Bush blasts Amnesty report on Guantanamo (it's absurd)

[sabra]

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8046041/

Bush blasts Amnesty report on Guantanamo
President says document is an ‘absurd report’

The Associated Press
Updated: 11:24 a.m. ET May 31, 2005

WASHINGTON - A human rights group's report about conditions at the U.S. military's prison at Guantanamo Bay is "absurd," President Bush told reporters Tuesday.

The Amnesty International report, released last week, said prisoners at the U.S. Navy base had been mistreated and called for the prison to be shut down.

The president, addressing a news conference at the White House, said the Amnesty document was an “absurd report.”

He said the allegations were based on interviews with detainees, who hated America and were trained to lie.

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[Richardo]

1. And they differ from you *how*?

"...who hated America and were trained to lie."

[Lerkfish]

3. why are we torturing them for info, if they're "trained to lie"?

that would be monumentally stoopid....oh...yeah, right. gotcha.

[maddezmom]

2. that's what they all said about Abu Ghraib

:puke:

[CatWoman]

4. wonder how long he had to practice saying "absurb"?

[Kadie]

5. snort

coffee on keyboard... :spray:

[n2doc]

6. Someone needs to look back in the past

And match this with the quotes that came from various and sundry 3rd world dictators each time they were condemned for rights abuses. I remember that this was a fairly typical pattern, AI would come out with their report, and the leaders of Singapore/Uganda/Sudan/etc. would come out with a statement saying that they "never" would do such a thing, that everything they did was legit. Would be an interesting comparison....

Welcome to the 3rd world Junta club, USA!

[ticapnews]

33. Also to see if Shrub and his cronies used Amnesty International...

reports to justify the invasion of Iraq. Would expose (once again) his hypocrisy.

Unfortunately, to the America First, Last and Only crowd, it really doesn't matter.

[aquart]

7. The Bush legacy is torture.

I would be surprised if he didn't watch videotapes of it as home movies.

[DoYouEverWonder]

38. That's why W had to sit there and look like an idiot on 9-11

He was so excited that he popped a boner and couldn't get up.

[xxqqqzme]

8. yellow rogue of texass

has not been 'trained' to lie - it is an inherited gene.

[dArKeR]

9. Do you think a reporter would show aWol my collage? Warning graphic.

[rocktivity]

10. When he's willing and able to say it's UNTRUE

you can wake me up.

:boring:
rocknation

[Jack Rabbit]

11. Bush hates the Constituion and international law and lies all the time

I'll take Amnesty's word over his without question.

[Generator]

12. Bush Calls Human Rights Report "Absurd"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050531/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush


WASHINGTON - President Bush on Tuesday dismissed a human rights report as "absurd" for its harsh criticism of U.S. treatment of terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, saying the allegations were made by prisoners "who hate America."

"It's an absurd allegation. The United States is a country that promotes freedom around the world," Bush said of the Amnesty International report that compared Guantanamo to a Soviet-era gulag.

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Read the rest. Everything he says is outright fantasy.I had to post this for the title.

[Supersedeas]

55. Human Rights? Not on his watch....not in his war....next kestion.

[Pachamama]

58. My favorite comment about the "Progress in Iraq":

....Bush denied any increase of strength in the Iraqi insurgency, whose deadly attacks have been on the rise since a new government was announced April 28. He said the Iraqi government would be "plenty capable of dealing with them" with the help of American training. "I'm pleased with the progress," Bush said.

NOTE: My Uncle just returned from Iraq, his second stint there in the last year where he was being paid big bucks to "train" the Iraqi troops and police...Guess what? He's been asked/begged to return - no can do...not for any amount of money...only way they are getting him back is if they forceably strap him into a C130 and take him there...

So, how again does the Dimwit called the President think that "with the help of American training" that they are going to be able to improve things there? Someone better get a memo to the idiot that even the trainers are not willing to go train...

[Roland99]

13. "Absurd" describes this entire administration

They sure are on the "offensive" re: this report, aren't they? I think this will result in more people seeing the emperor has no clothes.

[bemildred]

14. "Surreal" maybe, but true. What's "absurd" is that he is pResident. nt

[Tempest]

15. The truth hurts

Peering through a mirror darkly.

[LibDemAlways]

16. It's absurd that the chimp would

try to defend the BFEE on this one when the whole world saw how the US treats prisoners via the Abu Ghraib photos - and all we saw were the mild ones.

The ones who truly hate America and are trained to lie are named Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rice, and all who do their bidding.

[journalist3072]

17. What an ass he is!

He makes me want to pull my hair out! He's not even taking these allegations seriously!

[UCLA Dem]

18. Yes, Amnesty "hates" America. He's absurd. Shithead.

[oxbow]

19. Where are the prominent Democrats speaking out against this?

So far, I've heard Cheney and Bush give their two cents, but nobody to back up AI's claims. Where's Dean? Where's Kerry?

[jasmeel]

25. I agree Oxbow! I'm sick of this waiting and watching thing the

dems are doing. Let's act! I emailed my senators about this. We'll see what they say.

[Jack Rabbit]

26. Under their desks in a duck and cover drill

. . . as usual.

[librechik]

39. What, and interrupt the "Deep Throat " feeding frenzy?

not very likely any Dems will be allowed to speak now. Media have important stuff from 30 years ago to rehash.

[UCLA Dem]

20. Like he's not trained to lie.

[Jack Rabbit]

21. You're right. He's a natural born liar

Just look at his pedigree.

[noiretextatique]

22. hmmm....who hates america and was trained to lie?

funny how much he always reveals about himself.

[Roland99]

23. LOVE to hear a reporter ask *: "Mr. President. Why do you hate America?"

[confludemocrat]

24. This really got to them,

but will the media test the categoricalness of his absurd claim that the report is absurd? I wish there was an international "America Watch" that could issue reports on other Bush destructive initiatives in the world. They would have to be denying on a weekly or daily basis.

[donkeyotay]

27. Clever end game that going straight to the "a" word. Match over!

How could critics of the administration ever hope to surmount this blistering characterization with mere facts? Their case has crumpled under the onslaught of the emperor's finding.

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

Oops, maybe that was the Red Queen...

[OKthatsIT]

28. Bush couldn't blast a TOAD off a fense with a shotgun

the words the stupid MSM uses

[burythehatchet]

29. they were trained to lie, you were born to lie, George

[izzybeans]

30. Pot calls kettle....uhmmm transparent? The king has decreed

and it be so.

[Up2Late]

31. MAYBE He's Right?

:spray: :hide: Maybe he just used the Wrong WORD again. What I mean is, if you look up Absurd in the Thesaurus, one of the first Synonyms you see to absurd is Senseless, as in, "The senseless torture and detention without trial..."

Now, I'm not one of those folks that say "he's not as dumb as he plays...," but most of his puppet masters are Evil Geniuses, a lot of what he says can easily be twisted and spun to something that makes sense.:evilgrin:

[Placebo]

32. Allegations were made by prisoners "who hate America."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050531/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

"It's an absurd allegation. The United States is a country that promotes freedom around the world."

I hang my head in shame over the fact that this man is our President.

[Up2Late]

34. It really is Proof-positive that their is NO God...

...at least not the RW/Fundi type, because God would have struck him dead long ago if their was.

[demo dutch]

36. His time will come! I firmly believe that

[thecai]

54. GOD Honors HIS Promise of Giving Us a Free Will...

...to choose good or evil. Otherwise, GOD would strike all evil people dead. But it's true "His time will come".
"Be not deceived, GOD will not be mocked; for whatsoever you sow, you will reap." Galations 6 : 7.
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!

[smoogatz]

35. It's not exactly a denial, is it?

It's just Bushco--once again--attacking the source of criticism instead of addressing the substance. It's a very legalistic response. It's a very, very bad sign for any supposedly democratic government to find themselves seriously at odds with Amnesty, whose only agenda is ferreting out and exposing institutionalized torture. They're as close to unimpeachable as such organizations get--you certainly can't fault them for having a political bias.

As a side note--except for Tony Blair, Vicente Fox, our puppet regimes in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the bloodthirsty dictator of Uzbekistan, with what government or international institution ISN'T Bush having a public feud?

[trapper914]

59. Appropriately timed

With all the Deep Throat chatter, I couldn't help but be reminded of a scene from "All The President's Men." In the film, there's actual news footage of Spiro Agnew reacting to a Woodward and Bernstein report...same song and dance "non-denial denial" routine they're doing today...it's outrageous...it's absurd...you must consider the source. Agnew didn't say it was untrue. Rummy didn't say it was untrue. Bush...aw shit...who cares what he did or didn't say!

[Chicago Democrat]

37. President Ass can't admit ANY MISTAKES! (He's perfect you know)

HAHAHHAHAHA


What a LOSER...

[IndianaGreen]

40. Bush is treated like one of the Roman Divine Emperors

It is only a matter of time before we are required to offer burn offerings to his image.

[Disturbed]

41. The Red Cross has reported similar incidents.

The Bush Regime would be on trial for War Crimes if other nations had the courage to bring charges to the Intl. Court. Of course, the Bush Regime does not recoognize that court.

[IndianaGreen]

43. And unfortunately we don't have legal standing to sue Justice Department

for not prosecuting Bush for war crimes.

[iverglas]

56. I know you folks get distressed ...

The Bush Regime would be on trial
for War Crimes if other nations had
the courage to bring charges to the
Intl. Court/

But really ... no. It isn't the fault of all the rest of us that the people of the US elected George W. Bush, and he could not likely be prosecuted in the International Criminal Court in any event.

Now, when he shows up in Canada, for instance, he can be arrested and charged and tried for war crimes and/or crimes against humanity in one of our very own Canadian criminal courts. Our Criminal Code assigns jurisdiction over such crimes, even outside Canada, to Canadian courts. But our own Attorney General has to authorize such charges, and sorry, but that's just not likely to happen. I mean, if you guys won't prosecute your own criminal politicians, it's not surprising that we aren't going to do it either.

But US federal law does the same thing, at least in respect of US nationals and members of the US military (Bush being both, I gather):
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18/parts/i/chapters/118/sections/section_2441.html

Section 2441. War crimes

(a) Offense. - Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.

(b) Circumstances. - The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).

(c) Definition. - As used in this section the term "war crime" means any conduct - ...

How 'bout torture? http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18/parts/i/chapters/113c/toc.html

The International Criminal Court is a court of last resort, where there is no national court competent to hear the case, or where the country which would otherwise have jurisdiction refuses to exercise it. No one is likely to be delivered to the ICC from such a country (e.g. Bush from the US), which has to be done if there is to be an ICC trial, so someone would have to nab him while he's abroad.

As IndianaGreen says, too bad nobody has any way of getting the charges laid domestically in the US, where Bush gives the orders in question. But no more would any of us have any way of getting our own Attorneys General and the like to do it.

Yes, it would be nice if the US weren't so rich and mighty that no one (at least no one where Bush would ever go) will ever attempt to bring him to justice. But then a whole lot of things in this world would be nicer if the US weren't so rich and mighty.

[McCamy Taylor]

42. Gulag of Our Generation rolls off the tongue.

[arikara]

44. He never really knows what he is doing, does he?

"The president has got to push, he's got to keep leading"

Is he a-pushin', or is he a-pullin'?

[Binka]

45. He's Dr Doolittle With His Push Me Pull You

Dr DOO-Little fits him well. As he does shit. FUCKWITTAGE.

[Voltaire99]

46. Glad to see Amnesty leading the charge.

Now it's time for the Democratic Party leadership to start speaking up about abuses.

Silence facilitates Bushism.

[Supersedeas]

47. White is Black, Up is Down, 2 + 2 = 5 b/c * says so.

and the corporate media sings his praises.

[NightOwwl]

48. Bush and the "Culture of Life"...

“What you’re seeing is a group of frustrated and desperate people who kill innocent life and we obviously mourn the loss of every life, but I believe the Iraqi government is plenty capable of dealing with them,” Bush said at a Rose Garden news conference."

Translation:

Yeah, what the fuck...a lot of 'em are dying...but the fuckers are brown so who gives a shit...let 'em just kill each other off...I don't really give a fuck.

[lumpy]

49. Better the ass should keep his trap shut.

The truth is out there. The simpleton has no clue. He must really think the rest of the world is as ignorant as he is. I no longer am infuriated by his inane statements just disgusted that some people think the guy is for real.

[thecai]

50. Again, Bush Lies

Bush has ignored reports of inmate abuse/neglect/torture for years, right here in American Gulag jails and prisons, (including Texas while Bush was governor).
He's a liar. Good thing Amnesty International, et al, KNOW that already.

[Andrushka]

51. Do we need any more proof

that he is certifiably insane? Next press conference, I want to see him like this:

[Skypilot 18]

52. It's all absurd

Everything right from the git-go. The WMD's, the mushroom cloud, and all that other crap. Yep. They're correct. Everything that's happened since this Bozo made a bad name for clowns everywhere, has been totally absurd. Too bad the freak show circuit is a thing of the past. Because we sure have a bunch of freaks running this country. I'd pay a dollar to throw a banana at Cheney. So long as it was liquefied through a primate's ass.

[thecai]

53. "That's Not The American Way"

Quote Bush after Abu Ghraib was exposed. Which was definitely another lie, because we, The CAI - Coalition Against Injustice, et al, have reported worse abuse in American jails and prisons, for DECADES.
And just the day before Bush told this current lie, ("absurd report"), we had also emailed Bush, et al, about his ignoring abuse reports for years, including while he was Governor of Texas, one of the WORST states for inmate abuse/neglect/murder, and that we recommend Amnesty International to investigate and report on U.S. "Gulag" jails and prisons.
Bush is incapable of TRUTH.
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!

[thecai]

57. kick n/t

[Zhade]

60. "who hated America and were trained to lie."

He's sounding desperate.