Minister Takes Down 'Flush Koran' Sign

[shawn703]

A North Carolina pastor is apologizing to Muslims for a sign in front of his church that said, "The Koran needs to be flushed."

The sign referred to a now-retracted Newsweek story alleging that U.S. interrogators flushed Islam's holy book down a toilet. There were anti-U.S. demonstrations in several countries and violent unrest in Afghanistan following the story.

But the Rev. Creighton Lovelace, of Danieltown Baptist Church in Forest City, said he meant to affirm and exalt the Bible rather than insult Muslims. In a statement, Lovelace said that after prayer and reflection, he now realizes that Muslims revere their holy book more than many Americans revere the Bible.

The statement said:

"Now I realize how offensive this is to them, and after praying about it, I have chosen to remove the sign. I apologize for posting that message and deeply regret that it has offended so many in the Muslim community. I remain committed to proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and renew my commitment to proclaiming that message in the true spirit of Christ's love."



more...
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/4540333/detail.html?rss=dgo&psp=nationalnews

[tk2kewl]

1. ...puts up "Kill the Judges" sign

[Inland]

15. ...puts up, "Mishandle Koran" sign". nt

[tk2kewl]

20. LOL

[Norquist Nemesis]

2. Ooops! Must have been about to lose his faith-based funding! n/t

[CrispyQ]

3. He didn't realize it would be offensive?

He should use the brain his god gave him instead of going through life mindlessly reacting.

[Roland99]

7. That brain's been destroyed by mind-numbing propaganda.

[moggie]

13. Too dumb to even lie convincingly n/t

[Larkspur]

14. He missed the brain-dispersing appointment with his god.

[Bark Bark Bark]

4. My brief snarky e-mail and his (canned) "reply"

...are over here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1810438&mesg_id=1810438

[geckosfeet]

12. I got same response,,, its canned but its better than the sign

[Guckert]

5. Then changed it back to "its Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve"

:puke:

[CAcyclist]

27. My idea of a bumper-sticker slogan:

God told me, it IS Adam and Steve

OR: Steve was Adam's other rib

[BrotherBuzz]

6. Hey butthole, that sign offended me and I'm not even...

in the Muslim community....

[0007]

8. Holy Mackerel!!

These "Faith Based" recipients should have to take a saliva test.

[UCLA Dem]

9. The moron had to "pray" to come to that conclusion? And he's a pastor??

I think he skipped a few classes at seminary.

[VegasWolf]

18. "Praying" sounds better than listening to the voices of the sky people in

his head.

[The Icon Painter]

22. Why

Why do you think he even went to seminary? Here in the south, all you have to do is get 'the call' and you are entitled to your own personal flock of idiots. Surely you don't think these creatures can read, do you?

[Javaman]

30. Praying and Channeling, one and the same???

I get a kick out of these various people that poop poop channeling, yet no one has a problem when someone prays to god to get answers.

Call me kooky.

[KittyWampus]

10. This Is A Better Than Average Apology. Usually These Types Do The

non-apologetic apology.

And while one can question the man's sincerity... it's still an assumption that he doesn't truely regret his actions.

Babies learn to walk one step at a time.

[arikara]

24. They usually say that they "regret" something, never that they're sorry

Although his apology was marginally better than the usual rightie format, he did have to wreck it at the end by announcing that he was committed to spreading his version of the word... not that he learned a lesson and is going to attempt to LIVE by the word from here on in.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

11. Makes me think of that saying that was popular a few years back...

Here's your sign!

[cliss]

16. When I read stuff like this,

I can't help thinking about that old Sourpuss, Ayatollah Khomeini. Rememeber his sour face? He looked like he was perpetually pissed (maybe he was).

Anyway, he called the US the "Great Satan". Now, I'm not exonerating Khomeini, but when I read Medieval stuff like this, it just makes me wonder....

Which age are we in again?

[Just Me]

17. I don't believe him. I don't believe he's capable of getting in touch,...

,...with the true spirit of Christ's love. Anyone who has that capacity would NOT have engaged in such a hateful act.

He'll have to prove his capacity to stand in the spirit of Christ's love by his actions over a long period of time.

[pschoeb]

19. My guess, it was the god of money that talked to him in his prayers

I bet that some of the donors to his church didn't want to be associated with his statements, and this made him see the "light"

By the way, this idiot is the President of the Western North Carolina chapter of the League of the South, and commander of the Rutherford Rifles Camp #2044, North Carolina Division, Sons of Confederate Veterans. So he is a traitor to the USA.

[antonialee839]

21. The jackass needed to pray about it

to realize it wasn't right and that it is offensive? Not only is it offensive to Muslims, but to all decent people. What in the world is our country coming to?

[NAO]

23. How about a Tom Paine Inspired Sign: Flush ALL (alleged) Holy Books Down

From American Founding Father Thomas Paine's book "The Age of Reason"

Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason"
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine/age_of_reason/index.shtml

*****

From "The Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine (1795)

EVERY national church or religion has established itself by pretending some special mission from God, communicated to certain individuals. The Jews have their Moses; the Christians their Jesus Christ, their apostles and saints; and the Turks their Mahomet; as if the way to God was not open to every man alike. Each of those churches shows certain books, which they call revelation, or the Word of God. The Jews say that their Word of God was given by God to Moses face to face; the Christians say, that their Word of God came by divine inspiration; and the Turks say, that their Word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from heaven. Each of those churches accuses the other of unbelief; and, for my own part, I disbelieve them all.

When I am told that the Koran was written in Heaven, and brought to Mahomet by an angel, the account comes to near the same kind of hearsay evidence and second hand authority as the former. I did not see the angel myself, and therefore I have a right not to believe it. When also I am told that a woman, called the Virgin Mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, Joseph, said that an angel told him so, I have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this; for neither Joseph nor Mary wrote any such matter themselves. It is only reported by others that they said so. It is hearsay upon hearsay, and I do not chose to rest my belief upon such evidence.

It is, however, not difficult to account for the credit that was given to the story of Jesus Christ being the Son of God. He was born when the heathen mythology had still some fashion and repute in the world, and that mythology had prepared the people for the belief of such a story. Almost all the extraordinary men that lived under the heathen mythology were reputed to be the sons of some of their gods. It was not a new thing at that time to believe a man to have been celestially begotten; the intercourse of gods with women was then a matter of familiar opinion. Their Jupiter, according to their accounts, had cohabited with hundreds; the story therefore had nothing in it either new, wonderful, or obscene; it was conformable to the opinions that then prevailed among the people called Gentiles, or mythologists, and it was those people only that believed it. The Jews, who had kept strictly to the belief of one God, and no more, and who had always rejected the heathen mythology, never credited the story.

It is curious to observe how the theory of what is called the Christian Church, sprung out of the tail of the heathen mythology. A direct incorporation took place in the first instance, by making the reputed founder to be celestially begotten. The trinity of gods that then followed was no other than a reduction of the former plurality, which was about twenty or thirty thousand. The statue of Mary succeeded the statue of Diana of Ephesus. The deification of heroes changed into the canonization of saints. The Mythologists had gods for everything; the Christian Mythologists had saints for everything. The church became as crowded with the one, as the pantheon had been with the other; and Rome was the place of both. The Christian theory is little else than the idolatry of the ancient mythologists, accommodated to the purposes of power and revenue; and it yet remains to reason and philosophy to abolish the amphibious fraud.

[Endangered Specie]

25. Might I suggest he put up a "Tax me" sign?

:evilgrin:

[MasonJar]

26. Keith interviewed him and I almost threw up. He looked ignor-

ant and talked like a half-wit ( or a witless half); his reasoning was totally skewed and embarrassing.

[donco6]

28. oh, the MINISTER. Thought you were talking about *

Wrong thread.

[VegasWolf]

29. Flush this redneck "Reverend". n/t

[Nostradamus]

31. Satan made me do it