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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:28 PM
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Hardliners reject Koran apology
Edited on Mon May-16-05 04:30 PM by Zorra
(From BBC)

Hardline Islamic parties in Pakistan say an apology by a US magazine over a story about a desecration of the Koran is a crude bid to ease Muslim anger.

Newsweek said US interrogators at Guantanamo Bay flushed a copy of the Koran down a toilet. It now says it erred in reporting the story.

But White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the decision not to issue a full retraction was "puzzling".
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"There have been reports by the prisoners who have been released from Guantanamo Bay of desecration of the holy Koran, and different atrocities perpetrated on them. Therefore, the clarification of Newsweek has no meaning."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4553015.stm
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:30 PM
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1. Buzzword alert! "Hardliners"
You see, because they have separate and additional sources of information other than Newsweek, they are Hardliners.


"There have been reports by the prisoners who have been released from Guantanamo Bay of desecration of the holy Koran, and different atrocities perpetrated on them. Therefore, the clarification of Newsweek has no meaning."

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:19 PM
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11. ME not happy with Newsweek selling out either... --------------> IMAGE
Edited on Mon May-16-05 10:20 PM by bpilgrim
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:32 PM
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2. Seeing that these hardline Islamics haven't
drank the kool-aid... I buy that.

It's a sad state of affairs when ALL news coming from abroad seems to be more credible than american msm.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:33 PM
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3. Looks like KKKarl's little ploy may have backfired... n/m
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:56 PM
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4. My suggestion
Print up a few tens of thousand of toilet paper with *'s picture on it and ship it to Afganistan.

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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:04 PM
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5. I love your tolit paper roll... where can I buy it? LOL
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:43 PM
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9. Wish I had it to sell
Just photoshop stuff.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:04 PM
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10. Great photoshop photo!
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 11:53 PM
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15. Thank you
It's fun too.
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m0nkeyneck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:21 PM
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6. must have been a powerful toilet...
"Insulting the Koran or the Prophet Muhammad is regarded as blasphemy and punishable by death in both Pakistan and Afghanistan."

killing over a book and a myth.. wow

i wonder how long b4 insulting the bible and jebus will be punishable in the US.

Stupid things ppl fight over; how embarrassing it is to be human 2day
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:25 PM
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7. The Genie is already OUT of the bottle...To Late!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:34 PM
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8. It's the torture, stupid
Flushing the Koran down the toilet is just the tip of the iceberg. Raping women, covering prisioners in their own feces, using attack dogs, sensory deprivation, verbal abuse all add up to TORTURE. There was a time we didn't do that in the US.
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old blue Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:24 PM
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13. nail on head
Yep. Even if, somehow, this Newsweek report is *not* ultimately based on truth, the White House invited this type of suspicion from both domestic and foreign media outlets the very minute it appointed Al Gonzales as AG.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:24 PM
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12. I. Am. Shocked.
whaddya mean they don't believe that the heart-felt retraction was really and truly genuine(cross our hearts and hope you die)...?
someone oughta really flush a koran down the toilet- that would show'em-

woouldn't it...?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:49 PM
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14. What about this GRAVEN IMAGE CRAP?
Unless everybody's forgotten about it, it needs to be reminded that Islam takes the "graven images" concept very literally. As such, there is no image of Mohammed to be seen and even a biopic bearing his name can't show his image. If that's the case, that idolatry isn't to be allowed, then why is a book more sacred than any golden calf ever seems to have been? Is this not a huge inconsistency?
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 07:51 AM
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16. not as big an inconsistency as the usual muslim attitude towards
other religions: Islam traditionally tolerates "religions of the Book" (Judaism and Christianity), albeit with limited rights; but Islam traditionally does not tolerate polytheism (Hinduism). These traditional Islamic precepts are the law in a variety of countries. More, in Saudi Arabia, no one is allowed to possess a Bible, and Christian worship even in private is not permitted. Saudi Arabia will not knowingly allow Jews to enter the kingdom. Critics of Islam, such as Ibn Warriq ("Why I am Not a Muslim", Prometheus Press), have noted the hypocrisy of muslims who react with outrage at insults to their own religion but who often show disrespect towards other religions.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 07:58 AM
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17. ABC had a Islamic man last night who saw right through this
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=762798

Above is the link to the ABC WNT story but it strangely doesn't include the quote from a "man on the street" in Afghanistan or Iraq-he said"This seems to be deliberately done by the US government to set up this magazine to take the fall" something like that
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