulary while he's at it. :eyes:

[katmondoo]

2. He should get BOO-d then tarred and feathered

Our troops are dying like flies

[supernova]

9. He very well might

Bragg ain't a happy place right now.

[gratuitous]

17. Hmmm, somehow I doubt that very much

Happy place or not, the folks at Ft. Bragg will NOT boo Bush or show anything but the most enthusiastic response to everything he does or says. From the moment he hits the podium until the last malaprop is spoken, the troops will pound their hands into hamburger applauding the fraud.

The coverage will emphasize the warm reception, the happy warriors, their adulation for Bush, and the firm, decisive manner of the Commander in Chief.

Anyone want to bet me? I'd be the happiest clam in the sand to lose a ten dollar donation to DU on this one.

[trogdor]

18. No bet from me.

I tell you what. If there is anything buy thunderous applause, war whoops, hooahs, etc., coming from the crowd, the troops will have hell to pay from the sergeant major, the first sergeant, the platoon sergeant, all the way down the line. They will fake it if they have to. They will punch themselves in the nuts if they have to, but they will do what they're told.

This is why Republican presidents always fall back on military audiences when the going gets tough - because they know they'll get the kind of "enthusiasm" from them, faked or not, that is lacking among civilians.

[halobeam]

77. You see, if I was a reporter, I'd last for exactly ONE article.

Your point is EXACTLY what I would write about. Then I'd be fired.

[CatWoman]

39. the troops have no say in the matter

they will applaud LOUDLY and like it.

that's why he's giving this speech with soldiers as the backdrop.

he knows there will be zero dissent, and overwhelming enthusiasm.

Like it or not, he is their commander-in-chief, and disrepecting him would leave them open to disciplinary action under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

As Helen Thomas noted, Bush is one of three presidents who, once they got in hot water, limited their appearances before "safe, military" audiences -- the others being Nixon and Johnson.

[gratuitous]

44. Well, you're closer to Ft. Bragg than I am

Boo him for me!

[Danieljay]

49. I think you're right on! No bets from me. eom

[peaches2003]

55. I don't care anymore

Sorry and I'm sure this is heresy, but I don't care about the troops over there anymore. They have enabled this madman to continue this tragedy. They applaud him, they allow themselves to be used as props on his stage, they shake his hand and they continue to go to Iraq. Too bad. And yes, they could refuse to go, they could speak the truth, their parents and spouses could be marching in front of the White House; there is a lot the troops could do to help bring this madman down.

[mallard]

81. Re: Happy place not, but made to look otherwise

Absolutely correct, gratuitous!

The entire base will be under strict orders to look thrilled and delighted, humbled and respectful with the chance to be anywhere near the commander-in-chief, issued directly by White House staff (maybe without Bush even 'knowing').

Any sign of dissent will be dealt with harshly, they'll be told.

The base command must be thinking this is about the lowest they've had to stoop in modern memory. It's a propaganda ploy they can hardly enjoy.


Bush's message to the enemy ('terrists') fabricated by an illegal invasion: We are in firm control and will not be deterred by morality issues or by the present need to display enforced loyalty. (My neocon mentors have decided) it's time to escalate the conflict. We're coming to get you so give up NOW!


Bush's message to the American people: We are in firm control and will not be deterred by morality issues or by the present need to display enforced loyalty. (My neocon mentors have decided) it's time to escalale the conflict. Be afraid of what happens if we don't get everything we demand!

References of those who've said this Iraq "regime change" venture was going to be a bad idea friom the start are long overdue. Spotlighting war dissidents as 'the enemy within' could have enormous implications for waning morale of a waning support base, especially if backed by a challenge.

[maddezmom]

3. outline his strategy for victory in Iraq ???

:WTF: does he finally have a plan?

[arwalden]

13. We'll FIRST Have To REDEFINE The Word "Victory"...

or "move-the-goalpost" closer to where we are now.

[KoKo]

4. Another Stunt. What props will he use this time? Flying in on Black Hawk

Gives a speech in front of cheering soldiers so he will be connected in folks mind with Patriot President leading the troops like his "Mission Accomplished Stunt.

"Mission Accomplished" turned out to cause him ridicule. But, I guess he's a "one trick pony" and will try it again. :-(

[brooklynite]

6. This is the Army - he should arrive driving a tank

After all, look at what it did for Mike Dukakis.

[KoKo]

65. Bush in a tank? OMG...how will they "fix" this one. For Rove it's a huge

Mistake. The "fly boy" didn't go over so well...but at that time folks still had hope that he wasn't the "Idiot-in-Thief" he appeared to be.

Whatever "Stunt" he pulls isn't going to come off too well, methinks. Because we've all seen what he "IS" and we don't like it.

I think this might be a HUGE DISASTER! But, he's a Lucky SOAB....and so who knows.

My gut says this is the Speech w/Soldiers that tips him over to the place where Lyndon Johnson went.

:shrug: Rove has lost it. The "Script" is old and they are seen as "has beens." For the drama crew in this administration it's time to "get the hook." They are done for.

But, it won't be "clear skies and easy sailing for us Dems." It will take DECADES to undo what they've done in their years in power which goes back BEFORE CLINTON..in case some of you hear have been on this planet awhile long...

[Arugula Latte]

58. He needs to find another way to parade his Man Parts

before his adoring audience.

[pinkpops]

62. A backdrop that says "Liar Liar Liar..." would be appropriate.

[bemildred]

5. Looking for any kind of traction, aren't they?

The bullshit is just not working like it's spose to.
Maybe he should try the carrier landing schtick again.

[mopinko]

7. get the popcorn

i swear we are ripe for a military revolt. my fingers are so crossed for some soldier to stand up and give him what for.

[underpants]

14. I expect lots of cammo netting, lots of BDU's, and a scrubbed crowd

They aren't going to let any trouble makers anywhere near him.

[mopinko]

29. oh, i expect that too,

wishful thinking, i know. but dissent is brewing in the military. the middle brass really does not like to see their soldiers being misused this way.

[maxrandb]

35. Yes

and a strategically placed black soldier about three paces behind and two spot to the left of the "weeee Cowboy". Perhaps a female soldier too, placed to his right.

[coalition_unwilling]

53. Very few African American soliders in the audience, I'd wager

Since public opinion polls before the invasion recorded that African Americans opposed the war by some 70% (you never heard this in MSM), I'd guess that by now the percentage of African Americans who oppose has risen to something like 85-90%.

[acmavm]

8. AAAUUGGGGGHHHHH! This miserable dumb f**k is just about to make

me have another stroke. I honestly started having TIAs on January 2nd because I got so frigging upset that day reading about that corrupt little braindead AWOL chickenshit coward twit and his handlers. I had the stroke at 2:00 a.m. the next day.

Well, I have that crappy out-of-body feeling again and the corker was this frigging story. Who does that lying little bastard think he's fooling? What the hell is going on here? Every single damn democrat in this country, especially the ones in the House and the Senate should be throwing a shit fit right now.

I think I'd better go. I am so outraged, more than I've been in a long, long time. Since January 2nd to be exact.

[daleo]

67. I hope you're OK.

Thinking about Bush can be bad.

[halobeam]

80. Yeah... you should pop back in and let us know you are OK

I completely believe you about the level of "ill" people are reaching, in direct correlation to this bullshitter. Sorry about my mouth, but I'm enraged too.

Just take a political break. Do NOT turn on ANY news until next weekend. Then the good guys what little we have of them, may start ripping * a new one by then, about this "speech".

Politics can cause all sorts of illness.

[Ripley]

10. Psychokiller shiteatingnaziwetdreamermoran

Why don't you have your repuke pal Freedom Fries Jones stand up there with you and claim victory you diarrhea maggot filled reject from Hell?

[rodeodance]

11. msnbc said the WH had asked for the time--must be a big positive speech.

[Ripley]

15. Yeah a big positive speech. uh huh.

He better have his best fucking SS detail with his lame ass, cause the good people of NC are tired of their sons and daughters dying in Iraq and they might be good shots.

[peaches2003]

56. Yeh, but

But is anybody even listening anymore?

[dbt]

24. JEEBUS, Ripley! What do you REALLY think?

Ya gotta let it out once in a while, Sis. You are simply TOO repressed!

:hi:

[Ripley]

27. You lookin for a knuckle sandwich?

Cause I got one right here for ya. And it has Texas Pete on it too.

:hi:

[UpInArms]

12. I wonder if the major networks will even carry this "major" policy

spew?

Last time there was a lot of arm twisting going on because the dimson had nothing new to say that had not been said 82,037 times.

Saddam Bad
Evil-doers
Terra Terra
Progress Making
Rah Rah
Blah Blah
Quack Quack

[SammyWinstonJack]

46. This will make it 82,038 times.

The simpleton never comes up with anything new, just the same old tired spiel each and every time. Not worth watching and possibly throwing something through the TV.

[SammyWinstonJack]

16. Victory?

But I thought the mission was already accomplished? Didn't Commander Cuckoo Bananas make a big show of stating that? Can't he remember anything? I won't watch that Lying scumbag even if my life depended upon it.

[LeftHander]

19. You mean Mission NOT Accomplished?

But but but....

[ramapo]

20. He thinks about it every day

Perhaps that'll be his "stratagery"

[Postman]

21. Fort Bragg?? Why not hold the address in Baghdad??

It's easy to give speeches in front of soldiers grateful to be alive and going home every night to their families.

Why not give the "Iraq Plan" speech to the people who really need to hear it in Iraq?

It's June 2005 and this turkey has "a plan" for Iraq over 2 years after HE started the war.

Hey Bush, I have a suggestion. Go take a flying leap out of a C-141 at 5000 feet without a parachute.

[SaveAmerica]

23. Hoooaaaah

[mediaman007]

40. Hell, I'd be impressed if he walked out onto Pennsylvania Avenue

and met real Americans. This guy is so insulated that he could never shake hands with anyone that hasn't been through a background check.

He is a phony phuck.

[warrens]

42. I'll contribute a nice big Bring Em On tshirt just for the event

It'll say, I'm On a Crusade on the back.

[dbt]

22. bu$hler's handlers have, at last, become desperate.

The Regime "doesn't pay attention to polls," the Worthless Little Fuck himself does not read the papers--yet here comes a "major address," complete with a "strategy for victory."

Those who pull the Marionette's strings are scared shitless.

[Roland99]

25. He's going to BRAG about his policy at Ft. Bragg?

Beautiful.

[Lori Price CLG]

26. My comment:

:puke:

And, when does Bush's treason trial begin? All penalties for treason need to be on the plate.

Lori Price

[RamboLiberal]

28. I resent AWOL using our troops as Props!

At least LBJ and other Presidents had the decency to address us from the Oval Office or from the WH.

Are any pundits or Dems going to have the courage to rip this blatant stunt!!!!!!!

:grr:

[deminks]

30. War is Peace, freedom is slavery,

victory is defeat.

[otohara]

31. Surrounded By Military

flags everywhere - some stupid banner "FAILURE IN IRAQ IS NOT AN OPTION" blah, blah, blah...lies, lies, lies - errrr...misleading, misleading...

[The Sleeper]

32. Liarpalooza is coming to a town near you !

[calimary]

57. Liarpalooza! That's a GOOD one!

Welcome to DU - a MOST impressive contribution here!

And he certainly would be a Liarpaloser.

[Rainscents]

73. Sleeper... Welcome to DU!!!

Liarpalooza... LOL :rofl:

[grytpype]

33. This should be good.

Terriss are bad. They blow things up. We need to beat the terroris. So we will train the iraqi army as long as it takes. And we don't know how long it will take but it won't be too long. We are winning.

[Karla Marx]

34. My predictions

First, he'll announce the round-up of all of us treasonous liberals.
Then he'll announce the start-up of the draft.

[democrat_patriot]

36. Wow. Only took 2 years for a plan. Like the SS plan?

Whatever the f**k that is. Does anybody know?

Plan: Send more troops, 'train' the 400,000 iraqi forces, give 9 billion to halliburton. Bash Dems.

[llmart]

37. Oh, too bad. I think I have to clip my toenails that night......

and won't be able to watch him spew his propaganda.

Like I'd watch him anyway. He makes me want to vomit when I see him blabbering away.

[librechik]

38. can't wait to witness the final breakdown

I have a feeling it will be more pathetic than Nixon's on-camera disintegration.

it's scary witnessing the madness in King George's eyes but it must be exposed to all as much as possible.

[IChing]

41. He needs a Military Base to address the nation from

1. He feels safe (couldn't do in a public place)

2. Some of the troops will be staged behind him. Where have we seen that before?
I would bet money on that

3. Lots of Flags, patriotic military jingo crap.

4. I wish it was at Walter Reed instead.

[Felix Mala]

43. This guy has an inexhaustible supply of free passes.

He is the most-fortunate of fortunate sons.

[flordehinojos]

45. to show that he is commander in chief fidel castro always speaks in

fatigues, except when being visited by the Pope (as in l998), or attending Mitterand's funeral in Paris, or receiving foreign dignataries in Cuba ..... Poppy's son doesn't wear fatigues, except when flying in to (was it the ARIZONA, or the MISSOURI?) to announce MISSION ACCOMPLISHED ... He uses troops as his backdrop to show that he is COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF of the newest DICTATORSHIP around: we are in dictatorship. The press is his realm. We are his oppressed.

[Behind the Aegis]

47. Ft. Bragg

It has been all but shut down since the war on Iraq. There are times when only active military is allowed on base. My father, retired Airborne Ranger, can gain access, but my mom cannot. It is rare when they shut it down to that level, but it has happened twice in the past few months to my knowledge because my mom was bitching about not being able to get my dad's meds from the hospital. Shrub will be VERY insulated there and Fayetteville is very military-friendly (to a point), but my understanding is even they are growing VERY weary of what is happening. Who knows, maybe a solider will stand up to his Commander and Chief and say, "no more! I will not continue to follow illegal orders, as it is a disgrace to our nation and the uniform I wear!" One can dream!

[Miss Chybil]

48. Why all the staging? Can't he just give a straight up speech from the

White House? I know... silly question.

[pfitz59]

50. Yep, silly question.....

Commander Bunnypants needs all the props he can get. What's the weather report for Ft Bragg? 100 degrees & 100 percent hmuidity? Poor soldiers are gonna be standing around for HOURS waiting fo5r the chimp-in-chief to: 1) fly in 2) shit all over them 3) fly out. Base will be in lockdown for hours before and after. What must be done to protect the most hated man in the world!

[Miss Chybil]

60. And they have to smile about it. It sucks being background. nt

[regularguy]

51. "this is a real time of testing"

God god, can any of these people speak the freakin' language?!?!?!?

[William Seger]

52. Dems should do a rebuttal from Arlington Cemetery

[Catchawave]

54. Why that silly President Girlie-Con-Man......

...hiding behind the skirts of our American troops! It's so obvious a photo-op for his NUCKING FUTS political base.

And the lovely models standing behind him will represent every nationality, race, color and creed handpicked by the RNC and Karen Hughes.

I agree, if he wants to say something important, he can say it from the Oval Office. Most Americans don't realize the troops are "ordered" to stand at attention and be respectful of Mr. Noodles.

:banghead:

[LibDemAlways]

82. Chimp couldn't find the Oval Office if his

life depended on it. He's never there. Either out riding his bike or eating rubber chicken at a fundraiser or talking to cows in Crawford or reading "My Pet Goat" to schoolchildren or posing for staged photo ops like the one Tuesday - in short doing everything but the job he was "selected" to do. Because, let's face it, he doesn't have the smarts to make it as a Friendly Greeter at Wal-Mart.

On any given day Cheney is the guy sitting behind the Oval Office desk conducting the evil business of the BFEE. He's obviously given the OK for chimp to make a well-rehearsed speech to a carefully selected audience under orders to applaud the boob. Chimp is probably pissed beyond words that he'll have to spend all weekend practicing, which will take valuable time away from his bottle of Jim Beam and his video games.

[Auntie Bush]

59. If he lives up to his reputation...he will go DOWN in the polls after

his speech.

[HardWorkingDem]

61. Kind of funny....

how he can find a military base now, but decades ago he couldn't find the one he was supposed to be assigned to....

[spotbird]

63. Is there a press conference tonight? nt

[Renew Deal]

64. Why would this be televised?

This is just another one of his bullshit speeches that he gives every day. He should speak from the white house, not a military base. I bet there will be backlash. He's come out worse every time he's done this.

What's interesting is that the more fucked up everything is, the more he does prime time speeches. The last one was pretty recent.

He's tring to get out ahead of the Abu Graihb pictures. That's when the support for the war will really take off. :eyes:

[Sean Reynolds]

66. I'll be watchin the NBA Draft!

[FreeStateDemocrat]

68. A “Banana Republic” speech by the supreme leader (w/o required uniform?)

This really smacks of a Goebble's staged Nazi propaganda rant by Herr furher to warmonger.

[IndianaGreen]

69. Bush should use the coffins of the dead as backdrop for his speech

to show the real cost of this war that he wanted so badly in order to get his jollies.

[DS9Voy]

70. Why do I have a feeling it will be about starting the draft?

[Rainscents]

72. Welcome to DU!!! You've got a good pint!

:hi:

[anotherdrew]

71. I'm betting he stays at the base and declares martial law

[Twist_U_Up]

74. Everyone should TURN OFF their TVs at that time

kinda like turning your back on the twerp

[agincourt]

75. I want to see him put his Yale cheerleader uniform on,

and bellow out "Huah!". Head up ass handily. Maybe "military guy" Jeff Gannon can put on a pep rally with shrub.

[Catherine Vincent]

76. Mission Accomplished.

Part Two.

[JerseygirlCT]

78. Oh my -- it's worse than we thought

he only does this when things are really, really, really bad. And then he inevitably makes them worse.

Watch the poll numbers plummet even farther next week!

[salminen]

79. doesn't it seem odd to the republicans that

their president can't address the nation from any venue where the crowd isn't ordered to applaud by people carrying guns...