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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 05:42 AM
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LAT: Officers Plot Exit Strategy (Young officers leaving the military)
KILLEEN, Texas — Army Capts. Dave Fulton and Geoff Heiple spent 12 months dodging roadside bombs and rounding up insurgents along Baghdad's "highway of death" — the six miles of pavement linking downtown Baghdad to the capital city's airport. Two weeks after returning stateside to Ft. Hood, they ventured to a spartan conference room at the local Howard Johnson to find out about changing careers.

Lured by a headhunting firm that places young military officers in private-sector jobs, the pair, both 26, expected anonymity in the crowded room.

Instead, as Fulton and Heiple sipped Budweisers pulled from Styrofoam coolers next to the door, they spotted nearly a dozen familiar faces from their cavalry battalion, which had just ended a yearlong combat tour in Iraq.

The shocks of recognition came as they exchanged quick, awkward glances with others from their unit, each man clearly surprised to see someone else considering a life outside the military.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-captains22may22.story
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:16 AM
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1. "Dying ain`t much of a living boy" that is from Josie Wales I think.
And it sure fits this situation. I would say.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:53 AM
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2. When do you declare victory indeed.....
Probably 15 years or so from now after the US has sucked the last drop of oil out of the region....

~snip~

Yet Tuohey, who was promoted to captain upon returning to Ft. Hood, said he was not sure whether he would stay in the Army when his commitment ended next year. He said he was tempted to work on Wall Street.

It's not the money he's after. It's the fact that an Army that was gutted after the Cold War was promising him a future of perpetual deployments fighting a war that could last for decades.

That is not a future he is sure he can commit to.

"What's the end point?" he asked. "When do you declare victory?"

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:57 AM
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:04 AM
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4. guess what? Our 'freedom" doesn't have a Fucking thing to do with it!
Edited on Sun May-22-05 07:42 AM by leftchick
That song is quite incredible. Why it sounds like some pentagon propaganda made up for the masses. The Iraq War is not about "keeping us safe here at home"! Here is what it is REALLY about...http://www.pnac.info/

4R freedom!!!!!

:rofl:

and to the USA... Bring Our Troops Home NOW! That is how you show them support.



Who knows more than a Veteran the facts about Iraq?...
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/images/
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:37 AM
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5. This eagle's gonna roar?
Edited on Sun May-22-05 07:40 AM by teryang
Sounds like it was written by a John Ashcroft wannabe.

He didn't serve, but he wanted to do something patriotic.

Patriot Act anyone? It's not patriotic but it sounds like it is.

More smarmy sappy romanticizing about an illegal war of conquest.

Doesn't it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside as you go down the belligerent road to fascist dictatorship?
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:39 AM
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6. Sorry Mr. Moore, in my opinion you MUST be brain dead....eom
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:42 AM
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7. Eagles goanna roar?
OK, I was in the military and I like patriotic songs but this one just plain sucks.

It sounds like that stupid song one of the brush administrators sang, Let the Eagle Soar. Seems the eagle has both soared and roared and all it did was start a war in Iraqi. Hasn't caught the 9/11 murderer though.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 08:22 AM
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9. That would be John Asscrack
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:11 AM
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11. Let the EEEEEEEEAGLE snore, uh, roar
No, damnit, "SOAR!" :eyes:
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 08:43 AM
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10. "For our freedom Our Founding fathers fought to start"
The Founding Fathers would have taken up arms against the Bush junta.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:38 AM
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13. I suppose you feel oh so much freeer now than ever before
How much have you sacrificed?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:21 AM
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15. And I condemn you. This Bush War of Choice Based on LIES has nothing to
with your "freedom".

We don't want or need or appreciate your bullshit here.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:30 AM
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16. American people and Iraqi people are victims of this boosh war
And that's not something ought to be glorified by a song.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:32 PM
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17. What? I had a freeper on my thread?
I missed the fun!
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:47 AM
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8. Absolutely true.
It has never been about freedom, 'truth' and democracy. It has ALWAYS been about $$ and power and control. The level of naivete amongst Americans shouldn't surprise me but when it is DU'ers, I guess it does.
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vogonjiltz Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:36 AM
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12. I want to know...
why are these officers getting it so easy? Why should they be able to get out when their commitment is up? The army needs their leadership. Besides, they probably thought this Iraq thing was a good idea. Who do you suppose these cowards voted for anyway? I think they should be redeployed immediatly. They are officers darn it. I don't like this whiney "I joined the army and they want to do is send me to war" attitude these guys have. Fuck those freeper assholes.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:16 AM
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14. rest your mind
Their commitment isn't over, no matter what they do. They still have to serve in the Army Reserves, so with recruitment being what it is now for the Army, chances are good they'll be back in Iraq again even if they decide to leave. Uncle Sam has them by the balls.
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