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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:45 PM
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The failed siege of Fallujah (cholera, no reconstruction, no funds)
The failed siege of Fallujah
By Dahr Jamail

AMMAN, Jordan - After two devastating sieges of Fallujah in April and November of 2004, which left thousands of Iraqis dead and hundreds of thousands without homes, the aftermath of the US attempt to rid the city of resistance fighters in an effort to improve security in the country continues to plague the residents of Fallujah, and Iraq as a whole.

Simmering anger grows with time among Fallujans who, after having most of their city destroyed by the US military onslaught, have seen promises of rebuilding by both the US military and Iraqi government remain mostly unfulfilled.

"There are daily war crimes being committed in Fallujah, even now," said Mohammed Abdulla, the executive director of the Study Center for Human Rights and Democracy in Fallujah (SCHRDF). His organization works within the destruction of Fallujah, trying to monitor the plight of residents, bring them reconstruction aid, and document the war crimes and illegal weapons that were used during the November siege.

"Now we have none of the rebuilding which was promised, which people need so desperately in order to get their lives back in order," said Abdulla during a recent interview with Asia Times Online in Amman.

(more)

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GF03Ak01.html

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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:52 PM
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1. What he said....
<snipped from the originally linked article>
"The Americans have committed a very big massacre to the people of Fallujah. The crime of Fallujah is the greatest crime ever," Abdulla said sternly. "This will remain as a black spot in American history forever. Whatever the American people will do, even if they get rid of those liars who are in their government, they will need a long time for people to forget what they have done in Iraq and in Fallujah in order for us to deal with them as a civilized people who have humanity."
<snip>

:cry:
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 09:11 PM
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9. Impeachment would go a long way
restoring the U.S.'s image, let them know we are not all warmongers.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:55 PM
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2. But I read the soldiers were passing out Frisbees to the little kidees...
...just the other day in Fallujah? What gives here?

Don

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:56 PM
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3. No, no. It was a big success! Just like Operation Lightning!
"We killed a bunch of insurgents, so it's a success! They've killed a bunch of us, so we've killed a bunch of them. Everything is a big success! Bunches of killing all around!"

BIG SUCCESS

/sarcasm
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 05:51 PM
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4. I could not even finish reading it!
It is so unspeakably horrible what the USA has done to these poor people!

fuck fuck fuck

:cry:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 05:52 PM
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5. Cholera. The siege weapon that keeps on killing.
Edited on Fri Jun-03-05 05:52 PM by leveymg
A contagious biotic infection that comes from the bacteria in decomposing bodies leaching into the watertable.

As a reward for all their hard work, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al. have earned a spa vacation there to take the healing waters. Four stars. :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 09:13 PM
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10. The Bush family vacation
George could take his "little girl" too.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 05:55 PM
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6. Freedom on the March sure uses big boots, don't it?
Somebody's bound to get stepped on (as usual, the wrong people).
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 05:58 PM
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7. Failed seige...
...failed war, failed occupation, failed policies, failed the country, probably failed first grade. This president and his administration are failures full stop.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:10 PM
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8. But remember the John Stewart show
You can't just be a failure in the * administration -- you have to be a colossal failure.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 09:20 PM
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11. I have a question for anyone brave enough to answer it..................
Would a just and fair God let us Americans win this war? Here's my answer NO.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:51 AM
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15. Why assume God is "just and fair"?
Just because his book claims it -- against many of the facts.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 09:50 PM
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12. 60% of houses/buildings sustained enough damage to make them inhabitable
"60% of the houses and buildings inside the city sustained enough damage to make them inhabitable."

...


"The Americans have committed a very big massacre to the people of Fallujah. The crime of Fallujah is the greatest crime ever," Abdulla said sternly. "This will remain as a black spot in American history forever. Whatever the American people will do, even if they get rid of those liars who are in their government, they will need a long time for people to forget what they have done in Iraq and in Fallujah in order for us to deal with them as a civilized people who have humanity."


Fallujah = our NANKING :cry:

peace
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:13 AM
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13. ...
:cry:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:59 AM
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14. America has disgraced herself...
And so many American don't even know it yet. And we are accused of "overreacting".
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:53 AM
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:54 AM
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17. How is this a failed siege?
Since when do we pretend that the point of sieges is to help people?

It looks to me like our military has been wildly successful, they wanted to destroy a city and they did. They wanted to make an example of falluja to terrorize the rest of Iraq, and they did.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:12 PM
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18. I would argue that "terrorize" is the wrong word to use....
...I would tend to use the term "anger".
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:24 PM
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19. Do you have any reasoning to back up that argument?
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 12:27 PM by K-W
This is textbook terrorism. We used an isolated incident of extreme violence to intimidate the entire population.

The anger involved is irrelevant, it is fear we are trying to propegate, anger is a side effect.
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LuPeRcALiO Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:58 PM
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22. because it didn't work.
The point was to pacify the resistance, which they obviously failed to do. The sham "rebuilding" promises are beside the point.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:42 PM
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20. "Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind."
Hosea 8



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Total Disaster Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:47 PM
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21. We had to destroy it to save it. n/t
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