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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:55 AM
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Laser Warning Wasn't Used With Cessna
WASHINGTON -- A new system of lasers designed to warn pilots that they've entered restricted airspace wasn't turned on Monday for the same reason the radio and the transponder of the wandering plane didn't work: the weather.
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To avoid the expense of scrambling fighter jets to escort errant planes away from the restricted area in and around the capital city, the Pentagon on Saturday had inaugurated a system of red-and-green warning lasers deployed around Washington.

First Lt. Lisa Citino, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said lasers weren't turned on Monday because the pilot couldn't have seen them through the clouds.

"The lasers didn't sparkle for the same reason his radio and transponder went out _ the weather," she said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/24/AR2005052400410.html
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 12:19 PM
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1. Monday? There was another one?
Sorry, if I appear uninformed, but I've been in South Park -- literally. South Park City / Fairplay, CO and there really isn't much in the way of communication there.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 12:27 PM
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2. Transponders don't work because of weather?
You mean, every time a plane flies above/through clouds they drop off the radar screens of air traffic controllers??????????

:scared:

:bullshit:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 12:46 PM
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3. Oh my god, you're right!! I missed that last line!!
How much more are they going to bullshit us?!

For those of you not familiar with aviation terminology, the transponder is a device in the aircraft that transmits the signal which identifies a particular aircraft on the radar screen. Without a transponder the controller sees an a/c as a splotch on the screen. With the transponder the controller sees a well--defined dot with an ID code (flight number or tail number) altitude and airspeed. Short of a direct lightning strike, I can't think of any weather condition severe enough to take out a transponder and the radios. (Most a/c have several.)

They are lying to us AGAIN!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:19 PM
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4. bigtime bullshit!
Transponders are an integral part of an aircraft's IFR avionics. It's like saying radios don't work in clouds either...:eyes:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:31 PM
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5. are transponders the devices that are used to locate
planes, even if they are submerged under water?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 03:10 PM
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8. That's the Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT, for short)...
Edited on Tue May-24-05 03:10 PM by Cooley Hurd
The transponder is a device that transmits a signal from the aircraft to ATC (called "squawking" a predetermined, 4-digit code - determined by ATC and dialed in by the pilot), and is almost always coupled with an altitude reporting device called "mode c." In short, it's a radio transmitter that shouldn't be affected by weather.:thumbsup:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:36 PM
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9. thanks!
have to admit that I just don't always know much about airplanes and electronics

:pals:
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:37 PM
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6. Read the article ...
But lightning struck the small Canadian aircraft and he lost his radio, Martin said Tuesday. The pilot never got closer than 10 miles from the White House, he said.

According to government officials who spoke on condition of anonymity, the pilot's one mistake was that he didn't switch his transponder code to indicate he had no radio.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:38 PM
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7. I did ...
It explicitely says his radio and transponder went out. Whether he switched his transponder code to indicate he was without radio or not - his transponder still worked.

Yeah - I know - sloppy reporting.
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