Bush Approval: 42%!!!

[CRYINGWOLFOWITZ]

According to the Pew poll. The poll right before, an AP poll, had bush approval at 43%!! Speaker Pelosi, Majority leader Reid, here we go!

http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

[bluestateguy]

1. presidents w/ 42% approval ratings don't get their bills through Congress

and that also means that there is just no excuse for Democrats to be cowardly about confronting him, though I'll cut Nebraska's Ben Nelson some slack.

[unblock]

2. welllll, "presidents" with 47% approval don't get re-"elected" either...

you may have noticed that the usual dynamics don't seem to apply to der shrub....

then again, 42% sure beats 84%, or whatever he was just after 9/11!

quack, quack!

[bluestateguy]

3. 47 is a different number than 42

47% is kind of a gray area for an incumbent officeholder whereby if you can just make your opponent unacceptable and sufficiently demonize him you can win over the necessary 4% of disapprovers and squeak back in.

It kind of hurts when the challenger doesn't fight back when he is attacked.

[unblock]

7. except that, historically, this NEVER happens

re-elections are ALWAYS referenda on the CURRENT oval office holder, never on the challenger.

except, according to the msm in 2004.... :grr:


i agree that it was "close enough to steal", but only with the cooperation of the rest of the banana republican leadership. now they will pay the price for having an unpopular president, and may suffer themselves at the polls in 2006. we hope.

maybe when they see the damage to their own careers, they will start speaking and/or leaking against shrub. deep throat 2005, where are you?

[bluestateguy]

10. reply

Remember this though, and that is that we have only had polling and presidential approval ratings for 60 years. That means only about 10 cases in which an incumbent president was actually on the ballot. So it might be too early for us to draw conclusions and to say the word "never" when we only have a data set of 10. Anybody with a background in statistics will tell you that you can't draw a whole lot of conclusions with only 10 cases.

[unblock]

11. you don't always need a large sample size

and statistics aren't always proper to use at all. each presidential election has its own circumstances and dynamics and challenges of the times, so comparing against previous elections is always hazardous, even if we did have a large sample size.

but i don't need statistics to point out the unprecedented nature of shrub's "re-election".

political scientists will be struggling to explain this one for decades, unless the fraud & propaganda story becomes accepted.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

24. If one controls the election process, or at least the election machines,..

...what difference does it make how low one's approval rating goes?

IMHO, people should be thinking in terms of getting Herr Busch removed from office along with all of his NeoCon cronies.

[Jawja]

25. Yes, and this one

had Osama make an appearance the Friday before the election to warn voters what would happen if * was re-elected. How convenient!!

Notice that he is still in power and appears to have been "re-elected," and there is no "blood in the streets" like Osama warned?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. The American people are slow to awaken....but once awakwned,....

...they became very difficult to stop.

IMHO, the giant has just now begun to become aware of what's been REALLY happening.

[katty]

87. Agree-once roused they do become a force

saw this in pre-watergate and once it hit-it hit fast.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

51. My favorite Al Franken quote"They won dirty." n/t

MKJ

[Amonester]

71. So far, deep throat 2005 seems to be somewhere in

Britain.

Let's hope it starts "raining" tons of deep throats in Merika soon...

It's about time, 'cuz it's gettin' late...

:hangover:

[katty]

88. UK PTB have set their PitBulls on bush/cheney

[proud patriot]

83. That's because Americans were disenfranchised Nov. 2005

The lines The power outages The flattened tires
the unmarked doubled up districts The Lines The
faulty machines .

The outcome doesn't represent the will of the people.
Bush acts as leader without consent of the governed .

pretty obvious about now, isn't it ?

[Brooklyn Michael]

63. 42 = The Answer

....to Life, the Universe and Everything.

[seg4527]

76. damn, you bet me to it. ;-)

[AnnitaR]

4. He's a FRAUD on all levels!

"then again, 42% sure beats 84%, or whatever he was just after 9/11!"

Yep, he's needing another 9/11 right now. You can bet they are planning something as we speak.

[screembloodymurder]

9. You're right.

They did it once and got away with it. What's to stop them?

[ckramer]

62. But Howard Dean et al need to tell Americans the truth, constantly

Speak up from the top level!

Hopefully the democrats can regain the Congress majority in 2006.

[karynnj]

17. Before this last election, there were no Presidents in the

middle to high 40s range. The pundits who all repeated the axiom that under 50 was unlikely to win were quilty of very poor data analysis forecasting in a range for which there was no data.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

26. We haven't had an elected President since All Gore in 2000....

...charting the approval rating of a dictator has never been done before.

[unblock]

46. really? there were no president RE-ELECTED with those numbers

what were lbj's numbers? bad enough for him to drop out.
what were carter's numbers?

keep in mind, also, the the undecideds also historically go about 65% toward the challenger.

[trogdor]

33. Even the Tampa Bay Devil Rays win every so often.

Depends on whether they're playing, um, er, the Yankees?

[acmavm]

16. Just out of curiousity, why would you 'cut Nebraska's Ben Nelson

some slack'?

Where do you live?

[shantipriya]

35. Bush and approval

I like to agree with you BUT the Repug congress and senate and judiciary will make it happen for the Shrub

[Frederik]

79. No excuse

With 42% approval, the DSM and the other documents that have emerged, Iraq going to hell, no success with his destruction of SS: Bush is sitting there with a big red laser dot on his forehead. Take him out!

[Amonester]

82. Plus, 2 little "things" #1. Where is bin Laden?? and #2. When will

the little dictator "call" his Saudi's ev_o_il "fiendz" and "order" 'em to open up the spigot like he "promised" he would... IN 2000?????????

42% (all idiots???) will never get an answer (or have no memory left).

:banghead:

[MattPSU]

5. Approval ratings in the gutter

Are Bill Schneider and Candy Crowley still referring to him as a "popular wartime president"?

[bluestateguy]

6. You'll probably have to get down to 35% before that happens

and old Michael Barone of US News and World report will probably require an approval rating of 25% before he stops using that kind of language.

[unblock]

8. hah! 25% approval is merely "embattled"

[freedomburn]

12. Oh happy day! Bye bye lame duck Bushie. Enojy the next 3 1/2 yrs. NT

[salin]

13. nah - at "25%" he will be "the president who is still popular among some"

:shrug:

[Tesla]

14. I can't believe there are still 42%

I mean, what are these people thinking!!!

Are they afraid to say they are unhappy?

Are they afraid they will go to Hell??

Are they brainwashed??

Do they really think killing inocent people everyday is OK?

[Logician]

19. It's all those butt-heads still buying the culture war argument

It's all those folks who will vote against their own best interests (economic and otherwise), because they have bought the Rovian argument that the most important quality of the GOP is the party's intent on preserving an old-fashioned, archaic, pro-fundamentalist culture in America.

Why think of Social Security's past successes and the need not to destroy this wonderful program, when one can focus on all the social and cultural outliers who are intent on keeping religion out of government and creating true equality for all!

[PunkPop]

56. How do we send them the interview of Mary Carey from Countdown last night?

n/t

[brokensymmetry]

20. Well, actually -

they're thinking that life is OK for them, and all is well.

They do not care in the least about Iraq; their sons and daughters aren't in the military. The economy isn't bad for them. Property values are going up.

If the economy gets worse, then you'll see some serious downward movement in chimpy's approval ratings.

[leftchick]

23. I don't believe it for a second

If the polling was accurate it would show him below 40%. We have not had accurate polling since August of 2001.

[0007]

48. If you apply the 7.5% repuke fudge factor, junior is at 35%

[leftchick]

54. That I would believe

35% pure freeper repuke base still believe in their cimperor**.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

28. Maybe they're just polling the Republicans.

[n2doc]

61. oversampling repukes

When you look at the details of these "polls" they invariably oversample repukes, sometimes >40% R, 30%I, 30%D (or less). I figure for the next election they won't even bother to poll anyone but repukes so that they can "validate" Dibolding...

[realcountrymusic]

34. Hard to speak

When they have their mouths full of Shrub.

rcm

[radfringe]

15. fyi: link for summaryof polls

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls.html

[FLSurfer]

18. I love this kind of news

He was always unpopular with people who looked for the truth. Now, to see his numbers plummeting lower, some people must be coming over from the dark side.
What you guys are doing here on DU is making a difference.

[Massachusetts]

21. "Bush Approval: 42%!!!"

Still to high of a percentage of MORONS in OUR country.

[Wright Patman]

29. If the illegal invasion of Iraq

had been a success and gasoline was back down to $1 a gallon, he'd still be Mr. Invincible.

Sadly, Americans do not care that they are hated all over the world for their imperialism at the point of a gun as long as it achieves the result they expected.

In this case, so far, it has not. Indeed, it can be said to have backfired at the pump.

[dalloway]

22. as the DSM creeps more and more out into middle America

we can sit and watch those numbers continue to slide. And they haven't even release the court-mandated photos from Gitmo yet.

[Robworld]

30. This has to be a good sign for 2006

The Democrats have to grow some testicles and take back the house, and senate in 2006.
No more ads of democrats hugging Bush.

http://www.myspace.com/dumdumgoestothecircus
http://www.dumdumgoestothecircus.com/

[natrat]

31. yes ...ba by 43

[Beel2112]

32. Wow...

Looking through that pollingreport site, the highest approval Bush has had since mid-late May is 48%. Definitely a trend, and not a good one for Bush. At this rate, he's gonna be left with nothing but his core constituency (the people who'd only defect if Bush came out and proclaimed he enjoys eating babies) before 2008.

Still, that poll had an "unsure" of 10%, so there's definitely a little wiggle room.

[tblue37]

81. Nah, they don't care if he eats babies.

He would have to come out in favor of eating fetuses for them to give a damn.

[BiggJawn]

36. Well. Gues he can kiss re-election good-bye then...

I have a feeling his tanking numbers won't mean a thing in next year's congressional elections.

NOTHING in this administration has gone like it should.

He shouldn't have been elected in the FIRST place, he definitely should NOT have been re-elcted, and he should have been impeached by now.

[indepat]

37. What on earth would it take for only 39% to approve this Administration's

PNAC agenda.

[goodboy]

38. that really is something. never seen it below 43%...ever. (nt)

[meganmonkey]

45. Isn't it lovely?

:hi:

Hope you are doing well and that those nasty motherf*ckers are done bothering you!

Say hi to your beautiful wife for me!

[Dawgs]

60. I started a thread on that last week...

43% many times, but never lower. Floodgates are opening!!!

[BlueIris]

72. Once again, I'm both elated and horrified.

The pressure's really on him now.

[Danmel]

39. And it's too late baby. now it's too late

With the possible chance that he won't get everything he wants, what difference does it make now. The Democrats will bow ,scrape and concede, and he still has three and half years to fuck with us. It is , as they say, COLD COMFORT.

[nine30]

42. No , its not too late

I want every ( non-GOP-faithful) Fucker who bought in to the swift boat ads or whatever and voted for * to deeply regret what they did. And I want all of them to be personally affected by *'s policies, in whatever form. Its a lesson to be learnt and never forgotten

[Danmel]

43. Oh so do I

The problem is we are all going to be affected by it too. We're all on this sinking ship of fools, whether we are fools or not.

[Fluffdaddy]

40. Polls mean nothing......Did we not learn this back in November ?

To Hell with Polls. The only poll that counts is Votes

[shantipriya]

57. Bush's approval

I agree with you. Polls mean nothing. With Americans inclined NOT to question their Presidents and blind loyalty of the Repugs,it is hard to imagine anything will change in spite of the low approval ratings.
There were ample and seroius reasons for Bush to be voted out last November. Instead he not only won the electoral college BUT also the popular vote. Go figure!!!

[nine30]

41. Someone open a bottle of Champagne please !!!

[DrZeeLit]

44. Wait a minute! Wait a minute! But.... he has a MANDATE!!!

What a crock of shit.
Six months after the election and he couldn't get elected right now?
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark...er....Ohio, Florida, and New Mexico.

Well, I just hope he takes 'em all down with him. Every single big mouth, swaggering Republican congressman and senator who's up for election next round.

[Doctor_J]

47. Does that make him embattled or beleaguered?

:shrug:

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

49. Imagine if we had an aggressive, independent media...

Of course, if we did, he probably never would have been elected in the first place. But I think Shrub is in for a rough couple of years -- the media are notoriously lazy and need to have stories handed to them. An "Embattled and Unpopular President" theme gives them a story line that Stevie Wonder could follow on a dark night. I expect them to start being more hard-hitting in their coverage of the White House because it will sell newspapers (and attract viewers) and because it's the path of least resistance.

[benburch]

50. Watch as they distance themselves from him...

Nobody wants to "catch a falling knife."

[cthrumatrix]

52. watch as repugs and RW radio does as well...all hypocrites

[prodigal_green]

53. How's that man-date working out for you chimpy?

Guess he didn't put out.

[tk2kewl]

55. that's 57% DISAPPROVAL thank you

nt

[BlueIris]

73. Really? The whole rest of them flatly disapprove? Cool.

And that's a big, fat pile of disapproval, then, isn't it? Damn.

Good luck, George.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

58. "Get on up for the downstroke!"

- Kevin Calabro, premiere NBA announcer.

[catmandu57]

59. It's time to be scared too

Especially when this pos goes slinking in to tejas later this year, be afraid people, be very afraid,
Keep your eyes wide the fuck open.

[Jamison]

64. Good news, but...

it won't drop too much lower. I think it would bottom out at no less than 33%. Those 33% are your die-hard freepers. The kind of people that if Bush said "Kneel!", they'd bow down before him and worship.

[dxstone]

65. 42 for #43?

That's gotta be some sort of new world record, no?
But I really don't see what all the fuss and commotion is about...

[earth mom]

66. Naw-I don't believe it. More like 4 + 2 = 6% nt

[The_Casual_Observer]

67. chimp said he has political capital to spend. That was just 5 months

ago. I wonder what he is planning to buy?

[dave29]

68. UNPOPULAR PRESIDENT UNPOPULAR AGENDA

scream it loud, scream it proud

[Algorem]

69. Finally.

[natrat]

70. will it be fashionable in redneck circles to hate *ush?

stay tuned

[BenDavid]

74. Could not happen to a nicer person....

[BlueIris]

75. Ya know, I had this GREAT dream last night...

...well, most of it sucked actually; America was spiraling into another Depression, (I know...but it was being acknowledged on t.v in my dream) my ex-boyfriend was still hanging around my city with his brand new spouse and their fat little drooling, ugly baby, and Bush and Cheney had just resigned. Together, for some reason. My dad and I were talking about it at length, which is strange because my father hates Democrats and anything resembling a victory for the progressive left. And now, I wake up to the lowest poll numbers ever...I am a low-grade psychic, after all.

[zara]

77. 42%=SOLID REPUBLICAN SUPPORT

Last time I checked GHypocrisyP controlled all branches of govt. : (

[TheDonkey]

78. He's hurt, let's go and finish em' all off

Attack, and take the issues away them

[Diane R]

80. But, does he know?

Somehow, I think they are telling him that his poll numbers are great.

[GOTV]

84. I don't think this news is so good...

... not that it's bad news. Irrelevant is more like it.

His rating are low because he's a bad president and they've stopped pumping him up with campaign rhetoric and games because the election is over.

When his numbers threaten the Neocon control of government they will boost him back up to where they need him to be.

People are no smarter. It's simply a reaction to a change in the media environment. Restore the environment to that of September 2004 and the opinion of the people will be restored.

It's just like Coke and Pepsi. They need to continue to advertise just to maintain market share. You'd think either one could stop advertising since everyone know what Coke and Pepsi are like. But if one stopped, its market share would surely start to drop.

It doesn't mean people's tastes have changed. It's just a predictable reaction to a change in their media environment.

You could practically get people to eat feces if the marketing campaign was slick enough. If you then cut off the marketing campaign people would start to say, "Hey! We're eating shit!" and it's sales would diminish.

Same with the president and his popularity. It's low because he's bad and they've stopped his marketing campaign.

[Inland]

85. Shitty president has shitty poll numbers. Whoda thought! fnt

[katty]

86. 43? ! going going GONE