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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 08:07 PM
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Chavez Reassures Venezuelans He Is OK
Edited on Mon May-30-05 08:08 PM by wakeme2008
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Venezuela-Chavez.html

Chavez Reassures Venezuelans He Is OK



By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: May 30, 2005

Filed at 8:48 p.m. ET

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- President Hugo Chavez appeared at a televised Cabinet meeting Monday and reassured worried supporters that he was fine and there was nothing to rumors that swirled around his disappearance from public view in recent days.

Chavez showed up for the meeting Monday afternoon, saying he had canceled his weekly radio and TV show Sunday and had gone to visit his 7-year-old daughter Rosines at her academy in the city of Barquisimeto in western Venezuela.

''Nothing has happened to me,'' Chavez said, laughing. ''Rosines had kidnapped me.''

.... more at link.....


See he was kidnapped by a 7 yo :rofl: So whatever RW site started this was right :)

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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 08:14 PM
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1. Watch your back Hugo the CIA is after you. Any leader who has spoken
out against Dictator Cuckoo-Bananas needs to worry about disappearance from public
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:42 PM
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50. Bush is now on notice that everyone is watching out for Chavez
This was big in both the U.S. and in Venezuela. If anything happens to Chavez, Americans will want answers, too.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 08:27 PM
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2. This seems very odd
With all the warnings he's given that he's at risk of being kidnapped or killed...he disappears for 3 days, misses public engagements, alarms the country, and then says he was just visiting his daughter?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 08:51 PM
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4. No a smart move on his part
Not good to tell Bush every place you are going to be. I am sure his staff knew

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:14 PM
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16. Chavez has been at least 3-4 steps ahead the NeoCon Junta....
...he knows exactly what he's saying and doing.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 09:25 PM
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8. He didn't disappear. A RW news source created fear and anxiety by
speculating that he was missing without doing any work to find out the truth.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 08:47 PM
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3. Glad to hear he's okay.
Hopefully he'll stay that way.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 09:01 PM
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5. Maybe thumbing his nose at Bush.
Along the lines of "see, my people miss me".

If Bush disappeared for three days, it would be a cause for celebration for the saner part of America, and the world.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:16 AM
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33. Nominating your post as the best yet!
Thank you! You just made my dream-day!

:pals:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:16 AM
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34. Nominating your post as the best yet!
Thank you! You just made my dream-day!

:pals:
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Sokrates Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 09:19 PM
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6. Chavez is no hero.
Chavez IS a demagogue and has weakened democracy in Brazil.

Just because he spouts left wing rhetoric doesn't mean he can't be a creep.

We should always be suspicious of these cult of personality types.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 09:24 PM
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7. Brazil? nt
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 09:57 PM
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11. Yeah, Brazil. You know, in Africa? nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:04 PM
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14. LOL. Yeah, I hear they have "black people" there. nt
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:05 PM
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15. OMFG! I had forgotten that!! nt
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Sokrates Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:14 PM
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17. Brainfart. Venezuela
Edited on Mon May-30-05 10:15 PM by Sokrates
Anayway... On the subject of Brazil, one should note that moderate left of center De Silva has had nothing to do with Chavez lately.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:25 PM
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21. Ronald Reagan? Is that you?
Edited on Mon May-30-05 10:29 PM by Commie Pinko Dirtbag
One time, when RR was making a speech in Brazil, he called us "Bolivians." :dunce:

And what's that "nothing to do?" I live in Brazil and haven't seen anything of the sort. Every time he (or any Brazilian govt official) utters anything about Venezuela, it's to tell the USA they have no right to meddle.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:49 AM
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37. Lula's supporters are getting seriously pissed at him too.
Way to much caving in to IMF and corporate-style globalization for the popular taste.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:34 PM
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44. Brainfart. Suuuuuuure.
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 10:35 PM by TheWatcher
You might try getting your countries right before practicing your Talking Points and rhetoric here.

Thanks for the laugh. :)

And BRILLIANT attempt at diversion to change the subject away from your little "Brainfart."
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 09:27 PM
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9. "Cult of Personality" = assassination protection. Had Allende cultivated
a greater sense of love and admiration by his citizens, maybe Kissinger and Nixon wouldn't have supported his murder.
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abb9 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 09:30 PM
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10. Chavez is a Hero to the masses
Anyone with guts to stand up to fascist leaning,Wannabe imperial King G.W,is a hero.

Anyone who stands up for the masses of his people instead of the corporate leeches is a hero.

Who do you think would be missed more by their people,G.W.in the USA or Chavez in Venezuela?

No doubt it will be Chavez.

I have a feeling you are a supporter of murderer Terrorist,Luis Posada.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
41. Chavez is certainly more popular than Shrub
No one would care if Bush disappeared for four years.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:02 PM
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12. "We should always be suspicious"
Yes...yes we should. :rofl:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:03 PM
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13. But he is the elected leader of Venezuela, so Bush's attempts to overthrow
him are illegal and wrong, whether he is a hero, or just another leader Bush doesn't want to have to deal with.

Pray that you never get on Bush's bad side. His respect for life or law is shaky, at best.
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Sokrates Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:18 PM
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19. But he is the elected leader of Venezuela
And Bush is the elected leader of the US. Does that make him an admirable person?

What would the the reaction on DU have been if Bush forced through an extension to his term, or the ability to remove judges without the consent of Congress?

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:22 PM
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20. Bwaaahaaahaaa.
The unintended irony is killing me.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:02 PM
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42. Hahahaha
Best one i've heard in a long time. Bush elected... how absurd, to use chimpy's favorite word of the day.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:56 PM
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25. Chavez was legitimately elected by 70% of his people.
Bush has never been elected. According to the exit polls, Bush was soundly defeated by Kerry.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 11:22 PM
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27. Correction: Herr Busch has never been legally elected....
...as president.

Meanwhile, Chavez has been fairly and legally elected. Turns out there was some monkey-business with the voting...and Chavez wasn't the one that instigated the voting irregularities.

You also might want to wait a while longer to see what Herr Busch does in regards to extending his time in office following the next "terrorist" attack. I envision Captain Cuckoo-bananas calling himself something catchy like "President-for-Life"...what do you think?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:09 AM
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32. Bush is the "elected leader of the US"?
Bush is a legend in his own mind!

I supposed you also believe that Bush served honorably in the Texas National Guard, and that Bush was truthful to the American people about Iraq.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:13 AM
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38. Winner of the "You'd do it for Randolph Scott award."
Not even relevant. The point is Bush tried to overthrow the democratically elected leader of a sovereign nation. Uncool, illegal, wrong in every way. It would be like invading Iraq for absolutely no reason at all...

It isn't so much that DUers love Chavez. It is that we feel a moral obligation as the owners of the US government to prevent our government from breaking the law in our name. When Chavez disappears, we fear we failed. He is a hero in that he stands up to the monstrous illegality that has taken over our nation.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #19
45. How are you able to speak with both your feet in your mouth?
Just curious.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #19
48. Not only is Chavez doing what FDR did, the Venezuelan constitution allows
it. The constitution that the country approved allows "court packing" as it was called when FDR did it.

They allow it for the same reason FDR wanted it: because the judiciary is the last bastion of extreme conservativism in every society that is moving forward rapidly.
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:37 PM
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49. Shaky? Bush's has no respect for life and law.
They're just means to an end for him...if it helps his circle accumulate wealth, that's all that matters to him. The fact that he can stand in front of a crowd and spout platitudes only shows the depth of his contempt for life and justice. But what goes around comes around.
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #6
22. Nice knowing you.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:51 PM
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23. Respectfully, I don't see it that way
Could you explain exactly how you think Chavez has "weakened democracy" in Venezuela? As it stands comments like that one are little more than sound bites, vague accusations tossed off without evidentiary support.

If you really believe this to be the case please back up your statement.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #6
26. Myself, I'm always suspicious of
the judgement of someone who chooses a beer mug as an avatar.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #26
46. The Irony Of It Is That The Beer Mug
Is probably better informed. :)
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #6
28. What could anyone expect from someone that can't spell "Socrates"?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 11:59 PM
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29. The spelling is fine (c vs. k), it's the ideas that are off to starboard
Frankly, after going through The Republic a few times, I think the same could be said for the original namesake, as well -- or at least Plato's interpretation.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #6
30. And Bush is a defender of freedom and democracy. right?
And Bush doesn't have a cult of personality either!

Yep, I got your number!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:06 AM
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31. "we" should always be suspicious???
pa-leese! :eyes:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #31
40. Pronoun abusing, again. (nt)
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:50 AM
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35. by teaching the poor to read and know their rights in the constitution
Very weakening. He should know by now that only the elites can rule, not the lazy and stupid poor who don't know what real work is.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:55 AM
Response to Reply #35
36. Using oil profits to help the poor is a crime in Bush's eyes
What's next for Chavez? Stick it to the World Bank?
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:15 PM
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39. Could this be a "dis-assembler"?
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LuPeRcALiO Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:14 PM
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18. I hope he got some CIA antivenom from Fidel
or whatever it is he uses...
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:55 PM
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24. This is a great relief. The world can't afford to lose Chavez.
He is such a great example to all other world leaders.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:03 PM
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43. You may have already noticed this problem!
June 1, 2005

US Media's Anti-Chavez Bias
Framing Venezuela
By JUSTIN DELACOUR

In analyzing U.S. press coverage of Venezuela, it is instructive to examine how U.S. news reports "frame" the political issues. Operating on the basic assumption that framing is a process of selecting certain fragments of a perceived reality and making them more prominent in a text, one can deduce that news frames are not necessarily neutral in a political or ideological sense. By emphasizing certain fragments of a perceived reality and omitting (or downplaying) others, U.S. media can promote their own political agendas.

A recent examination of reports about Venezuela in The Miami Herald, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, and Christian Science Monitor suggests not only that U.S. media frequently invoke biased news frames but also that their choices of which "independent" analysts to cite is strongly correlated with the level of bias.


Biased News Frames

To illustrate the meaning of frame bias, it is instructive to analyze one recent Miami Herald report, entitled "Chávez eyes idle lands, raising fears" (January 22, 2005). A cursory examination of the title reveals that the story is principally framed in "personalist" terms: Venezuela's president, Hugo Chávez Frias, "eyes idle lands..." The personalist frame --a favorite of the Herald-- immediately conjures up notions of the all-powerful leader, portraying the president as solely responsible for "stirring fears." The title fails to convey the larger social forces and the level of popular political support --institutionally mediated through repeated electoral processes-- that sustain the policy in question.

In addition to invoking the personalist frame, the Herald employs the "property rights" frame to highlight the "fears" that have been stirred mostly among anti-government property holders. Buried deeper in the report, however, is an acknowledgement that the agrarian reform law "filled many landless peasants with hope." In other words, the Herald explicitly chooses to highlight --in the story's title-- the "fears" of large landowners while downplaying landless peasants' support for agrarian reform.
(snip/...)

http://www.counterpunch.org/delacour06012005.html
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:44 PM
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47. The most recent CounterSpin (available in mp3 at www.fair.org)
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 10:45 PM by AP
had a great, short, critique of a recent Houston Chronicle Op-Ed on Chavez, written by Dole's former press secretary.

They claim Chavez is seeking a nuclear bomb and that he's crazy. No named sources of course.

They also say that Chavez is a dictator is all but title, or something like that. Fair points out that "dictator" actually isn't a title that rulers assume and that Chavez and his party have won 6 elections in last 8 years.
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