Russia spy chief says foreigners plotting uprisings

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http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5779439&cKey=1115925629000

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Moscow's spy chief said on Thursday foreign intelligence services were planning uprisings on the lines of Ukraine's "Orange Revolution" to further undermine Russian influence in the former Soviet Union.

Federal Security Service (FSB) head Nikolai Patrushev's comments reflected Russian distrust for the new pro-Western leaders of Ukraine and Georgia. He said foreign spies were using non-governmental organisations (NGOs) as a front.

Russia had uncovered U.S., British, Kuwaiti and Saudi spies trying to weaken Russia, he said.

"Foreign secret services are ever more actively using non-traditional methods for their work and with the help of different NGOs' educational programmes are propagandising their interests, particularly in the former Soviet Union," he told deputies of the State Duma lower house of parliament.

[LSparkle]

1. Hmm ... wonder if this has anything to do with US paying for ...

the Georgian spectacle.

[Dover]

2. Revolutions- R-Us..............except in our own country, apparently.

Although they have been working hard to keep the U.S. divided and divisive.

Revolutions and arms/drug sales seems to be our strongest export these days. Our twentyfirst century industries!

[LSparkle]

3. and terraterraterra 24/7

[Frederik]

4. There's every reason to believe

they're telling the truth. The Cold War isn't over. After Serbia, Georgia, Ukraine and Kyrgyzstan, who's next?

[Dover]

5. ...you've forgotten the neocon revolution in the U.S.

[Daphne08]

6. I'm of the mind that the Neoconservatives are attempting to

bring about a new Cold War (as if we don't already have enough problems in the world). Perhaps I'm mistaken, but it certainly appears that way.

[pnutchuck]

7. With North Korea flaunting their nuclear arsenal, it's only a matter of

time before the schools start training the kids to hide under their desks in case of a nuclear missile attack. Like that's going to save them....

[bennywhale]

8. Belarus

Last dictatorship in Europe. Just ripe for a McDonalds in the Capital Cities public square

[Frederik]

10. Yeah, they already tried that

once didn't they? They seem to get progressively more adept at bringing about these revolutions, so we'll see.

[bennywhale]

11. They are behind every

twitching curtain on the planet.

Its strange cos a bi-polar world of cold war is beginning to feel safer, rather than this omnipotence of only one superpower.

Both powers were constrained by circumstance in the cold war, no no-one can stop them.

[Lexingtonian]

21. yes, they are

But those post-Soviet kleptocracies and oligarchies run by unregenerate ex-'Communist' totalitarians aren't worth a damn to the common people they rule and steal from now, and at times kill. They're indefensible on their own terms. You can propose that becoming democracies manque mostly dependent on EU, Arab, Japanese, or American aid is somehow a worse fate but that's hard to credibly maintain as a position. And it's a good thing these are all weak states, in a way, so that no material threat to Russia is realistic.

Who's next...Belarus is sort of an insult to Europe and a glaring problem. The Caucasus countries, except to some degree Azerbaijan, are out of ex-Communist hands. The Central Asian republics were thought to remain in the hands of the ironfisted ex-Communist sorts longest, but the Kirgizh started things rather earlier than anticipated and Uzbekistan has caught the bug too. Leaving Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and (the regional biggie) Kazakhstan.

Russia proper I hope no one targets for attempted uprisings and such. It wasn't a colony like these other societies were, it was the society that was source of the colonization. It has to develop -mature- its way out of its designs of empire on its own.

Don't weep for the Soviet empire and its imperialism. Don't get caught up imagining that the Bush people really think they can do much with these start-up (but genuine, compared to Iraq) democracies. This is the ending of the Cold War- picking up where all the tin pot dictatorships of the 1920s and 1930s left off.

[bennywhale]

9. These aren't real revolutions, they are engineered coups

to install right wing, free market fundamentalists, who are American friendly.

Thus Oil, other resources to rape, and get some central Asian's to get addicted to McDonalds

[Moderator]

12. kick to combine

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13. Russia Accuses West of Spying Fomenting Unrest

Russia’s security chief accused US and other foreign intelligence services of using non-governmental organisations to spy on Russia and foment political upheaval in former Soviet republics, and warned that Moscow’s “opponents” were bent on weakening the country.

The bellicose remarks yesterday by an ally of President Vladimir Putin reflect concerns in the Kremlin as it grapples with waning regional clout after the ascent of pro-Western governments on its borders, and fears of outside meddling in Russia itself amid US warnings against backsliding on democracy.

“Along with classic forms of influence on political and economic processes, foreign intelligence agencies are ever more actively using non-traditional methods,” including working through “various non-governmental organisations,” Federal Security Service chief Nikolai Patrushev told lawmakers.

He said the groups included the Peace Corps – which pulled out of Russia in 2003 amid FSB spying allegations – as well as the British medical charity Merlin, the “Saudi Red Crescent” and a Kuwaiti group he called the Society of Social Reforms.A spokeswoman for Merlin, speaking on condition of anonymity from its London office, said it “categorically denies any allegations that it has been involved in espionage operations or activities.” She said Merlin had worked in Russia since 1996, fighting tuberculosis.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4548181

[LiberalVoice]

14. "Saudi Red Crescent"

Makes you wonder how the US would have spies in a Saudi relief organisation.

[Gloria]

15. Posted directly from RIA Novosti earlier....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3648421&mesg_id=3648421

Peace Corps helping to foment "velvet revolutions" in fmr. Russian areas??



From the new World Media Watch up now at http://www.zianet.com/insightanalytical
Tomorrow at Buzzflash.com

Another example of how Bushco has perverted everything...even the Peace Corps. I would tend to believe it.....



4//RIA Novosti, Russia 13/05/2005



FSB BELIEVES FOREIGN NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIOINS PREPARE NEW “VELVET REVOLUTIONS”



MOSCOW, May 12 20:06 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) has information on preparation of new velvet revolutions on the post-Soviet space by a number of foreign non-governmental organizations. "Foreign special services are proactively using non-traditional methods. They promote their interests using educational programs of various non-governmental organizations and collect information, particularly, on the post-Soviet space," FSB director Nikolai Patrushev told the Russian State Duma deputies.



According to him, the Russian special services know that a western non-governmental organization allocated about $5 million to finance a velvet revolution in Belarus.



"Moreover, oppositionists who made the orange revolution in Ukraine can be involved in the training of Belarussian oppositionists," Patrushev added.



Among these non-governmental organizations are the US Peace Corps, the Red Crescent from Saudi Arabia, some Kuwaiti organizations and others, he said.



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16. Russia says 'spies' work in foreign NGOs

Nick Paton Walsh in Moscow
Friday May 13, 2005
The Guardian

Russia's security chief accused Britain and America of using civic groups as a front for spies yesterday, and blamed similar operations for fomenting recent uprisings in other former Soviet republics.

Nikolai Patrushev, the director of the KGB successor Federal Security Service (FSB), told parliament that his agency had uncovered spies working for the British and US governments, as well as for Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, operating under cover of non-governmental organisations.

Among those he named was the British medical charity Merlin, which denied the allegation last night.

"Foreign secret services are ever more actively using non-traditional methods for their work and with the help of different NGOs' educational programmes are propagandising their interests, particularly in the former Soviet Union," Mr Patrushev said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1482966,00.html

[salib]

17. Sounds quite possible to me.

Part of the grant PNAC (or is that PooBah?) scheme, with the UK along for the ride.

[BeHereNow]

18. Poobah fucking with Russia

is Poobah fucking with CHINA.
Not good, not good at all.
The fucking nerve of these hegemons!
BHN

[K-W]

19. Its not just possible, its been going on for decades. EOM

[0007]

20. Pagin Condoleezza Rice!

At your service daddy-0