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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:31 PM
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Congress Approves Additional $82B for Wars
May 10, 6:29 PM EDT

Congress Approves Additional $82B for Wars

By LIZ SIDOTI
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congress approved an additional $82 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan and combating terrorism worldwide on Tuesday, boosting the cost of the global effort since 2001 to more than $300 billion.

The Senate approved the measure by a 100-0 vote Tuesday. The House easily approved the measure last week. It now goes to President Bush for his signature, which is certain.

The fifth such emergency spending package Congress has taken up since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the bill includes sweeping immigration changes, a nearly tenfold increase in the one-time payment for families of troops killed in combat, and money to build a sprawling U.S. Embassy in Iraq.

Most of the money - $75.9 billion - is slated for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, while $4.2 billion goes to foreign aid and other international relations programs.
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRAQ_SPENDING?SITE=SCCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:34 PM
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1. Ehhh...what's another $82B? That's just $275 for each US citizen
no problem.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:44 PM
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13. Too Bad there are no homeless people
No seniors needing prescriptions

No hungry children to feed.

IN AMERIKA
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:37 PM
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2. Chicken shits keep making these emergency supplemental
bills to avoid debate. If all this war stuff is legit,what are they afraid of?
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:38 PM
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3. Not a single senator voted against this?!? That's an outrage.
Does anyone know how many voted against it in the House?
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Itsthetruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:55 PM
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8. About 40
I think around 40 members of the House voted against funding for the Iraq war and occupation.

The politicians don't see any big protests against the war. It's not that people are not opposed to the war. The opposition among the general public is higher than ever in spite of the dissolution of the anti-war movement.

The problem is most anti-war organizations and leaders refuse to unite and call big and sustained actions. They are mainly doing their little thing while refusing to unite to do big and meaningful things against the war.

And last year many anti-war groups and activists were very busy campaigning for pro-war Democratic candidates who were "less evil" than Republicans. The anti-war movement was virtually dissolved. It's very hard to rebuild.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:11 PM
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14. One idea is to target ( i.e. lobby) DEM reps. specifically....
as, in the first place, they ought to know better and in the second, they might be more sensitive to the implied threat of a defection to an anti-war challenge... in the sense of a primary challenge, for instance.

There doesn't seem to be anyone *lobbying* these people. What little organized opposition to the war that there is (United for Peace and Justice) seems focused on producing street demos every year or so... and street demos are not what's going to bring this demented war to an end.

What might end it is a little pressure on these Democratic quislings in the House and the Senate.

100 to 0. Cheeezzz. Disgusting.

I'm not donating to the state or nat'l party til the party takes a firm position on ending the war.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:47 AM
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20. 54 Democrats and 3 Republicans
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:39 PM
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4. NOT A SINGLE WORD ABOUT NATIONAL ID
It's ridiculous!
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:44 PM
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6. Not a single word where?
In the AP piece? Other than "sweeping immigration changes" you're right.

But I think every Senator who spoke against the supplemental mentioned the REAL ID. It has no place in an emergency supplemental bill...beside the fact it has no basis in the Constitution.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:49 PM
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7. If it had no place in the bill, we should have voted no and been all over
the news about it. They can't smear us if we get to it first. If every democratic senator got together to make a big ass press release, the newspapers would cover it, no doubt. It's another example of dems hiding with their tails between their legs.

"Sweeping immigration changes" doesn't refer to national id IMHO. If it was sweeping immigration changes, it wouldn't include citizens that were born here getting the ID's.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:44 PM
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5. Sh*t, they just raised the damned debt limit to 9 trillion - quietly and
without needing a vote. Sorry for the source, but it just was NOT covered by the MSM much. This was all I could find when I googled.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050503-053156-9327r.htm

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Washington, DC, May. 3 (UPI) -- The U.S. House has sent legislation to the Senate that would raise the federal debt limit to nearly $9 trillion, a $781 billion increase.

The House agreed to the increase under an automatically executing provision in the 2005 budget resolution approved by the House and Senate late last week.

The House officially sent the Senate a separate piece of debt-relief legislation increasing the limit as mandated by the self-executing provision in the budget resolution.

Gaining approval of the separate bill through the gambit avoided the need for a politically costly debate on the House floor over increasing the debt ceiling again and highlighting the inter-party split on the issue.

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Itsthetruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:59 PM
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9. Mmmmmmm
Even during the Vietnam War we had Democratic Senators who voted against requests for war funding made by a Democratic President!

Where is the "opposition party" and where did the "anti-war" and "anti-ID" Senators disappear to? Senator Reid led them to vote for it!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:00 PM
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10. dog & pony show continues - GOP should stop bitching
they are get their $ for more wars-no problem!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:07 PM
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11. From our pockets to the contractors pockets.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:06 PM
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12. Including $23 million for a baseball stadium, $32 million for roads in CA,
And a whole slew of other pork.

I notice the US StenoMedia doesn't bother reporting on the pork, though, or the 38 of 56 republicans who voted NO for funding uparmored humvees for the troops.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:38 PM
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15. so the national ID card went through?
without a peep?
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:45 PM
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16. YEP.. as I believe it goes......
and thats all folks.
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:56 AM
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22. Both the "small government" and the "civil rights" party ...
... voted for it. Cute, no? I can't believe I gave money to these idiots last year.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:19 AM
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17. kick
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:38 AM
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18. WP: Congress Approves $82 Billion for Wars
This morning I surfed all the Senate Dem websites looking for their statements on apending the "Real ID" provision to this bill. Results are in a new post in GD and an except in lalarawraw's HR418/Real ID thread in GD.

One phrase repeated itself throughout the sites: "must pass legislation". Either the rethugs have browbeat the dems into submission, or the dems are just corporate shills. The only dem who consistantly is speaking out against the war on Iraq is Dennis Kucinich (must recently in House morning business today).

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/AR2005051001145.html

Congress Approves $82 Billion for Wars
Iraq Cost to Pass $200 Billion; Army to Ask for More

By Jonathan Weisman and Shailagh Murray
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, May 11, 2005; A01

The Senate gave final passage yesterday to an $82 billion emergency war-spending bill, sending President Bush a measure that will push the cost of the Iraq invasion well past $200 billion. Even with such large, unanticipated expenditures, Army officials and congressional aides say more money will be needed as early as October. The Army Materiel Command, the Army's main logistical branch, has put Congress on notice that it will need at least two more emergency "supplemental" bills just to finance the repair and replacement of Army equipment. By 2010, war costs are likely to exceed half a trillion dollars, according to nonpartisan congressional researchers. "We're fighting a war on supplementals, and it's a hell of a way to do business," said retired Army Lt. Gen. John M. Riggs, who until last year was working on the Army's modernization plans. "The base budget of the U.S. Army needs to be adjusted to fight the war on terror, and I have no idea where the money is going to come from."

The final spending measure was nearly identical in cost to the $81.9 billion request Bush submitted in February. Most of the debate in Congress revolved not around the money but around unrelated immigration measures. The bill includes a provision that would make it more difficult for illegal immigrants to acquire driver's licenses that the federal government would recognize as identification. It would also expand the list of terrorism-related activities that will make an immigrant inadmissible or deportable, tighten rules on political asylum, and add federal powers to ease construction of border barriers. The Senate unanimously approved the spending measure. The House gave final approval to the bill last week, 368 to 58.The bill provides the Defense Department nearly $76 billion on top of $25 billion already appropriated mainly for Iraq for the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30. It also contains $5 billion for foreign policy efforts, including $1.28 billion to construct and operate a U.S. embassy in Baghdad that will be among the world's largest, $660 million for tsunami relief, $200 million for aid to the Palestinians, and $370 million in relief for the conflicts in Sudan.

The overwhelming vote and the desultory debate over the mounting cost of the war in Iraq belied concerns that the war is taking a toll on both the U.S. Treasury and the military's efforts to retool for the future. For fiscal 2005, the Pentagon has now been allocated about $100 billion for war costs, 45 percent more than last year. That total is nearly 30 percent of the $350 billion deficit the federal government is projected to run this year. With the president's signature, the government will have allocated $350.6 billion for war-related spending since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Congressional Research Service estimates. Since 2003, Congress has given the Defense Department $183 billion for Iraq, while appropriating an additional $25 billion to other government agencies operating in Iraq, such as the State Department, for a total of $208 billion, according to the CRS. During last year's presidential campaign, the Bush team excoriated Democratic challenger John F. Kerry for asserting that the war would cost $200 billion.

An additional $74 billion has been appropriated for Afghanistan. Still more has been spent on enhanced security and other military operations that stemmed from the 2001 attacks. The recently passed budget resolution assumes that an additional $50 billion will be spent in 2006, but few congressional aides thought war costs would stay that low. "It's your money, Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer," mocked Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.). Indeed, some lawmakers are pressuring the administration to rein in supplemental requests, especially for items that could hardly be viewed as unforeseen emergencies. The latest emergency bill includes $5 billion to help reorganize and equip the Army into smaller "modular" brigades, a move that was announced in 2003. Members of Congress complain that the emergency process denies lawmakers' oversight powers and keeps Iraq costs off the deficit projections for future years. "It's dangerously irresponsible," Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) warned in February. Although support for the current package was overwhelming, lawmakers insisted it is the final straw.

more.....
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:43 AM
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19. AP & WP have identical headlines on different stories
This one from by WP reporters and the lead story in this thread by the AP: "Congress Approves Additional $82B for Wars By LIZ SIDOTI Associated Press Writer"

Very strange.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:51 AM
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21. strange...but not surprising
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