One Month's Toll in Iraq: 67 Suicide Bombers

[chlamor]

One month's toll in Iraq: 67 suicide bombers

US losing battle to stem flow of foreign fighters prepared to die for cause

Michael Howard in Sulaimaniya and Ewen MacAskill
Thursday May 12, 2005
The Guardian

The number of suicide attacks in Iraq has reached a record high, with more than 67 insurgents blowing themselves up in the month of April alone.

New figures revealed by diplomatic and Iraqi security sources yesterday show that of the 135 car bombings that month, which took hundreds of lives and inflicted thousands of injuries, more than half were suicide missions. The number of car bombings has doubled since March.

The level of suicide attacks has raised fears that American and Iraqi forces are losing the battle to prevent foreign fighters, prepared to die for the cause of defeating the US occupation, entering the country.

Most suicide bombers are believed to come from outside Iraq, intelligence sources say, although they operate with local support.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1481885,00.html

[bpilgrim]

1. betcha them smart bombs cost MILLIONS less than ours...

and since we have 0 targets we probably haven't fired more than a dozen, if that, last month.

the Russians, Chinese, etc, arms dealers are laughing all the way to the bank.

the way we are behaving it is like the elite want us to self destruct. :argh:

peace

[mike_c]

2. well, I suppose it's poetic justice...

"Most suicide bombers are believed to come from outside Iraq, intelligence sources say...."

...since the main threat to Iraqi peace is also composed of foreign gunmen. Amazing what a difference only a couple of word substitutions can make.

[DrDebug]

13. Search for patterns in insurgency

I saw this interesting editorial and it said there is no pattern and no coordinated effort either. In short it's widespread anarchy where every group does their own thing.

Search for patterns in insurgency
A major US offensive in western Iraq aims to stem the flow of foreign fighters into the country.

By Peter Grier | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON – When it comes to insurgent attacks in Iraq, the only pattern is that there may be no pattern.

The recent upsurge in Iraqi violence, after a relative lull following national elections, has left US officials and outside experts alike groping for answers about the nature of the enemy. It's possible that the attacks are meant to take advantage of the new Iraqi government's struggles to organize itself, for instance. But it is at least as likely that the increase has been powered by reasons known only to the insurgents themselves, such as flagging morale or an increase in the availability of fighters or weapons.

Even to speak of "an insurgency" is something of a misnomer, as there are probably a number of insurgencies, split between foreign jihadis, die-hard Saddam Hussein followers, and anti-American opportunists. One expert compares them to a flock of birds or a school of fish who suddenly group, travel in formation, and then disperse - all without any central command.
(...)
But in truth neither the US nor the Iraqis themselves understand the rhythms of the fighting in the country, according to Council on Foreign Relations president emeritus Leslie Gelb.
(...)
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0511/p01s03-woiq.html

[dArKeR]

3. Can you give 1 out of 67 a Media link that offered any proof that it

was a suicide bombing? Any dental records, captured on video or picture, several eyewitnesses not associated with a particular group... How is it that the Israelis can 100% of the time find the suicide bomber's family and destroy their home?

Is there anyone left who can use their own brains to at least try to be objective?

[ECH1969]

4. I do think there are some Iraqi wahhibi Sunnis

blowing themselves up. But, overall the Iraqi Sunnis are pretty secular compaired to the Shia.

[chlamor]

5. This line certainly merits analysis

" US losing battle to stem flow of foreign fighters prepared to die for cause "

How about chasing a dragon's tail?
The problem as leading war criminal Wolfie stated was those foreigners coming into Iraq to fight. Hmmm.

[dArKeR]

8. If they're willing to die then why don't they do something in their own

countries? I honestly believe it would be less dangerous and easier to get away by doing some kind of act in their own countires.

Why would the Iraqi rebels allow some "foreign" person whom they know nothing about into their cell. The rebels obviously know America has the biggest and best intelligence network in the world and obviously America is trying to break into these rebel cells. Do you think and Iraqi rebel group would take the chance? What about the story of the helicopter shot down and all killed except the one guy they told to run and they shot him. That was supposedly solved/rebels found someone turning them in. Why is it assumed in the American Whore Media and our politicians that Iraqis/Arabs are stupid?

[chlamor]

11. The concept of the nation- state

isn't quite what it seems. The lines AREN'T drawn in the sand and in fact it was the West who 'drew' the artificial demarcations.
The US intelligence as the best in the world? Maybe a historical examination is in order to substantiate that claim.
The "Iraqi Rebels" are not one group they are numerous but in pretty much solidarity in wanting the foreign invader out. The other "Arab Nations", again an ill conceived construct, are quite aware of the ramifications of permanent US military bases in Mesopotamia.

Those involved are not concerned with "less danger" and "ease" it appears.
Why is it assumed the Iraqis/Arabs are stupid? Racism?

It's all speculation but patterns of behavior provide evidence.

[dArKeR]

12. I still think they'd make more NEWS if they did a suicide bombing in

what was an untouched place. An western cafe, a foreign cultural center... Why would a "foreign fighter blow himself up infront of some Iraq citizens hoping to become police recruits? There's so much death in Iraq no one is even paying attention anymore. Why would a foregin fighter travel all that way when he could do something at home? I bet there is a 70% chance a unknown "foreign fighter" would be killed by the Iraqi rebels because they suspect him of being a US spy. Therefore, I just don't believe there are any foreign fighters in Iraq, it's bull crap propaganda to make the US public think that everything in Iraq would have gone as aWol planned if it were not for the "foreign fighters." The Iraqi's love us it's the "Al Qaeda foreign fighters" who are causing trouble.

[bpilgrim]

6. population is much greater in Iraq

and the Israelis essentially have the Palestinians locked up in camps and have for DECADES so they have much better records and control and it's way too dangerous for our 'reporters' to step out side the green-zone.

if the resistance is actually able to mount that many suicide bombers a month we are in deep shit since there is no defense for that.

peace

[dArKeR]

7. Good point but if all true as Rumsfeld says, then wouldn't they have

at least some Michael Jackson type evidence?

And why no talk about dental records or DNA evidence of the suicide bombers?

[bpilgrim]

10. i hear ya

we are kept in the dark and fed shit. :argh:

peace

[Media_Lies_Daily]

9. And which intell sources are claiming that the suicide bombers are....

...coming from outside Iraq?