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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:54 PM
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Bush calls for quick vote on UN envoy
26 minutes ago



WASHINGTON (AFP) - President George W. Bush expressed frustration at delays in the Senate holding up his controversial candidate to become the new US ambassador to the United Nations.


Bush condemned "stall tactics" used by opposition Democrats to hold up a Senate vote on the confirmation of John Bolton, who has been accused of bullying staff and putting pressure on analysts to change intelligence to fit his political agenda.

"We need to get our ambassador to the United Nations to help start reforming that important organization," Bush told a White House press conference.

"The reason I picked Bolton is he's a no-nonsense kind of fellow who can get things done. And we need to get something done in the United Nations.

"This is an organization which is important, it can help a lot in terms of the democracy movement. It can help deal with conflict and civil war. But it's an organization that is beginning to lose the trust of the American people ... and therefore we need to restore that trust."

~snip~
more: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050531/pl_afp/usunbushbolton_050531172749
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:55 PM
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1. All he has to do is give the senate the info they're requesting.
Then Bolton will get his vote.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:59 PM
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2. Touche!
:shrug:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:59 PM
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3. sounds reasonable to me
:D Do the repub's have the votes?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:01 PM
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A LOT of repugs don't want to vote for this guy
but will out of fear of retribution.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:10 PM
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8. Who's stalling, George?
Just release the rest of Mr. Bolton's file to the Senate so they can make an informed vote on the totality of his record, and you'll know whether he's confirmed or not.

You do want the Senate to proffer their advice and consent on a fully informed basis, do you not?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:00 PM
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4. O cry me a friggin river
He always gets what he wants. What an asswipe.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:01 PM
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5. did someone say "stall"?
Bush Global Warming Plan a Stall, Say Critics by Stephen Leahy

BROOKLIN, Canada -- The Bush administration announced a new 10-year plan Thursday to study the ”uncertainty” around global climate change--instead of taking action to fix it, scientists and environmentalists say. ”The Bush administration is using the scientific uncertainty around climate change to delay taking concrete actions in reducing its greenhouse gas emissions,” Steven Guilbeault, a political advisor to Greenpeace International, told IPS. ”It's clear to everyone that this is a delaying action,” he said.

State AG fears Bush could stall PCBs cleanup By Matt Smith

Albany – The state's attorney general claimed yesterday the Bush administration was considering a limited dredging project on the Hudson River, which could stall the historic waterway's cleanup for years. "This is a very disappointing development, but it is not unexpected given the Bush administration's deplorable (environmental) record," said Attorney General Eliot Spitzer. "Anything less than a comprehensive cleanup is simply unacceptable."

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The CIA produced a report on the handling of Intelligence before and after 9/11. This reports seems to point to senior administration people. So that's probably the reason that it's still not out in the open. Even the requests of members of Congress won't help.
No surprise of course, mister Bush and his neocons want to stall this till after the elections.

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On January 20, 2001, the first batch (68,000 pages) of Reagan's papers, mostly notes from meetings with advisers and internal White House memos, came up for routine release. It should have come off without a hitch--after all, presidential libraries have for years been releasing documents informally. But the new Bush Administration, fresh from its own Florida election controversy, took advantage of a PRA clause allowing a thirty-day presidential consultation, and thus began what turned into a grand stall. By last August, half a year had passed and still nothing had been released.

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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:07 PM
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6. He speaks of the UN as if they were a union...
"the importance" is a phrase he used in factories across the nation during his campaign all the while supporting the disbanding of unions and wholesale sell off of American jobs.

John Bolton is there to dismantle the UN from the inside. The only way the UN is losing ground with the American people is through a fairly heavy anti-UN propoganda campaign headed by John Bolton.

Bush is a fuckwad.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:09 PM
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7. Why do these guys keep saying "reform the UN" like it's
a given? Yet I can't remember any of them ever definining what kind of reform they have in mind. Yeah, we can come up with a pretty fair guess of what they mean but it drives me crazy how the word/rationalization is just accepted without question as it flows down the Bushco>Frist>RW Media>slack-jawed freeper bullshit conveyer belt.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:13 PM
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10. the old trick of the fait accompli (that's'm Frenchee-tawk!)
always assume something completely nuts is a given and an absolute good and necessity: Hitler and Czechoslovakia, Thatcher and world deregulation/privatization
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:18 PM
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11. reform=dissassembling in Bushtalk.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:39 PM
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13. ....tis kind of like the term "regime change"
Just another way to say "Plunder"
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:55 PM
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15. UN isn't OURS to reform
Why it is call the United NATIONS. What they want is an organization that is a rubber stamp for the US.

If they cannot get that, then they want to take it down, with Bolton as the catalyst for doing so.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:56 PM
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16. Yeah, why doesn't anyone ask him
what he means by "reforming the UN". Bush wouldn't know what to answer, because he knows nothing about the UN except that Dick has said it's bad they are going to destroy it.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:55 PM
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22. Yeah - do they really think some asswipe like Bolton will make any
difference at all in the U.N.? It sure won't persuade anyone there that the Iraq invasion violates the U.N. Charter. And Bolton sure won't be able to persuade anyone to support another illegal U.S. invasion of another country. All the appointment of Bolton will do will be to increase the amount of Anti-American feeling not only in the U.N. but around the world. It will alienate our allies even further.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:12 PM
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9. Frank Burns eats worms.
Bush constantly reminds me of Larry Linville's cowardly, narrow-minded, cruel character.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:49 PM
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21. That's a great analogy, Onehandle
The Dems should push this one. Hard.
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:31 PM
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12. Bolton is that turd that just won't flush....
Come on, porgy, pick someone to represent us at the UN with more credibility than John Bolton. What's Oliver North up to? Or is the fact that he's a convicted felon a problem?
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:53 PM
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14. Stall, really now stall... this guy cracks me up!
John Bolton needs to have a criminal investigation by an independent body upon him. Mr. Bush Jr. is just standing there saying, "...if you don't play my way, I will take the ball and go home...". John Bolton comes with some heavy baggage, like fixing the intelligence to be able justify the Iraq war policy.

Dear Mr. Bush Jr.,

This is not personal, but your policies stink and so do the people you keep in your company. You are not being stalled but investigated, and if you do not like it, change your policies if you are able to do so. Otherwise look forward to an impeachment.

Sincerely,

A Concerned Citizen
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:23 PM
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17. I want to see him rolling on the floor, kicking and screaming like
a two year old.
That is about the mentality here.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:03 PM
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18. "reforming" the UN is code for dismantling it.
They want Bolton to do the deed.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:33 PM
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19. Bush is in the hurry to get Bolton in the UN so he take us into another
WAR... He is always crying when he doesn't get his way.
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:43 PM
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20. Since when is the UN an important organization to Chimpazoid?
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:02 PM
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23. When He Is Trying To Fuck It Up
That's when.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:40 PM
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24. Billy O'Connor calls for quick vote on chimpeachment.
No. Really. I mean it.

Bolton will get laughed out of the General Assembly building, I wouldn't be that hot to get him on the job if I were *.

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:27 PM
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25. NYT- Bush Hints He Will Withhold Further Data About Bolton
By RICHARD W. STEVENSON
Published: June 1, 2005
WASHINGTON, May 31 - President Bush criticized Senate Democrats on Tuesday for "stalling" a vote on John R. Bolton's nomination as ambassador to the United Nations, and indicated that he would not grant them access to intelligence documents they have demanded to see before allowing the confirmation to go ahead.

Amnesty International 2005 Report Mr. Bush's statements, at a news conference in the Rose Garden, suggested that he was intent on winning the battle over Mr. Bolton on his own terms when the Senate reconvenes next week, rather than negotiating a deal with Democrats and some Republicans who have been advocating a compromise.

Democrats delayed a vote on the nomination on Thursday night, saying they wanted access to classified information about Mr. Bolton's conduct that the administration has refused for weeks to provide.

"Now in terms of the requests for the documents, I view that as just another stall tactic," Mr. Bush said, "another way to delay, another way not to allow Bolton to get an up or down vote."

~snip~
more: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/01/politics/01prexy.html
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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26. Bush Hints He Will Withhold Other Papers on Bolton
Calls Democrats' request a "stall tactic."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/01/politics/01prexy.html?th&emc=th

By RICHARD W. STEVENSON
Published: June 1, 2005

WASHINGTON, May 31 - President Bush criticized Senate Democrats on Tuesday for "stalling" a vote on John R. Bolton's nomination as ambassador to the United Nations, and indicated that he would not grant them access to intelligence documents they have demanded to see before allowing the confirmation to go ahead.

-snip-
Democrats delayed a vote on the nomination on Thursday night, saying they wanted access to classified information about Mr. Bolton's conduct that the administration has refused for weeks to provide.

"Now in terms of the requests for the documents, I view that as just another stall tactic," Mr. Bush said, "another way to delay, another way not to allow Bolton to get an up or down vote."

Democrats gave no indication they would back down. "Mr. Bolton's fate lies with the president," said Jim Manley, the spokesman for Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader. "If he agrees to turn over the requested information about his nominee, then Mr. Bolton will get his up or down vote. The Senate is entitled to the information. It's really that simple."

-more-
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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27. If he's so good for the job, why not just allow them to see?
Now who's the obstructionist, Commander Cuckoo Bananas!
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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28. Commander Cuckoo Bananas is very secretive
about nearly everything. It'd make any thinking person think that he has something (lots) to hide.

Unfortunately, there appear to be a lot of non-thinking persons in the USA today. And among those who call themselves "journalists."
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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29. At least one part of our checks-and-balance system is growing a spine.
The dems have been impressing me lately (many of them, at least). This is one thing they need to NOT back down from.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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32. The Dems cannot give in on this.
It's not a situation for compromise. Go get 'em Reid, Boxer and Kerry!

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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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30. adding to the republican phrase of the month
"Up or down vote" seems to be teh phrase of the month. Now lets add to it "stall tactic".

If the media says it often enough. . .they don't need to verify it is true just verify it was said by the president. ..then the rest of the country will swallow it whole.

It doesn't matter WHAT documents are being requested or what the position being filled is--just us the phrases given you by Rove and the sheep will fall in line and the democrats will cave.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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35. Seems to me the stalling is coming from the WH on this...
They're the ones stalling to release the documents, thus they're the ones stalling the vote.

Rp
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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36. Yes, that seems to be their winning strategy--
repeating empty phrases over and over until we think of them in our sleep. I wonder if we don't come up with them because we actually HAVE intellect, and can discuss our point of view with more than a few words.


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.15676271
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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31. The papers will show U.S. companies who violated sanctions
And it's a safe bet many of the companies were GOP contributors.


The information that the White House has refused to provide to Congress for its review into the nomination of John R. Bolton includes the names of American companies mentioned in intelligence reports on commerce with China and other countries covered by export restrictions, according to government officials who have been briefed on the matter.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/01/politics/01bolton.html?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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33. Impeach now. nt
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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34. Why doesn't this shitwit
just declare himself fucking king already, enough with the pretense that we are a democratic republic.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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37. So, the up and down refrain has replaced "playing partisan politcs?"
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 09:37 AM by donkeyotay
Bush is the one who is stalling. Bush is the petulant emperor declaring that he and he alone runs our government.

Give us an up or down vote on impeachment!

:nuke:

edited for trying to type when I'm really pissed!

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:34 AM
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38. And what's in those papers Bush won't release?
It wouldn't have anything to do with certain companies, companies that might be major Republican campaign donors, doing business with the bad ol' axis of evil, would it?

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004522.php

You know, with all this nostalgia for Deep Throat and talk about reporters using a lot shoe leather running down sources and following leads, maybe (maybe, maybe, maybe) there's some young, intrepid reporter who would like to make a Woodsteinian name for himself or herself ferreting out the corruption of the Bush administration.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:45 AM
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39. So many possible links
Let's see, there's Sibel Edmonds, who specifically talked about illegal arms dealings; there's the Office of the So-very Special Plans, and Feith's leaving to spend more time with his family?; then there's the investigation loosely defined as the Larry Sullivan investigation, which was put on hold until after the election.....

So much to make Americans wonder about why so much of our government business is taking place behind closed doors. Is it really national security they are protecting or the misdeeds of this administration?

They have so much to answer for.

I want an up or down vote on impeachment.
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UTdem Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:56 AM
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40. Up or Down
"Up or down vote" is totally the catch phrase of the month. Sen. Hatch gave me his reply to my anti-Bolton letter and it used that statement ad nauseum.

But at least his lackeys are nice enough to invite me to share my opinions, "even though our opinions differ on this topic".

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