Germany's Far Right Decries 'Cult Of Guilt'

[Mark E. Smith]

AP via MSNBC 5/8/05

Thousands join protest rally in Berlin

BERLIN - About 3,000 supporters of a German extreme-right party protested in Berlin Sunday against a "cult of guilt" they say was imposed on the nation after the Nazis were defeated 60 years ago.

The National Democratic Party supporters were ringed by police on central Alexanderplatz square, some waving party flags in red, white and black - the colors used by the Nazis and imperial Germany. Sunday was the anniversary of Nazi Germany's surrender on May 8, 1945.

The National Democratic Party dismissed organizers of official remembrances on its Web site as "occupation collaborators and a group of professional Jews," and called for "an end to the cult of guilt."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7780786/

The big difference between the far right of Germany and our own home grown version? In Germany your average fascist dreams of being the new Hitler, whereas your right-loon here wants everyone to believe that he is the exclusive voice of God.

[whistle]

1. Here they go again.....

...just open the top of the coffin a crack and out they swarm:sarcasm: Evil bastards!

[Solly Mack]

2. I see they've read Shrub's playbook on "How to Win Hearts and Minds"

[tmooses]

3. I think Shrub's playbooks's author was Goebbels.

n/t

[Solly Mack]

5. I'd agree

[rockdino]

4. "Germany's Far Right Decries 'Cult Of Guilt'"

Yeah, they gathered, but couldn't´t march because about 6.000 real democrats blocked their way and the police told the bloody fascists to call it a day. There is still hope that the brown dirt can be fought.

[AlmightyTallest]

15. Thanks for the info

the article didn't make that clear. This kinda stuff scares the crap out of me. I worry sometimes what will happen when all the survivors of the holocaust are gone. :(

[rockdino]

18. It will not be forgotten!

When the survivors are all gone there are still their children and grandchildren to keep up the memory! And, of course, people like you and me. I talk a lot with friends about this subject and sometimes I could and still can open their eyes to the real goals of the brown sh..! As long as the true stories are around I see hope.

[bullwinkle428]

6. They probably develop most of their tactics

just by surfing Free Republic regularly...

[Kellanved]

7. German neo-Nazi march stopped on WW2 anniversary

BERLIN (Reuters) - A neo-Nazi march in Berlin was stopped by thousands of anti-fascist demonstrators on Sunday after a tense standoff that overshadowed Germany's ceremonies marking the end of World War Two in Europe 60 years ago.

Berlin police said 6,000 demonstrators opposed to the far-right National Democratic Party (NPD) crowded into streets around Alexanderplatz square where 3,300 right-wing extremists gathered to protest what they called a German "cult of guilt".

Eager to prevent the violence that flares when leftists try to stop far-right marches, authorities ordered the NPD to stay at Alexanderplatz behind a buffer zone of barricades and police. Two hours later the NPD decided to abandon the march.

Anti-Nazi demonstrators, many sitting on streets in front of water canon, cheered when police announced on loudspeakers that the march was cancelled.

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http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-05-08T190615Z_01_HOL849771_RTRUKOC_0_EUROPE-WAR.xml

I was among the "6000"; IMHO number was more like 10.000. We held our city.




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[tom_paine]

10. God Bless You for standing up to YOUR Busheviks

Would that Imperial Amerika had your courage to do the same.

But be vigilant. The center of this version of the Growing Totalitarian Darkness is Imperial Amerika, and while we succeed in discrediting the ideas of truth, freedom, and democracy, unquestionably the Forces of BushPutinism in all it's forms, including Nazism, will continue to feel emboldened and will continue to use the same tactics that have been so successful here in Amerika.

Vigilance. It's 1939 again, and this time is is the Imperial Subjects of Amerika who have gone insane, collectively and purposefully deluded, and who threaten the world with Totalitarian Darkness.

Believe me, your German Nazis are watching closely, studying, copying, and feeling simply wonderful about things in Amerika, which to them must finally be "seeing the light" regarding the positive benefits of Totalitarianism.

Vigilance. If we fail to stem the tide here, it will be up to Free World in places like Germany to keep the darkness at bay.

[AlmightyTallest]

16. Fantastic

I love seeing the flags of various nations there. It sends a nice message.

The media always tends to downplay crowd size. I found this story scary at first but knowing there were twice as many counter protesters is comforting. Thank you so much for being there. :)

[Kellanved]

17. There were many more counter-protesters

The "6,000" number are just the direct "by all means" counter protesters; there were several other events. "Democracy day", the one blocking the Brandenburg Gate to stop the Nazis from moving through it, drew a crowd of 100,000 (officially). Many of those considered themselves to be counter-protesters as well.

[tom_paine]

8. Wow, it's the German Freepers!

Let us pray they do not have as much success BushPutinizing their nation as the Busheviks have in BushPutinizing ours.

Due to the Amerikan Character held over from 225 years of freedom, we will likely follow more closely the Imperial Roman track to Tyranny, but if the German Ann Coulters are successful, then it is entirely possible they will be nearly as horrific as the last time.

Also, they will have the full support of the Busheviks, though they may have to pretend for a short time that they are aghast.

[calzone]

9. I would say that the right in the U.S....

is only partly characterized by fundies, I don't know what the % is, but I don't think it's the majority...yet. I'd say what defines the right for me is an unfettered self-interest philosophy, a desire to privatize everything and let the "free mkt" run rampant w/no regulation, while at the same time regulating thru legislation personal behavior issues that they perceive as representing a lack of individual responsibility...in essence they like to privatize everything except privacy. Self-enrichment seems to be the overriding golden calf, couched in euphemisms such as "freedom" and "success" and "the American dream". Anything with "social" in it's name is anathema: social programs, social security, social responsibilty..along with the tainted term "public" such as in public radio or TV. I've often heard these referred to with the derisive Marxist-referencing adjective "state" radio or TV. Even tho' it's an oversimplification, the "I got mine, you can get yours" philosophy seems to be appropriate when applied to the POV of the right, with the unspoken implication being that if you don't "get your own" it must be because of some intrinsic shortcoming on your part ie: lazy, stupid, emotionally or morally weak.
The comparison of the modern American right with Nazism is interesting to me in that one of the few areas where the left and the right here actually agree is in the recognition and complete condemnation of the holocaust. White supremists aren't a significant component of the present day American right from what I've seen. I'd be encouraged at this except for the fact that even a stopped clock is right twice a day. There's still the matter of the "compassion=weakness" outlook, and of course the sanctification of greed and selfishness by many on the right. It's not their exclusive domain, but they certainly have this territory under complete control...they've got Boardwalk and Park Place and all 4 R.R.'s, along with bunches of hotels. And they have the bank in their lap, with the currency backed by the same underpinnings.
In the end I'd say a better comparison would be with El Duce. A bundle of sticks.

[applegrove]

11. Funny - the only other people I have heard use that idea 'cult of guilt'

are the neocons.

Coincidence? I think not!

Right wingers just hate it with the empathy for people outside your own narrow group. AKA Democracy.

[Hosnon]

12. So they're pissed that they have to feel guilt for WWII?

Keep moving folks, nothing to see here...

[Democat]

13. "A group of professional Jews"?

Is that supposed to be an insult?

What is insulting about being a professional and being Jewish?

[joeybee12]

14. I saaw that and thought WTF? I interpreted it to mean that they

saw the people as being Jews as a profession, which makes even less sense.

Yup, lots of bright folks in this group!