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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:59 AM
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GOP Willing to Repeal Ethics Rule Changes
House Speaker Dennis Hastert, leading a Republican retreat, said Wednesday he stands ready to "step back" on new ethics rules that Democrats charge are designed to shelter embattled GOP leader Tom DeLay.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050427/ap_on_go_co/ethics_committee
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:05 AM
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1. Are they going to repeal DeLay's committee appointments too?
Otherwise, the rule change doesn't mean anything, as long as three of DeLay's retainers constitute the Republican side of the committee.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:23 AM
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2. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
All GOP members of the Ethics Committee have exchanged money with Tom DeLay---Burn, Baby, Burn! The whole damn Party is OVER!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:38 AM
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3. House Speaker ready to scrap ethics rules
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050427/ap_on_go_co/ethics_committee

How many times do you see the words Republican and retreat in the same sentence? Enjoy it!
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:39 AM
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Never believe what the GOP leaders say
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 10:40 AM by pmbryant
Watch what they actually do.

--Peter

EDIT: Meant for this to be a reply to the original post.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:48 AM
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7. Has there ever been a more pathetic and lack of leadership
Speaker of the House?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:39 AM
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4. RETREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:bounce: :bounce:

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:40 AM
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5. backpedal backpedal backpedal
Too funny
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:40 AM
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6. So they're not feeling any pressure...Nope, none at all..Not even a little
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 10:41 AM by Rowdyboy
Yeah, right.... :sarcasm:

The Shiavo/Delay/SSreform stories must really be taking their toll on the Rethugs for them to back down like this. How humiliating.

Hope this story makes it to the greatest page. Its the best news I've heard in awhile.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:48 AM
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8. The repubs don't even have anyone who can sit on an ethics panel
Not for DeLay's case, anyway. There is more scandal waiting for them.

USA Today runs an article today (that isn't news around here) about the 10s of thousands in donations that DeLay's PAC made to EACH ethics committee repub. It's explained as "just normal" but compare it to our own squeaky clean dem...

Donations link DeLay, ethics panel
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There is precedent for ethics panel members recusing themselves when such conflict issues arise. Sen. Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., stepped aside in 2002 in the case of then-senator Robert Torricelli, D-N.J., accused of financial misconduct. Reid had given $500 to Torricelli's legal defense fund. "Recusal is pretty much an individual choice, if there is any possibility of a conflict of interest," said Donald Ritchie, a Senate historian.

Kenneth Gross, an attorney who has represented Democrats and Republicans on ethics issues, said the financial ties on the committee could be a problem. "I would advise the committee not to use a member who had received contributions from DeLay's leadership PAC to head the investigation," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20050427/pl_usatoday/donationslinkdelayethicspanel

Harry recused himself over 500 bucks! DeLay contribute FIFTEEN grand to Hart *alone*.

Who are they gonna get to HEAR the complaints?
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:26 PM
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9. kick to combine
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:26 PM
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10. House GOP yields on ethics rules
(I didn't see this on LBN, if it was I apologize)

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/27/ethics.committee.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Speaker Dennis Hastert, leading a Republican retreat, said Wednesday he stands ready to "step back" on new ethics rules that Democrats charge are designed to shelter embattled GOP leader Tom DeLay.

Hastert said he intends to send a letter to House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi later in the day signaling his willingness to repeal the controversial rules changes.

Later, in a brief Capitol interview, he said he expected the full House to vote on reversing the rules. Asked whether that would take place later in the day, he replied, "I hope so."

Hastert's comments came after a closed-door meeting of the GOP rank and file, the latest in a string of private sessions in which Republicans discussed ways to stem the political damage from an ethics deadlock that has become entwined with DeLay, the controversial majority leader.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:26 PM
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11. I heard this speculation on NPR this morning...alright!
opleaseopleaseoplease.... :applause:
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:26 PM
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12. It is great news....
I wonder how Nancy is going to deal with this.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:26 PM
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13. There are rules to prevent the tyranny of the majority
and this is one of them.

Someday (f*ck you, Diebold and ES&S), the dems will be back in power again. And then the repubs would want the rule changed back. It's a bunch of shit, totally hypocritical. Just like the filibuster business.

Principle needs to trump partisan politics. It seems like that could be happening. (I hope, I hope, I hope)
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:27 PM
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14. What is Hastert so afraid of?
Most Americans don't know DeLay from St. Nicholas. What's to fear?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:27 PM
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15. Why do I think there is some kind of ruse here?
Just can't trust a repuke anymore. There must be a catch, there simply must be. There always is, you know.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:27 PM
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16. I think the catch is
They know they have the votes to over turn anything the Dems do in committee, so DeLay will get off with a slap on the wrist even if they find out that he's a serial killer and robs banks for kicks.

We were better off while the ethics committee couldn't meet, because they had no formal way of replying to the charges. Now they will.
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joldnir Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:46 PM
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19. Not only that....
But since they are in control of the committee, the repukes could then put forth a bunch of Dems for ethics violations. It would not matter if the charges are true or not. The repukes only need to grab the headlines in the news and then claim, "see DeLay is not doing anything worse that the Dems".

How many times has the news ran with a headline and NOT followed up with the findings of an investigation. I have a feeling that once the Dems are cleared; it would be buried on page A22.
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UCLA Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:27 PM
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17. we won. i can't believe we won!! Go Dems!!!!
yea!! I'm so excited!

:applause: :applause:


:woohoo: :woohoo:
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:27 PM
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18. As far as I'm concerned this is only half a win
So long as the 'Puke side of the committee is staffed by scum that owe the Bug Man a solid. Hey, $15K in "campaign donations" buys a couple of "not guilty" votes, I'm sure, especially when the recusal is purely voluntary. I'll celebrate when the Bug Man gets the same treatment that WJC got and worse (since he's even more corrupt).
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