Three Arrested in Sex Ring Involving Kids, Animals, and Church

[blitzen]

http://wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=3363499

"The Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff's office has broken up what they call a 'child sex abuse cult.' Three members of a Ponchatoula church have been arrested for allegedly raping children, and in some cases, having sex with animals. Some of the kids are as young as two years old.

The Tangipahoa Sheriff's office says the alleged abuse occurred two years ago. Sheriff Daniel Edwards says his office began investigating the Hosanna Church more than a month ago, after getting information from a mother of an alleged victim. The big break in the case came Monday when the church's minister turned himself in to the Livingston Parish Sheriff's office, and allegedly named names, one of whom was a Sheriff's deputy."

[quaoar]

1. Good God!

That's not far from where I used to live.

It's Louisiana, probably in Hammond.

From the story:

Sheriff's officials say certain church members allegedly raped children and animals in a cult-like fashion at the Hosanna Church. A nieghbor says when he found out about it, "It surprised me. But I wouldn't put it pass them. They were weird looking people to begin with."

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

2. Anyone wanna guess who they voted for last November?

[ngGale]

21. Two guesses and one don't count...

the Christian Bush perverts, strike again. So much for morality!
Children to, these people are really bad and hypocritical.

[VegasWolf]

29. Yes, true values voters! n/t

[LifeDuringWartime]

50. my guess is they didnt vote

hardcore religious extremists like that dont get involved with the government unless it involves getting a check from them every month

[paineinthearse]

3. Rev. Louis Lamonica on the web

http://wwww.basspro.com/page-67/article/28542.htm

Of Wet and Muddy Faces
written by John N. Felsher

Somehow, in moment of weakness and temporary insanity, I agreed to tent camp with 14 pre-teen boys from our church......Unintentionally, I started a survival-of-the-fittest contest when I brought out four weenie-roasting forks for 14 boys. The adults lost. Laws probably prohibit combining slippery mud, overcharged boys, sharp objects and a fire -- and for good reason. God watched over us, though, because no one, not even the fathers, suffered any serious injuries, discounting numerous scrapes, scratches, bruises and an occasional burn from an overzealous fire keeper.

Rev. Louis LaMonica, pastor of the church, joined us later that evening. He said something about being late because of a church function. I suspect he just waited as long as he could, thinking the boys would finally be asleep. He didn't wait long enough. Bringing his own supper of fast food, he obviously had heard of my famed "Deep Woods Char-raw" and didn't take any chances, despite his belief in divine healing.

I didn't think the boys would ever run out of energy. Some didn't until after they returned home. They never walked anywhere, preferring to run. If only I could bottle that and sell it!

Pastor LaMonica also left early the next day, saying something about having a lot of praying to do for us. He was probably correct about that.

People, if you have minor children, be sure that all adult chaperones have had CORI & SORI background checks!

[blitzen]

4. "How did that family tradition start?" she asked..... n/t

[UpInArms]

6. let's put some faces with those names

Chris Labat, Louis Lamonica, and Austin Bernard

These sociopaths need to be behind bars for the rest of their natural lives (let's just hope those lives are short)

[WhiteTara]

31. thanks for the visual

these are the most dispicable looking things that I have seen in awhile. This story sickens me, but it is only one of thousands. They just found the little girl in the Disney Hotel photos. Here's to those Christian values. :puke:

[amazona]

5. ho-kay

I don't live too far from Pontchatoula so I'll try to find out more. Right now my best guess is that we have a crazy guy and some hysteria. One of the not-so-great moments in our area occurred when a doctor was arrested because he was taking a shower in his own house...and stupidly left the front door unlocked...and a toddler got in and walked into his bathroom and later told his mom he saw the guy's wee-wee! And the doctor was arrested because a kid broke into his house. while he was minding his business taking a shower. :eyes:

So I'll retain my skepticism until I know more. Right now, I don't know if the guy really did get it on with animals and children alike, or if he just watched too many movies. I'll post in the great if and when I get some information. I find it difficult to belief that even the nuttiest of churches can justify having sex with two year olds.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[progressivebydesign]

9. The minister turned himself in... and named names..

I don't think this is a trumped up case, after all. I am usually skeptical about these things after the McMartin Preschool debacle decades ago.. Sounds like this may be the real deal.

[Willy Lee]

32. Yes, the article says the minister turned himself in-

at the police station. He is one of the 3 (the 1st) pictured above.

Sick fucks.

[amazona]

33. I understood the minister confessed

I did not yet know when I first posted if his confession was reality-based or if he was a loony-toon.

I'm now convinced that this evil **** probably happened, since it sounds like two of the guilty are telling the same story. How can grown men get together and deliberately conspire to orgy with cats, dogs, and kids in a freakin' church?

I have begun to believe that the evil rhetoric of some of fundy churches deliberately attracts the diseased mind.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[Project_Willow]

42. Um...

But they found the McMartin tunnels you know.
An investigator hired UCLA archaeologist Gary Stickle. They did ground penetrating radar and dug and found the tunnels pretty much as the kids described them.
It's just another thing the wonderful, so trustworthy M$M 'forgot' to tell you about.

The case was a debacle, for the kids.

[sojourner]

44. Interesting - that's something I've not heard about...

where can I learn more?

Thanks for posting the info!

[LostinVA]

46. They never found the tunnels

They dug the whole damn lot and part of the surrounding neighborhood up. This certainly wasn't shown and proven at trial. The McMartin defendants were innocent.

Link please?

[Tansy_Gold]

47. Oh, yes, indeedy, they found tunnels.

From 1994

http://users.cybercity.dk/~ccc44406/smwane/McMartin4.htm

<snip>
McGauley and Gunderson organized the 1990 McMartin dig and hired LA archaeologist Gary Sickel. Information on Sickel's background will be forthcoming. At this point, suffice to say that Sickel used the McMartin parents as the sole excavators of the site. These were people who not only had an agenda about finding something, but who had a history of apparently implanting phony artifacts. This is significant in light of the fact that the artifacts they present now as their chief evidence are two small (easily implantable) items: a Mickey Mouse plastic sandwich bag and a saucer with five-pointed stars painted on it.

<end snip>

<snip>
Currently, McGauley and Sickel are making Sickel's report on the dig available only to members of the child protection coterie who have made their careers promoting the existence of satanic ritual abuse -- such as Coulbourn-Faller and Summit. The report is not available to the public. McGauley and Summit have said it cannot be released unless someone (a publisher, for instance) pays substantial amounts of money for it. This position contradicts the normal practice in California among archaeologists, which is to archive their reports for peer review and public use.
<end snip>



The author's claim is later repudiated by none other than Ted Gunderson, who was living with McGauley at the time, denounced her later, and claims he footed the bill for some of the "archaeological" dig. Gunderson's name may be familiar to some DUers, as he was involved just a few months ago in the Johnny Gosch/James Guckert/Jeff Gannon brouhaha. Gunderson's name has also been linked with Art Bell.

Not exactly my idea of a "reliable" source.

[LostinVA]

49. Why Tansy, this is a great source!

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!! When I read your post subject, I was like, what kind of fruitcake link will THIS be!

Again, bad things happen to kids, but they didn't in Manhattan Beach at Virginia McMartin's daycare.

[Tansy_Gold]

54. Um, sorry, didn't mean to give the impression

that I believed Gunderson.

Gunderson was the "unreliable" source.



I remember hearing about the "tunnels" story years and years ago, but not clearly enough. However, I was pretty sure the whole McMartin thing was a witch-hunt and therefore the tunnels thing was probably bogus as well.

When I read the two links, I was sure of it.

Had there been any substance to the tunnels story, the McMartin case would have been blown wide open again, and it never was, AFAIK.


Just to be clear -- I'm on the side that thinks the McMartin case was a smear, that some people were so paranoid they'd believe anything, that the tunnels story was partially hoax, partially a frantic desire on the part of some paranoid parents to produce ANYTHING that could be seen as proof that the McMartins were guilty and they -- the parents -- weren't fruitcakes.

[countryjake]

51. Kids' parents dug up vacant lot, NOTHING; kids then changed story...

not one trap door or evidence of any trap door was found in the cement slab on which the school was located.

Nothing, anywhere, was found as the kids described it!

http://www.religioustolerance.org/tunnels.htm

[LostinVA]

45. I honestly don't think I believe this

Do I believe the guy did stuff to kids? Hell yeah. MAYBE even the other two guys, though I am skeptical until all of the information and evidence is shown. But the rest of it? Sorry. It smacks too much of the McMartin-Little Rascals- Many More child sex abuse cases in the 90's and early 90's. Just too fantastic. The sex with the cat thing, etc. I lived in NC (Greensboro) when the Little Rascal case was being tried, and I knew then it was a pack of lies and poor coached kids. It's come out I was right. And the same thing has happened with EVERY SINGLE ONE of these claims.

Do I believe abuse happens, especially between authority figures like minister/priest/teachers/parents and kids? Hell yeah? Are they scum? Again, hell yeah. If they're guilty, put them away for life, no parole, solitary confinement.

But the rest of this is too fantastic.

And, I'd appreciate it if no one says I'm saying this kind of abuse is okay. I am not saying that. I think this guy is nuts.

[Project_Willow]

52. you "knew" it was a pack of lies?

There is no way you could know, unless you were there.

If you think humans, yes, even American humans aren't capable of this kind of stuff, you are naive and you are enabling the activity.

The cases in the 80's and 90's were not uniformly debunked. Do some research, if you question Gunderson then, question the other sources too, find out where the trails lead.

The Eberles who lead the fight on behalf of the defendants in the McMartin case, check out their pasts. The leaders of the FMSF, like Orne, and Wakefield, look into what they were up to before they came to the aid of all the "poor" folks accused of pedophilia.

These people above have an agenda much more powerful than that of the families. All we need is someone who is capable of doing some research WITH AN OPEN MIND.


edited for typos

[Tinoire]

7. Aw rats! They're not Catholic!

Too bad this thread will sink like a stone.

Horrible. Horrible. Horrible.

2 fucking years old?@!

[leftchick]

34. indeed Tinoire.

:(

[KamaAina]

36. So what? Abuse is abuse is abuse.

It matters not to me whether the slimeballs are Catholic, fundie, or Millenarian Heretic (someone once actually filled that in on his New Zealand census form!). I doubt that it matters much to the kids, either -- or the cats. :puke:

As I post this, the thread is about fifth from the top, so maybe DU is catching on to the radical notion that this sort of filth occurs in every faith.

[amazona]

37. then keep it kicked awhile

I do think some of the attacks on Catholic churches have been politically motivated. This crap shouldn't be tolerated in ANY church, Catholic or Protestant.

I'll give the thread another little kick right now.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[mitchum]

48. KICKING THIS THREAD IN THE SPIRIT OF ECUMENISM

it's the least we heathens can do for all of the believers

[Tinoire]

8. Deputy, Pastor, Church Member Jailed In Child Sex Abuse (3rd arrest)

Deputy, Pastor, Church Member Jailed In Child Sex Abuse

PONCHATOULA, La. -- Tangipahoa Parish sheriff's deputies made a third arrest Wednesday in the ongoing investigation of a case involving allegations of sexual abuse of children and animals at a Ponchatoula church.

Austin Aaron Bernard III, 36, of SW Railroad Avenue, in Hammond, was arrested on a charge of aggravated rape of a child under the age of 13.

Police said Bernard confessed to detectives that he had sex with a young girl in November 2002 and admitted to knowing about alleged sexual acts involving children, dogs and cats that occurred at Hosanna Church, where he was a member.

(snip)

On Monday, Louis Lamonica, 45, the former pastor of Hosanna Church, was booked with two counts of aggravated rape and one count of crime against nature after he walked in to the Livingston Parish Sheriff's Office and said he could implicate others in a situation at the church that reportedly occurred two years ago.

All three are being held without bond.

(snip)

Additional arrests are expected.

http://www.theneworleanschannel.com/news/4503827/detail.html

[progressivebydesign]

10. Sex with a CAT????

Pedophiles, sadly, are something we hear about daily in America. these people need to go to prison forever if they are convicted of what's been alleged.

Okay.. I'm trying get my mind around someone having sex with a cat. That's sick and stupid.

[Tinoire]

15. I wish I hadn't seen your post

:( Like I said, I skimmed the details. I have 3 cats, love kids, hate perverts and this just horrifies me.

[blitzen]

16. sorry...it is hard to read

but i thought it should be publicized, if only as an experiment to see whether FAUX will pick up on it....It's a story tailor-made for Greta and Geraldo. Except that it makes fundies look really bad.

[SKKY]

23. Ouch. I'm speaking for the cat of course....

[killbotfactory]

11. Yikes...

Usually when you hear about this stuff, it ends up being a kid telling lies being coached by an overzealous prosecture and nothing happens...

disturbing

[DanCa]

12. OMG

Just out of curosity does anyone know where Chan Chandler is right now? This sounds like something that that freak would try and start.

[libnnc]

13. I have tried so hard...

to keep from going completely ballistic on organized religion. After the crap back home in Waynesville, the Catholic church scandals, and now THIS?!?!?!? Its too much. I was raised a United Methodist and when I was a kid these Fristian freaks were...well...FREAKS!! Crazies! Holy Rollers! Wackos! Not in any way mainstream!

There is a cult of FREAKS running this country!!

How many more women and children are trapped in evil like this?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

14. "They were weird looking people to begin with."

A nieghbor says when he found out about it, "It surprised me. But I wouldn't put it pass them. They were weird looking people to begin with."

Well there's an authority for you. :eyes:

[Tinoire]

17. taught children how to perform sexual acts with each other & with animals

(Excerpt)

Officials with the Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff's Office acknowledged investigating sexual crimes that they believe Lamonica and others committed and said they anticipate arresting Lamonica soon for crimes in their jurisdiction as well, Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff's spokesman Chuck Reed said.

On Monday, Lamonica talked to Livingston Parish detectives about the sex crimes and gave them information on his own sexual activities involving sex with children and a dog, Carpenter said.

Lamonica told Livingston Parish detectives that he educated the children on how to perform sexual acts with each other and with animals, Carpenter said.

At this point, detectives don't know how many potential victims are involved but said they could range in age from toddlers to teens, Carpenter said.

(snip)

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/051805/pol_arrest001.shtml

[daleo]

18. Abusing cats, sex with children and animals, and old-time religion.

Like some kind of Frist-Santorum inspired nightmare.

[NNN0LHI]

19. Don't click on the link below unless you want to be sick for days!

And I am not kidding either. I wish I had not read this article. I still get sick thinking about this. Be prepared for the worst if you do decide to click on it. I read it days ago and I am still not over it. I doubt I ever will get over it. I am dead serious.

Don

http://www.nbc11.com/news/4483756/detail.html

Former SJ Cop Sentenced In Molestation Case

[Voltaire99]

20. Church and sherrif's deputy involved in molestation

Why, that isn't in keeping with the authority-figures-are-all-heroes post-9/11 brainwashing, is it?

Poor kids.

[0007]

22. The link isn't working for me. n/t

[NNN0LHI]

24. Here are more links below

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=tus&q=Tangipahoa+Parish+&btnG=Search+News

[Mad_Dem_X]

25. What. The. F*CK???!!!

There's got to be a special circle in Hell for people like this. :wow: :grr:

[Name removed]

26. Deleted message

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[Maddy McCall]

27. LINK: ONGOING CASE, PRAYER IN TANGI SCHOOLS

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050518/APN/505180563&cachetime=3&template=dateline

I just posted the article in LBN, so please reply about the prayer case there.

[blitzen]

28. link to updated story: Ponchatoula church cult cited in child rape, animal

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/051905/new_cult001.shtml

[Toots]

30. Not knowing their politics all I can say is

A Vile Person will not be called a Liberal. Isaiah 32:5
However if somehow they do vote Democratic I wish no less for them. At least these monsters are now off the streets but what have they bred?

[amazona]

35. Tangi is GOP and Livingston Parish outright KKK

I do not believe these ****wits are Democrats. The odds are way against it.

The story seems almost too over-the-top to be true -- but with the reputable Baton Rouge Advocate reporting, and apparently two of the man having already confessed to similar dirty deeds, I'm going to conclude that it is true. Ponchatoula is a beautiful little town with an attractive antique industry. It is a shame that a few evil ****tards are bringing such negative attention to the area. Cat, dog, and child ****ing are not the usual activities of this area, and I would hope the full force of the law is brought to bear on the guilty.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[understandinglife]

38. Truly fristian family (extended to pets) values.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - Be it MNA Day 3 or 8 or 15 or .... the day will come when 10s of millions of Americans and others stop their typical activities for 24 hours and urge 10 times that many to join should another MNA Day be required. On that glorious day America will have begun truly to be "America," again.

[IronLionZion]

39. what the hell?

i think i'm going to be sick :puke: disgusting

[Megahurtz]

40. This doesn't surprise me at all.

Whackos abound everywhere!:freak::freak::freak::freak:
:puke:

[gordianot]

41. Not surprising but sickening.

A fundie church in Missouri encourages a single sex act between Father's and Daughters at the age of 12 or 13. There are more weird practices going on out there than can be tracked.

[PurityOfEssence]

43. Religion is based upon having superiority over others

The big whatever has the right to do whatever it pleases to anyone. Those who believe in the big whatever have more rights than heathens. Getting others to submit is the soul of the problem. Why is it surprising that hyperreligious nutcases kill, rape and dominate?

There's a pervasive mindset that says that belief in the supernatural makes one a better person. That's crazy. Belief in the supernatural makes one unassailable among other believers.

Once one accepts weird shit as truth, other weird shit simply follows.

Why is it any surprise that those whose worldview is hierarchical tend to dominate and abuse the weak? This isn't just coincidental.

[katty]

53. Quick! call Gannon for talking head analysis of what went wrong

[Tansy_Gold]

55. How does a human being have sex with a cat?

Seriously, I find this particular claim difficult to believe. Not impossible, but difficult.

For one thing, I don't know too many cats that are large enough to accept a human penis, even a small one, without major injury.

But second, what self-respecting cat stands still (pun intended) for that kind of treatment? Most cats are only front-paw declawed, so it would still have hind claws, and even if these folks (disclaimer -- I did NOT read the full article) were only f***ing totally declawed cats, wouldn't the animals squirm and bite and generally avoid being penetrated? And if the cats still had all their claws, well, I'm female and I don't even want to think of what it would feel like to have cat claws sinking into one's penis and/or testicles.

If I missed something in the article itself, my apologies.

[blitzen]

56. UPDATE: Another Arrest Made in Case of Bizarre Sex Ring

http://wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=3368964

[tom_paine]

57. More Bushevik Family Values