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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:03 PM
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U.S. General Says Venezuela is a Danger for the Hemisphere
After speaking at a School of the Americas graduation ceremony, Craddock rears his ugly head again for more saber rattling. Every few months they repeat the same bullsh*t. :mad:

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Caracas, Venezuela, June 14, 2005—Yesterday, in an interview with the Miami daily El Nuevo Herald, General John Craddock, the head of the U.S. Southern Command, warned of the malice of “radical populism” and “transnational threats” in Latin America and singled out Venezuela’s influence among its neighbors as “generating a destabilizing situation that represents a danger for the hemisphere.” Venezuela’s Minister of Communication and Information responded that Venezuela’s government believes that the U.S. government is a destabilizing force in the world.

Echoing previous comments made by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Craddock contended that the “threat to democracy in Venezuela” is very real. Democracy “is being changed in Venezuela in order to eliminate the separation of powers, the process of control and equilibrium. I believe that there is a danger for Venezuela’s neighbors if this process is exported, and if they are trying to influence their neighbors or other countries in the region, this can become a destabilizing situation that would not be of help for the region... I believe that the neighbors tend to be concerned.”

The interview with Craddock took place hours after he presided over the graduation ceremony of twenty-two Latin America officers in the Institute for Cooperation for Hemispheric Security (WHISEC), previously known as the School for the Americas, located in Fort Benning, Georgia. The School for the Americas trained many of the most brutal military units in Latin America, which have been responsible for tens of thousands of murders, disappearances, torture, and rapes.

Venezuela’s Minister of Communication and Information Andrés Izarra dismissed Craddock’s comments as a continuation of the “same song that has been repeated in the U.S. Department of State and that this policy has produced so many failures recently.” Izarra said that it is U.S. foreign policies that are the “most destabilizing in the world,” because of its invasions of countries and for violating their human rights.

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1662

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:05 PM
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1. Oh, for fucks sake
and right after speaking at the SOA.

:puke:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:06 PM
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2. What a dumbass.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:07 PM
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3. A clear and present danger to big corporations
and their CEO's
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:02 PM
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15. Absolutely!! They could care less about people and democracy
When they talk of destabilization, they are referring to threats to the status quo of businesses running with impunity and theft of the resources in these countries. General John Craddock is yet another example of a right-wing fucking asshole willing to shed blood and kill men, women and children to feed his filthy pie hole. May he fall in a hole so deep that he can only escape from it with sincere remorse and a humble request for help from his victims.

In the meantime, this morph of the School of Americas speaks of "security" but their intent is to create only war, rape, torture, murder, and grief. These wastes of flesh are sub-human.

Craddock, you jerk-off, what goes around comes around.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:07 PM
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4. Anybody who doesn't kiss neocon ass...
is a threat to the Hemisphere. Pretty soon he'll be saying that about Canada and California.
On behalf of the rest of the Americas: Craddock, go FUCK YOURSELF!
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:09 PM
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5. Heaven forbid that people benefit from the resources of their country...
instead of large transnational corporations.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:34 PM
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25. thanks for the excellent links
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deacon2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:09 PM
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6. Setting up the conflict
The localized rhetoric hasn't really taken hold with the American sheeple - they seem to just be awakening from their persistent vegetative state and have little taste for more nation building. So now the Neoconartists must escalate to "a danger for the hemisphere." These bastards aren't going to be happy until we've bloodied every "unfriendly" country - as long as they have oil or a nice pool of it nearby, of course.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:09 PM
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7. Talk about the pot and kettle
One word change here, Venezuela becomes USA:

threat to democracy in USA is very real. Democracy is being changed in USA in order to eliminate the separation of powers, the process of control and equilibrium. I believe that there is a danger for USA’s neighbors if this process is exported, and if they are trying to influence their neighbors or other countries in the region, this can become a destabilizing situation that would not be of help for the region... I believe that the neighbors tend to be concerned.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:50 PM
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29. Very good demonstration of hypocrisy.
It isn't usually that obvious (sometimes you have to change a few words or even a whole clause).
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:11 PM
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8. What? Do they have nuclear facilities? Are they amassing an army?
Are they going to invade Margarita (wait they own that). Perhaps Chavez should take responsibility for that girl murdered in Aruba (it was nearby).

BULLSHIT!

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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:31 PM
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11. BushCo will keep this propaganda....
machine going with Chavez/Venezuela. We have to fight it!

www.handsoffvenezuela.org
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:34 PM
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12. Okay - no democracy should be respected unless it transfers wealth
according to the desires of the neocons. I get the policy. Pick at and kill the leftist leaders with rumor and innuendo. Keep at them. Scare corporations from being involved.

And for god's sake - keep the bicycles from being sent to Iran!!

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:32 PM
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23. A threat to the American students at the "Baby Doc Medical School"
(made famous in Doonesbury)
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:13 PM
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9. Chavez is certainly a danger to U.S. Corporate Hegemony
But why is that a bad thing?
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:26 PM
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10. Always makes me nervous when generals talk about democracy
And Latin Americans have certain bad experiences as well with these military types.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:47 PM
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14. Generals make me nervous.
Period.
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:10 PM
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17. Maybe Latin America will be ready for this next round
And Latin Americans have certain bad experiences as well with these military types.


They were badly burned in the 80's and they haven't forgotten. Chavez speaks to the heart of the people who are tired of being taken advantage of. Only the 'elite upper class' is going to be supportive of anything the US government wants to do anywhere in Central and South America. Vigilance, Latin brothers!!
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:17 PM
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19. The question that will decide thier fate is this,
how many times will the people of the US and or the rest of the world put up with the US slaughtering people, because the US will eventually get around to doing it if nobody stops them.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:36 PM
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13. He forgot to add "But we'll buy their oil, no questions asked."
This reminds me of the hysteria over Nicaragua in the 1980's.

Anyone seen the film Invasion USA?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:22 PM
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21. Or the hysteria over Cuba, Grenada, Costa Rica, Panama, Chile, Peru, Bol..
Every time the same fairy tale of an undeveloped country or populist movement in said country posing a threat to the US, the self admitted most powerful nation in the world.

Will the people of the US ever see the rediculousness of what theya re being told? It boggles the mind.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:07 PM
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16. Radical populism = democracy
Can't have any of that.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:42 PM
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28. Radical populism = Anxiety
The same anxiety that ole King George felt in 1776. How dare they presume that all men are created equal and want equal representation in government! ...we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our Sacred Honor. Radical populism in action. :)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:52 PM
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31. Indeed, for the neo-cons Democracy=Anxiety. n/t
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:16 PM
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18. Since when do generals make foreign policy?
Maybe he should just shut the fuck up.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:18 PM
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20. Its like having a plumber pick your meals. EOM
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:31 PM
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22. Support our troops!! !!!! If anyone says the military is not
complicit in the NeoCons agenda
then they need to read
this and about the Air force academy and the Gulag and Iraq and ...........

the list just keeps getting longer
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:34 PM
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24. I support President Chavez
Craddock can go fuck himself
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:14 AM
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37. Chavez is the kind of President we need here in the U.S.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:36 PM
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26. Venezuela vs. USA
Which country invaded and occupied another country based on "fixed" intelligence?

Which country detains its citizens indefinitely, without revealing the charges and without allowing legal counsel?

Which country sends citizens of a "friendly" nation abroad to be tortured?

Which country conducts surveillance of libraries and bookstores, and forbids these establishments from even revealing that surveillance was conducted?

Which country is a threat to the rest of the world?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:38 PM
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27. Oh wow! Nationalized industries! OH NOES!!!!111!11!1!!!1!!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:51 PM
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30. ROTFLMAO!!!
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 11:52 PM by LynnTheDem
"Venezuela is a Danger for the Hemisphere"...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

These moran rightwingnut crackpots crack me up! :D
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:04 AM
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32. This is the neocon method of "spreading democracy":
The interview with Craddock took place hours after he presided over the graduation ceremony of twenty-two Latin America officers in the...School for the Americas, located in Fort Benning, Georgia. The School for the Americas trained many of the most brutal military units in Latin America, which have been responsible for tens of thousands of murders, disappearances, torture, and rapes.

Train 'em up, send 'em in to shake things up, and voila! -- "democracy"! It's working really well in Iraq where the US have reconstituted the Iraqi secret police, the Mukhararat, ain't it? AIN'T IT??

The thugs running the USA only know real democracy as something to be blown into a million tiny pieces...along with the people.

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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:41 AM
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33. "radical populism"
This guy must want Bush to give him that congressional medal - just like Bremer and Tenet. Oh yeah - and Nancy Reagan.

These idiots are just begging for a little "radical populism" for their very own.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:42 AM
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34. What military contractor does he work for?
:eyes:
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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:00 AM
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35. The majority of our oil comes from Venezuela not Saudi Arabia
Makes for an interesting reason to "stabilize" the government
http://www.garynorth.com/y2k/detail_.cfm/7053
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:14 AM
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36. We need to watch this carefully. I don't trust Bush where Chavez is
concerned.
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