Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’

[Terre]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1602568,00.html

ROFL!!!

And if you want some more chuckles, head on over to DailyKos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/7/203513/2265

TimesUK needs to move to the US!

[MuseRider]

1. Shaking my head.

That is it, just shaking my head. It would be funny if it wasn't so freaking sad and stupid.

[IChing]

2. more on the story

Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’
Christina Lamb and Mohammad Shehzad Islamabad

THE capture of a supposed Al-Qaeda kingpin by Pakistani agents last week was hailed by President George W Bush as “a critical victory in the war on terror”. According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists’ third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as “among the flotsam and jetsam” of the organisation.
Al-Libbi’s arrest in Pakistan, announced last Wednesday, was described in the United States as “a major breakthrough” in the hunt for Osama Bin Laden.

Bush called him a “top general” and “a major facilitator and chief planner for the Al- Qaeda network”. Condoleezza Rice, secretary of state, said he was “a very important figure”. Yet the backslapping in Washington and Islamabad has astonished European terrorism experts, who point out that the Libyan was neither on the FBI’s most wanted list, nor on that of the State Department “rewards for justice” programme.
Al-Libbi is just a ‘middle-level’ leader,” said Jean-Charles Brisard, a French intelligence investigator and leading expert on terrorism finance. “Pakistan and US authorities have completely overestimated his role and importance. He was never more than a regional facilitator between Al-Qaeda and local Pakistani Islamic groups.”

According to Brisard, the arrested man lacks the global reach of Al-Qaeda leaders such as Ayman al-Zawahiri, Bin Laden’s number two, Khalid Shaikh Mohammad, the mastermind of the September 11 attacks, or Anas al-Liby.

[Bigmack]

3. al-Libbi "mistaken identity"...

The US intel community could fuck up a Jello sandwich! Notice the story on al-Libbi broke on a nice midweek news day, and the clarification comes on a Saturday when nobody is watching.
- - - -
Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’
Christina Lamb and Mohammad Shehzad Islamabad

THE capture of a supposed Al-Qaeda kingpin by Pakistani agents last week was hailed by President George W Bush as “a critical victory in the war on terror”. According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists’ third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as “among the flotsam and jetsam” of the organisation.

Another Libyan is on the FBI list — Anas al-Liby, who is wanted over the 1998 East African embassy bombings — and some believe the Americans may have initially confused the two. When The Sunday Times contacted a senior FBI counter-terrorism official for information about the importance of the detained man, he sent material on al-Liby, the wrong man.

“Al-Libbi is just a ‘middle-level’ leader,” said Jean-Charles Brisard, a French intelligence investigator and leading expert on terrorism finance."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1602568,00.html

[warrior1]

4. shot their

wad too soon again I see.

[blogbear]

6. overly excitable and anxious 'boys'..

[ET Awful]

5. LMAO . . so they catch a guy nobody knew they were looking for,

they announce him as someone they were hunting as a top-level al qaeda leader, confuse people because he's not on any top terrorist wanted list, then follow up by saying he's a case of mistaken identity.

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[blogbear]

9. Another Oooooooops?

[i miss america]

32. What a fitting way to mark the 2nd anniversary of "Mission Accomplished"

:rofl:

[Terre]

38. I cannot wait until Monday's Press Briefing!

and hear what ole Scotty baby has to say to explain it.

Ya gotta love stories like these.

[NMDemDist2]

7. I expected as much, with *'s numbers dropping they had to come up

with something

the rat bast..... nevermind

[Goldeneye]

8. How many here thought this was BS as soon as it was released.

Let's get a count. Third in command...pfff.

[MidwestTransplant]

16. It wasn't BS. The even marched Shrub out to praise this. They just

screwed up and look like total morons.

[Goldeneye]

22. We'll see.

I wonder how many will find out he wasn't third in command. Maybe 1/3 who heard he was?

[zoeb]

31. It's sad...they re-ranked(to #3) and its the wrong guy...LMAO n/t

[oblivious]

65. Yes, it WAS obviously BS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3601789

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3600674#3600861

[Frederik]

70. No way

this is SOP. The "Al-Qaeda" that they are trying to sell doesn't exist anyway (as a multinational organization with "sleeper cells" and so on, anyway). They have to do this every once in a while to make it look like they are actually "hunting them down". They brought Shrub out to praise it because of his miserable approval ratings I guess. Nobody hears the correction anyway.

[d.l.Green]

115. That's it. A year from now polls will say that 80% of the sheeple still

believe that they caught #3. The continued Roviation of our illegitimate press.

[FourStarDemocrat]

77. Hope it's in time for the sunday talk shows to make hay out of it. n/t

[dchill]

62. Not really fair...

I think all their releases are BS.

But yeah, how could someone whose name never came up be the "number 3 man" ???

[kliljedahl]

10. The link's defective

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[Bigmack]

12. Yeah! Tested it 2 min before posting. WTF?

NT

[NNN0LHI]

20. The whole Times site is down. Give it a bit. They will fix it

Though you may wish to edit the actual headline into the subject line so the mods don't lock this?

Don

[Rose Siding]

24. It's working for me

:hi:

[Terre]

28. I think it's acting up

Kossacks were having trouble earlier as well. Might be that it's just busy?

It's loading slowly, but I got in. Posting it again, just in case:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1602568,00.html

[kliljedahl]

30. Works this time, thanks

[KoKo]

35. I linked it from Kos and didn't have a problem....dial up, too. Maybe it

just gets overloaded when a bunch of new folks read the article at the same time.

[elias49]

11. At least it wasn't Cat Stevens

again.

[Quakerfriend]

13. OMG LOL! thx for saying what I was thinking.

You made my night!

[NNN0LHI]

14. But the Pakistanis say he has been giving them very valuable information?

He looked like a bookie to me.

Don

[varun]

43. Useful information...

...in exchange for another $3 billion from US taxpayers?

[ConfuZed]

133. Poor guy

"The only operations in which he is known to have been involved are two attempts to assassinate Pervez Musharraf, "

...anything to save face

[MidwestTransplant]

15. Time for a terra alert

[peekaloo]

17. Sounds like they don't know their Anas from a hole in the ground.

:P

[Lochloosa]

19. Oh...they know their anus...cause it feels so good...n/t

[andino]

18. Well, at least they caught somebody.

[jasmeel]

21. Anyone see TDS last week with Tom Ridge? Stewart

was questionning the continuing capture of the 3rd in command of Al Qaeda. He said it happens alot!! Or I guess sometimes it doesn't happen at all ;)

[Goldeneye]

26. I did see that.

I wonder if Ridge feels silly now. He was so excited about catching the third in command...

[spooky3]

78. yes--Jon said there seem to be a lot of "#3's". Every time they

catch someone, they claim he's the #3. Jon had this one nailed, as usual.

[Rose Siding]

23. Bigmack, please edit your subject line

Published title:

"Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’"

Thank you

[peacetalksforall]

25. They probably needed that 'breakthrough' on the day it was announced.

In any case...the % of people who will learn of the 'mistake' will not equal the number of people who paid attention to the arrest. They win with the wrong guy! How lucky can they get? Lesson 23 from their how-to book. HOW-TO FEIGN AND CHEAT WITH PLANTED AND INACCURATE NEWS OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTs AND HOW TO FLASH IT AND KEEP IT GOING: how-to announce the correction is wee little news releases and get the corporate propaganda networks to bury the correction.

[BeFree]

39. They are good at this shit, aren't they?

Now, it gives them a chance to arrest # 3 all over again. More bonus points!

Ya know, we spend billions and billions on intelligence, and when they have a failure like this, it makes you wonder just how intelligent they really are.

Oh, I'm sure M$M will make sure this news travels as far as the mistake. :sarcasm:

[struggle4progress]

45. The news timing is deliberate, of course. And perhaps these shitheads ..

.. even decided before arresting the poor fellow that it would be politically useful to announce capture of a "top operative" at midweek and retract the story on the weekend.

[IChing]

27. nominated

lies misdirection centrifuge

[Rose Siding]

29. Richard Clarke was on Fox News today talking up the "significance"

of this arrest.

[KoKo]

34. Russert is scheduled to have the story on MTP tommorw as he interviews

a guy who has written a book about bringing BinLaden's head to Bush on ice..:D Wonder what Big Timmy will do with this latest revelation.

Imagine being told to "capture bin Laden, kill him, and bring his head back in a box." Those exact orders were given to our guest this Sunday, former Senior CIA Officer Gary Schroen. He was the CIA intelligence officer who led the first American unit into Afghanistan after September 11th. Schroen will discuss the hunt for Osama bin Laden, the recent capture of senior Al Qaeda operative Abu Farraj al-Libbi and his new book, "First In: An Insider's Account of How the CIA Spearheaded the War on Terror in Afghanistan" on this Sunday's "Meet the Press with Tim Russert."

[IChing]

33. He made coffee and photocopying

From the times article

No European or American intelligence expert contacted last week had heard of al-Libbi until a Pakistani intelligence report last year claimed he had taken over as head of operations after Khalid Shaikh Mohammad’s arrest. A former close associate of Bin Laden now living in London laughed: “What I remember of him is he used to make the coffee and do the photocopying.”

[rodeodance]

44. lots of 'analyists had been bragging up the Intel last few days--esp on

Fox which i flip to to see what they are up to.

[BornaDem]

36. I don't believe anything I read in the papers anymore...

I think they (our gov't and other gov'ts) plant stories here and abroad and I'm not even sure who they are planting them to fool. Since I don't have any means to know who tells the truth and when, I mostly don't put much stock in any of it until a lot of time passes and the story hasn't changed or I can figure out who is lying and why. I figured this story might be true when I first read it because it would make sense that Musharraf (sp?) would want captured the guy who was trying to knock him off.

[alcibiades_mystery]

37. Best line in the article

One American official tried to explain the absence of al-Libbi’s name on the wanted list by saying: “We did not want him to know he was wanted.”

This official will no doubt soon be picked by Bush to head the National Archives...Jesus, they're fucking dumb or goddamn brazen.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

41. “We did not want him to know he was wanted.”

My favorite line too.

Yeah, that's how those most-wanted lists work. Maybe they shouldn't even have one, and then all the guys they're after will be surprised! :eyes:

[Hand]

47. Incomplete quote

They left off: "...yeah... that's it."
:rofl:

[IChing]

54. incomplete quote was more like

"And it was me and Morgan Fairchild, yea that's the ticket."

[muriel_volestrangler]

66. They had him on double secret probation?

That's got to be Rumsfeld: "There are people we want to know they're wanted; and there are people we don't want to know they're not wanted. But there are also people we don't want to know they're wanted."

[alcibiades_mystery]

75. The Rumsfeldian Taxonomic Schema

Love it!

[LiberalFighter]

123. Geesh... So letting the others know they are wanted is okay????

I was definitely going to post that line if no one else had done it. How lame can they get?

[keopeli]

40. Not really news, since I didn't believe it in the first place.

[Huckebein the Raven]

42. So what else is new

[rodeodance]

46. Pak. is sticking to story that this chap is 3rd most important--so says

the article.

..... But this weekend the Pakistani government was sticking to the line that al-Libbi was the third most important person in the Al-Qaeda network....

[Frederik]

71. But all the Pakistani

officials that were interviewed about it gave different accounts of where he was caught and so on. This is just a fairy-tale. The "top lieutenants" of "al-Qaeda" are all top officers in Pakistan's security services anyway, not people like "al-Libbi".

[LiberalFighter]

125. Maybe 3rd most important to them?????

[number6]

48. just as I suspected ..

Incompetent fools ..

[Straight Shooter]

49. Negroponte.

Chief of intel. It's going to be a long stupid slog in America. Again.

[alarcojon]

50. What a bunch of morans

nuff said

[Andrushka]

51. So, this "kingpin"

used to make coffee and do photocopying? They caught al-Qaeda's office boy?!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I wonder how he answered the phone?

"Good morning, al-Qaeda Incorporated, this is al-Libbi speaking. How may I help you?...Sorry, Mr. bin-Laden is in a meeting right now, can I take a message and get him to call you back?"

[IChing]

60. Funny joke

Do you want one lump or two.

[DrZeeLit]

52. Quelle Surprise! Can you say.... FALLING POLL NUMBERS... or...

We thought you guys would look over here while we shored up our domestic problems... but then....

We also thought you guys.... er... um.... you wonderful voters you....
were.... STUPID...

Guess we were... wrong? NOOOOOO, we never, never admit we're wrong.

We were just kidding.
Yep, that's the ticket. Just kidding.
Can't take a joke, can you.


(I soooo hate these assholes. They really do think we are stupid. I cannot wait for their comeuppance. It is coming. I swear!)

[Terre]

53. Priceless comment

at dKos that I got a chuckle from:

----------------------------------

But you see, (4.00/4)

this guy will help lead them to the capture of a guy who sorta kinda looks like a guy who once did some yardwork for a guy whose sister once dated a guy who once valet parked a car for Osama Bin Laden!

News is what powerful people don't want you to hear. Everything else is publicity.-Bill Moyers
by jazzmaniac on Sat May 7th, 2005 at 19:59:09 PDT

[antonialee839]

55. Bwahahahaha

[DRoseDARs]

56. Imagine the shitstorm had this been (or rather NOT been) bin Laden...

"Opps ... but it's ok since we did seize a couple of iPods with mp3 recordings detailing his diabolical taste in music. We'll get him, dead or alive, the time after next. Trust us, we're winning the War on Terror on every front. Here, have some more Soma..."

[LiberalFighter]

126. Taste??? I don't think that is what they were checking...

Don't you know that hidden messages are imbedded into the lyrics that can be heard when played backwards?

[Hatalles]

57. This is ridiculous...

They capture this random Al-Qaeda chump and brand him "third-in-charge," the media headlines with the story for a couple days, and now it turns out this Al-Libbi is merely a grunt... and the MSM is...

*SILENT*

No edits, no retractions, nothing.

This is how the Rove's Dept. of Propaganda works, folks.

Sickening.

[The_Casual_Observer]

58. And don't forget this was the #3 guy, however, he didn't appear on

any US lists! Goes to show how screwed up the whole thing is.

[darkism]

59. Ha ha!

[oblivious]

61. Hours later, a Google check still shows him #3 in 517 articles.

If you want the real news, come to DU.

The corporate media is well and truly DEAD.

http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&gl=us&ncl=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1058999,00.html

[oblivious]

74. 7 hours later, Google still shows him the big #3 in 328 articles.

And shows the Times on Line article as the only one saying 'mistaken identity'. Priceless.

Oh, the humiliation.

[oblivious]

63. This was known days ago, but the media ignored it.

Keep in mind that the New York Times reported this in their original article on May 4, four days ago, but chose to hide it in the middle of the story in paragraphs 11 to 14, leaving the propaganda in the headline and opening 10 paragraphs of the article. None of the other major papers even reported any doubt as far as I was able to see.

from the NY Times (paras 11-13, May 4):
However, some European and Middle Eastern intelligence officials raised questions about Mr. Libbi's importance to the Qaeda organization.

Three officials said they were surprised to hear senior officials in the United States and Pakistan characterize Mr. Libbi as a highly ranked Qaeda commander. One Middle Eastern intelligence official said: "We don't have information that this man is or was the No. 3 man of Al Qaeda. This man was important for operations in Pakistan, but he is not the No. 3 man in the organization."

A senior German official suggested there may have been some confusion with Abu al-Liby, a Libyan-born senior Qaeda commander who was indicted for an "operational role" in the August 1998 bombings of two American embassies in east Africa. American officials have offered a $5 million reward for information leading to Mr. Liby's arrest. He is listed on the F.B.I.'s Most Wanted Terrorists List, while Mr. Libbi is not.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/04/international/asia/04cnd-pakistan.html?hp&ex=1115265600&en=e190d5eb9d779215&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=login

[LiberalFighter]

128. He is the third most highly ranked...

just not commander

He is their third most highly ranked photographer. Isn't that what all those pictures were?

[Hissyspit]

64. At least we got him 'Dead or Alive!'

/sarcasm

[brettdale]

67. Has cnn,faux,cbs,msnbc,nbc,abc

Annouced this yet?

[0007]

68. Can you believe this crap? And these folks are protecting us!

[brettdale]

69. National media List this!

Since most media dont want to know this story, perhaps some emails would make them tell the public the truth.

[ausiedownunderground]

72. Where is Iyad Allawi? Where are the Mahdi Army?

This is the Neo-crazies to a "tee". Get American hopes up that they can show the "Population" that they can still capture "high-ranking" terrorists when they want to! God, with Pakistan's help! You American's must be soooooo proud of your government! They are the best Terrorist capturer's in the world! Here in Oz our government is completely useless at capturing Terrorist's. Great at drug dealers, illegal immigrant's and foreign companies that "dump" their products!
The guy the Americans captured is useless. The real guy they need with the same surname is in Iran! Dowh!
Has anyone heard from General Mark Kimmit lately. Last we were told he had been re-deployed to Qatar.
How is Iyad Allawi going? Reports here in OZ say he was killed last week in an Iraqi Guerrilla ambush??
Reports here in Oz also reckon the Mahdi Army, newly re-armed and re-trained, is ready to take on the American Army, starting in Najaf? Shiites and Sunnis together. Its going to get hot in Iraq over Summer! for American GI's.

[Nothing Without Hope]

73. Unfortunately, most TV watchers will remember the original announcement

of triumph but not the correction. Same thing happens with retractions in newspapers - the original mistake is seen but the retraction is for all practical purposes invisible. They'll know about this travesty in the UK, but the US corporate media will move on to the next distraction du jour. And most watchers will be left with the idea of a major coup in capturing the "Third in Command."

[NNN0LHI]

76. All the terra experts were saying this guy would lead to bin Ladens arrest

So much for these people who claim to be experts on terrorism.

Don

[whometense]

79. Oops. Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1602568,00.html

by Christina Lamb and Mohammad Shehzad Islamabad

THE capture of a supposed Al-Qaeda kingpin by Pakistani agents last week was hailed by President George W Bush as “a critical victory in the war on terror”. According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists’ third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as “among the flotsam and jetsam” of the organisation.

Al-Libbi’s arrest in Pakistan, announced last Wednesday, was described in the United States as “a major breakthrough” in the hunt for Osama Bin Laden.

Bush called him a “top general” and “a major facilitator and chief planner for the Al- Qaeda network”. Condoleezza Rice, secretary of state, said he was “a very important figure”. Yet the backslapping in Washington and Islamabad has astonished European terrorism experts, who point out that the Libyan was neither on the FBI’s most wanted list, nor on that of the State Department “rewards for justice” programme...

[skylarmae]

80. does the 'keystone kops' come to mind to anyone but me?

the substandard behavior from this administration goes on and on and on and on.....

[whometense]

81. Oh yeah.

How many times has this happened now???

[saigon68]

90. “among the flotsam and jetsam"

All the (insert one of the following, rag, towel, wash cloth, hanky, napkin, kerchief)---HEADS apparently look alike to the amerikan Einsteins of intelligence and counter intelligence.

[whometense]

109. Love your

signature pic.

[leftchick]

94. I think of F-Troop

[Cooley Hurd]

103. WWCAD?

[dsc]

82. I figured something was up

it made no sense that this guy was third in command but not on any FBI lists.

[wtmusic]

83. The "news" has already been told

though the UK media prints the awful truth, most Americans will never be exposed to this side of the story

[IChing]

84. duplicate thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1453675&mesg_id=1453675

and its another morgan fairchild ticket.

[Dr Fate]

85. Yeah- but no red-staters will ever know that part.

Don't expect too many DEMs to make hay either.

[driver8]

86. Does the shrub administration have any idea who is who and what

is what in this world? They don't seem to know anything about anything!! They plod along interfering in everyone's business, getting involved in things they know nothing about, and then when something happens they pretend it is what they "meant to happen."

They blow smoke up their own asses when they don't know why they are blowing...they make statements to the public as "facts" when they never seem to have a fucking clue.

Has there ever been a more incompetent, ignorant, arrogant group of people in this world? Well, maybe Hitler and his Nazis...Chimpy and his cronies are not far behind.

[Frederik]

107. They know

They just don't want us to.

[Pachamama]

87. Wonder how long they tortured him before they figured this out?

:eyes:

[LynnTheDem]

88. Yet AGAIN a DUer is far ahead of the pack! Posted this guy was nothing

DAYS ago!

WELL DONE yet again, DU and 'oblivious'!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3601789

[whometense]

92. Wow.

Well done. I salute you!!!

[BrklynLiberal]

98. Kudos to Oblivious. He is smarter than the guys in Washington..and

more thorough than the Mainstream Media in fact checking!!!

[SmokingJacket]

127. Darn -- great stuff! it should have been nominated!

I know in another thread some people said Libbi looked dead in his photo. Others of us questioned why, if he was #3, he wasn't on the FBI list?

It's SO pathetic that people who are not professional journalists can smell the lies from a mile away, but the MSM never *ever* questions this shit.

And it's more pathetic that they are silent about this now.

[Historic NY]

89. This is worst then the stupid terror alert color codes.......we got him...

we don't, we got somebody. The gang that can't shoot straight. I knew something was wrong when they said he was number three, we got two of them before that were three's.

[anarchy1999]

97. ROTFLMAO! How many "threes" are there "out there"? Be AFRAID!

n/t

WAY better than the color alerts! Much more attention grabbing, don't you know!

[MaineDem]

91. Kick

The capture was ALL over the news. Why isn't the correction? (she asks rhetorically)

[SpiralHawk]

93. More mush from the wimp

BushCo knew it was lying about this guy. It's just more BushCo propaganda

[matcom]

95. MSRNC is reporting RIGHT NOW that he is a "mastermind"

:eyes:

RIGHT AS I TYPE THIS!

on edit: Michael Isakoff :puke:

[whometense]

96. The London Times website

is down right now. I've been hunting, and can't find the story anywhere else, except on the blogs.

[BrklynLiberal]

100. Guess it is up to us to spread the story around. I did send it to everyone

on my email list. Following David Ray Griffin's instructions..finding alternative means of spreading the truth since we certainly cannot rely on the mass media :D
EDIT: I also sent them a link to Oblivious' post with his EARLIER, PRESCIENT dissection of the facts, which the media never bothered to do.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3600674&mesg_id=3600861

[whometense]

102. Got this via google:

Times Online
... OUR APOLOGIES: TIMES ONLINE IS TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE. Our technical team
are currently at work fixing an important update to the Times Online Site ...
www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/ tim/99/03/24/timintint02010.html?999 - 7k - Cached - Similar pages

So maybe I'll take off my :tinfoilhat:.

[BrklynLiberal]

104. Before you take off your hat...let's see if the story is still there when

they come back up...

[whometense]

108. I know...

Don't want to jump the gun, do I?

I did get the story again a second ago - so they're still standing by it.

I wasn't surprised the east coast papers missed it, but I can't find anything in the LA Times, either.

[ihelpu2see]

99. Link does not work

please repost link

[whometense]

110. The London Times website

has been down a lot. Try it again: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1602568,00.html

I got it a few minutes ago.

[ihelpu2see]

113. works now... thanks eom

thanks

[Cooley Hurd]

101. I guess this means the #3 al Qaeda dude is still on the loose...

...all of them.;)

[Frederik]

106. Yes, all the

Pakistani goat farmers with really long, black, scary-looking beards and evil-sounding names. Look, its al-Qaeda! al-Qaeda is coming! Rally round the flag!

[whometense]

111. Did you see Jon Stewart

interview Tom Ridge the other day? He was asking about all the number 3's in Al Qaeda - "How many of them are there, anyway??"

Jon and staff are brilliant.

[warrior1]

105. here we go again

.

[NNN0LHI]

112. Truth drug and beatings fail to get al-Qa'eda No 3 to talk..I wonder why?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/08/walq08.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/05/08/ixworld.html

Intelligence officials who have been questioning Abu Faraj al-Libbi, the senior al-Qa'eda suspect arrested last week, have cast doubt over claims by the Pakistani prime minister, Shaukat Aziz, that the interrogation is "proceeding well".

The officials say that al-Libbi, who is believed to be al-Qaeda's number three, has defied efforts to make him reveal valuable intelligence about its senior hierarchy, despite coming under "physical pressure" to do so.

More than a dozen low-key al-Qa'eda targets were arrested in Pakistan last week thanks to information stored on al-Libbi's satellite telephone. Yet early hopes among both American and Pakistani intelligence officials that he would tell them the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawihiri, were dashed.

One senior intelligence official told The Telegraph: "So far he has not told us anything solid that could lead to the high-value targets. It is too early to judge whether he is a hard nut to crack, or simply that he doesn't know more than he has told us."

Al-Libbi had been beaten and injected with the so-called "truth drug", sodium pentothal, said the official. "They have tried all possible methods, from the 'third degree' to injecting him with a truth serum but it is hard to break him," he said.

[d.l.Green]

116. Truth serum- huh? I can think of a better criminal to use this on- * n/t

[matcom]

114. Russert on MTP

"capture of #3 man. "Significant" :eyes: "

way to go Timmy-Boy

[Algorem]

121. Pumpkinhead gotta do his job& up those approval ratings.

[catnhatnh]

117. George announces capture of #3 in terrorist network....

...by military in the insurgents operating area...Says the capture of Fred Washington will cripple the rebel forces...(BBC 1776)
And now the madness of our King George...

[Mad_Dem_X]

118. D'oh!

I just sent this to everyone on my email list.

:banghead:

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

119. Kick

:kick:

[suegeo]

120. Cannot find their own asses with both hands...

People in the Bush junta cannot find their asses with both hands.

Yeah, I guess I should feel safe what with these maroons in charge.

Republicans suck. And so do their corporate "news" whores.

[LiberalFighter]

129. That's the problem... they aren't using their own hands

[tom_paine]

122. Mission Accomplished: The vast majority of Imperial Amerikan Subjects

will miss the correction, reported ONLY in Free World News Soucres, not Amerikan Media, you can bet your ass on that!

How many Busheviks and other Dupes will be saying MONTHS from now, "Well, Bush DID capture the #3 al-Qaeda leader recently."

Mission a-fucking-complished.

'Mistaken identity' my ass. Just another Bush Propaganda Op.

A SUCCESSFUL Propaganda Op, as it seems they all are, these days.

[manly]

124. oops

I can just picture bin-laden doubled over in laughter at bush's latest remarks about this terrific capture of some nonentity, calling it a breakthrough. Bush must provide bin-laden with his best laughs.what an incredible asshole our president is.

[pagandem4justice]

130. Again and again...

With as many of these "kingpins" and "top lieutenants" as they've captured over the years, you'd think Al-Qaeda would have faded away.

...Or are they just more "Agents of Goldstein"?...


Link (this is hysterical - looks like a corporate organizational chart): http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/america_under_attack/terror/framesource_al_qaida.html



:puke:

[libodem]

131. I've already heard news blurb saying

that they have gotten valuable information out of him...of course it is a Clearchannel/fox news AM station. Aside from that what freaks me out is that any and all of these captives will be tortured for interrogation purposes. Innocent or not, high level or not, some bum off the street or not. I so hate it that that is what my country has come to stand for.

[Chicago Democrat]

132. Kik