Bush,Others Should Face Torture Probes, Says Amnesty; Urges Arrest

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

If Warranted

WASHINGTON, D.C., May 26 (OneWorld) - Rights watchdog Amnesty International urged foreign governments Wednesday to investigate and prosecute President George W. Bush much as they once did former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet.

''If the United States permits the architects of torture policy to get off scot-free, then other nations should step into the breach,'' William Schulz, executive director of Amnesty International USA, said in a statement launching Amnesty's annual report.

Bush is among a dozen former or current U.S. officials who should be probed by foreign governments because Washington has failed to conduct ''a genuinely independent and comprehensive investigation'' of torture allegations against U.S. troops, commanders, and their civilian overseers, Schulz said.

Others on the Amnesty list of potential targets for investigation and prosecution include Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, and former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) chief George Tenet.

http://us.oneworld.net/article/view/112144/1/

[merwin]

1. I say we skip the probe and torture Commander Cuckoo Bananas himself.

[Goldmund]

3. What?

You are in favor of torture?

[merwin]

6. I wouldn't stop someone from torturing him. He's a certified proveable

war criminal who has caused well over 100,000 people to die. He's not some possibly innocent person pulled off of the street.

[chknltl]

8. I will know tha t I have died and gone to heaven when.....

I see wally in his bvds in a cell on CNN

[ladjf]

20. That scene would be massive therapy for the entire human

race except for the 50 million Americans that may have voted for him.
And they would actually be far better off. They just don't realize it yet.

[Goldmund]

11. The principle has nothing to do with any particular case.

Otherwise there IS NO principle.

[merwin]

16. I am completely against torture, with one exception. Those people

like I menitioned above who have caused unimaginable amounts of pain and suffering. For example, a serial killer (which is pretty much what he is, isn't it?)

[Goldmund]

31. And where is it that you draw the line?

Is somebody who kills two people a serial killer? Three? Ten?

What about Bill Clinton? Have civilians not died under him? Is he a serial killer?

Or does it have to do with the motives... Or what?

[EST]

27. I am not in favor of torture, but since, in my universe,

there is no chance of any ultimate justice, I must confess.

There are times, when the scabs have been ripped off my own tortured psyche yet again by the monsters-in-charge and their hypnotized enabling minions, I almost allow a flagrant, fleeting notion...
Gratification is so rare, life so brutally brief, the thought of the ultimate torturing prison of them all-Christian created hell-as a permanent camp for the child killers and their mental slaves does drift, unbidden, through the darkened landscape of the "American Dream."

[Jack Rabbit]

14. Bush is a war criminal and should be treated like one

He should be apprehended, properly charged by an international tribunal convened for the purpose, tried, if the evidence supports it (and we know it does) found guilty and sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison.

There would be no torture. That would defeat the purpose.

[Fire Walk With Me]

Wow, wow

[indepat]

2. Apparently most Americans, Congressmen, and MSM media are o.k.

with the entire torture episodes that have surfaced, so maybe Amnesty International is barking up a national tree unperturbed by this issue.

[AndyTiedye]

7. Who Told Us We Were OK With That?

[Gloria]

4. Calling all foreign governments!!! PROBE these suckers.....

You'll be better off in the long run....

[Zorra]

19. Yes! Please, take them. We won't stand in your way. We'll even pay for

transportation!

Get these war criminals to a jail cell ASAP so they can't hurt anyone else.

[chknltl]

5. Love it!

Here is an older but very related item:
www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Afghanistan-Criminal-Tribunal10mar04.htm

[lala_rawraw]

9. People, i wonder if it is

Still legal to email the Hague? Or will we be collected into paddy wagons?

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Send the Frat Boy and his pals on a tour on the Netherlands . . .

The Palace of Peace
The Hague
Home of the International Criminal Court

Photo from the Instituut voor Internationaal Reecht (Belgium)

[ailsagirl]

12. A picture IS worth a thousand words...

[Gregorian]

13. From the outside. I've been saying it and saying it.

It's the only way this country will be saved. I just wish they could have done more, sooner. And in reality, I doubt there is much that anyone can do, especially in time. Not only do these things take up to decades, but we are still considered a superpower. I'm affraid. This administration has opened Pandora's box.

[rodeodance]

15. you betcha

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

29. We've all been saying it...

The kool aid drinkers believe that the torture and death brought about by W's war is all part of the "Culture of Life."

This is bizzaro world.

[Solly Mack]

17. Don't forget Ashcroft...

Gonzales wrote the memo...but Ashcroft was the AG when all this started and you can't tell me he didn't know...well, you can tell me, but I ain't buying it.

[donkeyotay]

32. Reminds me of some lyrics I wrote to the tune of "Guantanamera"

Verse: Heard the chatter on Cheney,
and Perle has been linked.
Got a TIP on John Ashcroft,
from a reliable fink.

Refrain: Guantanamo Bay, Camp X-ray
Send them all away-ay
to Guantanamo Bay-ay

[NNN0LHI]

18. Others? The Democrats silence equals consent

Sorry folks but some of them will have to go too.

Don

[TahitiNut]

22. House cleaning starts at home.

:shrug:

[ninkasi]

28. Painful to admit

But true, nevertheless. Just because a politician is a Democrat does not excuse her/him from acting with integrity. The Congress did not have to vote to give Bush powers that we knew he would abuse; if we on DU knew it, how could the politicians NOT know it?

We need to get our own house in order, while at the same time ridding the government of corrupt politicians, fascists, and theocrats . They have no place in governing our country. The time to lay the groundwork is now, the place to start will be in the 2006 elections.

Let's get our country, or what's left of it, back.

[jayctravis]

21. The irony of bad people is

that they often become what they fear the most. Surely they truly believe they are doing what is right. The means are not justified by the ways.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

23. I concur.

Make it so.

[johnaries]

24. Hey, we invaded Iraq because of human rights violations, right?

Or at least, that's been the story since no WMD's were found. By that same logic, why shouldn't other countries push for regime change here? Maybe someone should force Democracy on us, since we basically just threw it away.

[Gloria]

25. Maybe George Galloway is the advance man!

eom

[Rainscents]

26. Please God, Help save America from evil... let the oneworld take him!

[bpilgrim]

30. If we FAIL to investigate the ICC gets jurisdiction

the whole world is watching

peace

[bpilgrim]

33. kick

peace

[adigal]

34. Bush might like getting "probed"

n/t

[bpilgrim]

35. kick

peace