Kucinich On US Space Weapons, Control Of the World

[IChing]

"The Administration is considering putting weapons in outer space, to give the United States the power to control the world. This astronomical arrogance pushes not simply aggression to new heights, but may well preclude our nation from spending money for anything other than weapons, which will cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

"The National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 states that it is "the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind." Space was envisioned as a place of cooperation, of confirming human unity, a place where we could aspire to build a new platform of peace, fulfilling the prophecy of the poet Browning who wrote: "but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?"

"What has happened to our country? Why are we projecting fear and paranoia to such heights? Have we so lost our way and our faith that we are prepared to transform the heavens into hell? If the kingdom and the will of God is to be done on earth as it is in heaven, what is to happen when the United States takes nuclear fire up to the gates of heaven?
http://www.rense.com/general65/control.htm

[bemildred]

1. Space weapons are a really stupid idea.

There is nowhere to hide in space.

[Ravenseye]

24. In space...

...nobody can hear you scream.

I agree that they're a stupid idea....but space is a big area. Plenty of places to hide...behind a moon. Above a magnetic pole...in a comet's tail...um...

[bemildred]

28. Yeah, you can be far away.

But then it takes a long time to hit something and it can
be seen coming and countered. In any real space war with
current technology all the relevant stuff will be neutered
with missiles and EMP bursts in the first hours and then we
will fight the old way in the rubble. To be sure it offers
some advantages against inferior opponents, but if the US and
Russia,say, got into it all the space placed stuff would be
cratered right away, with nukes if necessary. It's one of
the few things nukes are good for, and even then it's in the
context of mutual suicide.

[ckramer]

2. Kucinich for President!!!!!

Star war coming, mate?

[Zorra]

20. I'll second that.

:toast:

[Jara sang]

3. Here is a link to our space policy

per a report of the Select committee on Astronautics and Space Exploration in 1959.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/conghand/spcover.htm

and another one put out by the U.S. Air Force, which is the Warfighters Guide to Space.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/au-18/au180001.htm

[IChing]

22. operational in 18 months

"Everett Dolman, a professor at the Air Force’s School of Advanced Air and Space Studies, said Tuesday that work on several technologies — including microsatellites that could be launched to target enemy satellites and satellite-jamming systems — was far enough along that it could be declared operational within 18 months." from the yahoo news

[Frederik]

23. This is really, really scary

It's perhaps the most important issue in the world at the moment. They are obviously trying to do this so fast that most people won't notice until it's too late.

[olddad56]

4. Lets control the world, get all of the oil and then destroy the planet.

[MuseRider]

5. Wasn't this

something he said years ago and everyone made fun of him for talking about it? Hmmmmm.

[GreenArrow]

8. yep...

He was ahead of the game, as usual.

[bobthedrummer]

18. Yep-HR2977 The Space Preservation Act of 2001 had an "exotic weapons"

portion that disappeared from the revision, HR3616 The Space Preservation Act of 2002.
http://www.raven1.net/govptron.htm

[MuseRider]

19. Thanks bob!

I knew you would have that. I don't save nearly enough. I am going to save it this time. It seems that it has become once again important. He knew it then.

[madrchsod]

6. is china ready to sign on the idea of no weapons in space?

or any other nation that in the future will develop the capacity to develop such defense or offense weapons? russia already has the technology and the ability to destroy satellites.this is not going away and it has to be dealt with now.

[cprise]

7. We fear everybody because we lost our faith in PEOPLE

...and spewing religiousity like this does not help one bit. Every word of creedence you lend to the Bible through your public office undermines your true intent and reinforces the apocalypse-mongers.

[Desertrose]

10. ...or its a way to reach people that otherwise wouldn't listen

I give DK credit for reaching out to people on their level.

DK :yourock:

[cprise]

15. That is not the job of a democratically-elected lawmaker.

He needs to use associates in the private sector if he wants someone to make a case based on religion.

[Trillo]

29. Should people be allowed to speak thier minds? Or not?

[GreenArrow]

12. I'm not a formally religious person, but the first thing

I thought of when I read about this weaponization of space was the "Tower of Babel".

[cprise]

14. The first thing I thought was

... a gigantic hand pointing a pistol at the Earth.

[GreenArrow]

16. something like that

crossed my mind as well...

[paineinthearse]

9. Ho hum, this is old news

First reported in POLITICS AT 10:30am

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1793590

[IChing]

11. The US system would be able to

take out communication satellites in space. Communication dismemberment has always been a key to military operations including anyone or any country.

[LeftHander]

13. But who is going to secure the moon for democracy...

We can't have the moon fall into the hands of terrorists.


</sarcasm>

[MN ChimpH8R]

25. On Futurama

Al Gore was the first Emperor of the Moon.

Why did I flash on that? Working too hard. Need to go to DU Lounge... :beer:

But seriously, this may be the stupidest idea yet from Chimpy and Unca Dickkk's gang of imperialist crackheads, I mean, fantasizers. No, I was right the first time: crackheads.

[getmeouttahere]

17. For winning ideas, and someone who will stand up...

to BushCo, look no further than Kucinich!

[Lone_Wolf]

21. Space based weapons are a wet dream of PNAC

The PNAC neocon ghouls were giddy over the prospect of space based weapons in their report "Rebuilding America's Defenses."

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

[goodhue]

26. Dennis rocks.

Great statement.

[jimmytuckett]

27. rocking

i agree.

www.subbionic.com

[Moderator]

30. locking

Source cited in Original Post does not meet LBN criteria, please feel to repost from another source.

[MadisonProgressive]

31. So are we going to start attacking Russia and China's launch

sites preemptively so they can't compete with us in space? What about the EU?

This is truly MAD!