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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:09 PM
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(Jeb) signs bill regulating abortion clinics ("with pride and conviction")
http://www.winktv.com/x466.xml?URL=http://localhost/APWIREFEED/d8aeeb6g1.xml

Bush signs bill increasing regulation of abortion clinics
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By JACKIE HALLIFAX Associated Press Writer
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The Associated Press
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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. Gov. Jeb Bush signed a bill Tuesday increasing state oversight of abortion clinics that provide second-trimester abortions, saying he did so "gladly, with pride and conviction."

Bush said the new law wasn't related to his anti-abortion views but he later added that he was motivated, in part, by his desire "to create a culture of life in our state."

(snip)

The new law, which takes effect July 1, will cover any abortion clinic that provides second-trimester abortions. The bill doesn't spell out the exact regulations but gives the state Agency for Health Care Administration directions on writing new rules covering a clinic's building, equipment and staffing, the procedure itself and post-abortion care. The agency is drafting regulations.

complete story: http://www.winktv.com/x466.xml?URL=http://localhost/APWIREFEED/d8aeeb6g1.xml

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:10 PM
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1. Keep that word in mind, Jeb!:
Conviction.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:12 PM
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2. Why don't they spend some of that time, money and energy on the kids
that are floating around in Florida's foster care program? So worried about children not born, but can care less about them once they get here. They can stick that culture of life bullshit up their ass.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:21 PM
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9. They Do!
They use parental-notification statutes so that their bureaucrats
can assert "parental" rights to stop those kids from having abortions.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:33 PM
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11. And so they can have more kids lost in the foster care system. Oh, now
I get it! It's like a production line thing.

:nuke:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:59 PM
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13. Of course.
Anything for more soldiers.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:13 PM
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20. Ain't that the very sad truth. nt
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:10 AM
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21. The FL DCF Head Just Tried to Force a 13-year Old Girl to Bear a Child
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 12:12 AM by AndyTiedye
"Parental rights" for someone in foster care seems to mean any
bureaucrat who wants to score another point for the Dominion.

Fortunately, the judge wasn't having any of it. This time.

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State can't bar 13-year-old's abortion, judge rules
By Kathleen Chapman
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 03, 2005

WEST PALM BEACH — A judge has refused to allow the state to stop the abortion of a 13-year-old foster child, two sources said Monday.
Ronald Alvarez, Palm Beach County Juvenile Court judge, issued the ruling Monday morning, a week after the state Department of Children and Families asked him to permanently block the girl from ending her pregnancy. ...

The 13-year-old, known as L.G., became pregnant after running from a state group home in January. She is living in a Palm Beach County shelter.

In a hearing before Alvarez on Thursday, she said she didn't feel she could raise a baby.
"I don't think I should have the baby because I'm 13, I'm in a shelter and I can't get a job," she said.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2005/05/03/m1a_abortion_0503.html

(this one from the google cache, the original is gone)

The head of the Florida Department of Children and Families personally decided that her agency should go to court to stop a 13-year-old foster child from having an abortion.

DCF Secretary Lucy Hadi reviewed the case and felt she could not allow the girl to end the pregnancy before notifying a juvenile court judge, Marilyn Munoz, spokeswoman for the agency in Palm Beach County, said Friday.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:nsxq0Sq88CcJ:www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/news/epaper/2005/04/30/m1a_dcf_0430.html+florida+foster+abortion+court&hl=en&client=firefox-a
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:13 PM
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3. But just think how much longer it will take to purge all these
new voters from the rolls come election time! What is he thinking!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:13 PM
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4. The Culture Of Life-When Men Are Dying Everyday in Iraq and
Afghanistan and you aholes are worried about the culture of life. Biggest play on words I have ever seen....
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:17 PM
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5. Culture of Life?
What about all of the recently sexually molested and murdered children in the state of Florida lately? Maybe the money spent regulating these clinics would be better suited in investigating the increasing child related crimes in that state!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:18 PM
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6. "increasing oversight"? What are the oversight rules now?
I'm not part of the med community so I have no idea what kind of regulations clinics of any kind have to follow. Obviously the word "increasing" means there are current regulations on these clinics. What are they?
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:07 PM
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15. They passed so many regulations that it is going to be very
very hard for clinics to meet all of them. Get it? Environmental regs bad; abortion regs good. Got it?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:18 PM
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7. Pride goeth before the fall.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:21 PM
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8. "...to create a culture of life in our state."
That sounds very anti-choice to me, Jeb...
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:22 PM
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10. Then he should suspend the Death Penalty immediately
No more should he "tinker with the machinery of death"
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:35 PM
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12. Sounds rather like a blank check law?
They passed a law giving directions on writing new rules? This does not sound like a very good law.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:00 PM
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14. What happened to less government regulation?
Get the government off our backs so we can make our own decisions. I guess that only applies to polluting and screwing over workers.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:54 PM
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16. Theocratic Government in the making
Edited on Tue May-31-05 07:55 PM by Erika
They want to control every detail of our lives so we don't do anything that disagrees with their twisted sense of morality.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:05 PM
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17. Kiss an Abortion goodbye Thanks to the Chimp family. Back Alley
style Abortions, bust out the coat hangers, Thanks a bunch Chimp family.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:18 PM
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19. Next, they'll make boiling coathangers a capital offense.
Wouldn't want a woman to actually have a sterile instrument. Rather have her die from a punctured uterus or an infection if that doesn't happen.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:10 PM
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23. Whatever it takes to save the child they will tell you.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:27 PM
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25. Yeah, and save the child for what?
For a life under their oppressive domination?:puke:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:30 PM
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26. And then next they will outlaw
metal coathangers altogether.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:37 PM
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18. "culture of life"
Hey nazi Jeb, if you really want to show a "culture of life", try universal healthcare for all FL residents. Yeah, that'll happen. </sarcasm>
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:58 AM
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22. kick
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:20 PM
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24. Majority of 2nd Trimester Abortions
are wanted pregnancies, but are done for fetal deformities which don't show up until later. So Mr. Bush wants to add to the emotional pain of these women? This has to be a very difficult decision for them to make without adding to it. Or do Jebbie and his Right to Life clan think that these babies MUST be born? What about the cases of fetuses without a brain? The woman would have to go through 9 months of pregnancy to deliver a baby that can only live minutes? How cruel is that - for BOTH of them.
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:19 PM
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27. logic, schmogic
Of course this is a riduculous, anti-women, anti-humanity move.

Represents Jeblubber pumping up his phony religious credentials for a run in '08. :puke: :puke: :puke:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:38 PM
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28. The Liberal St. Pete Times likes the law,,, only question how Jeb will
enforce it.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/06/02/Opinion/For_safer_abortions.shtml

For safer abortions

If properly enforced, the "Women's Health and Safety Act" will bring medical protections to women undergoing second-trimester abortions.

A Times Editorial
Published June 2, 2005

The abortion opponents who surrounded Gov. Jeb Bush as he signed the "Women's Health and Safety Act" on Tuesday were evidence enough of the political motivations at play. Abortion clinic regulations, after all, have been struck down in the past by courts that found them to be a backdoor attempt at shutting clinics altogether.

Mischievous intent, though, doesn't always lead to bad law.

The bill that Bush signed sets up a regulatory framework to apply basic medical standards only to clinics that provide second-trimester abortions, which covers roughly half the state's 65 clinics. Clearly, an abortion at six months involves greater risk than one at two months, particularly a risk of hemorrhage. A Tampa physician told reporters that University Community Hospital admitted 37 women in the last six months of 2004 for abortion complications, most of them involving second-trimester cases

..cut...

The Agency for Health Care Administration is now directed to promulgate the safety rules, and that's where the real test may begin. Though the law says new rules "may not impose an unconstitutional burden on a woman's freedom to decide whether to terminate her pregnancy," the regulators may have other ideas in mind.
...more at link...

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