US says Iraq insurgency undiminished in past year

[UpInArms]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26575946.htm

WASHINGTON, April 26 (Reuters) - Iraq's insurgency remains undiminished in its capabilities in the past year despite U.S.-led efforts to crush the rebels, the top American general said on Tuesday.

"I think their capacity stays about the same," Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said of Iraq's insurgents during a Pentagon briefing. "And where they are right now is where they were almost a year ago."

Asked during the briefing "are we winning" the war, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld did not directly respond.

"The United States and the coalition forces, in my personal view, will not be the thing that will defeat the insurgency," Rumsfeld said.

"So, therefore, winning or losing is not the issue for 'we,' in my view, in the traditional, conventional context of using the word 'winning' and 'losing' in a war. The people that are going to defeat that insurgency are going to be the Iraqis."

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Gack! Rummy the Dummy speaks in oodles and boodles of goodles!

But wait! What happened to all that "progress"?

[VegasWolf]

1. We'll just have to stay there until the oil runs out. n/t

[warrens]

2. It was a cakewalk

Who you gonna believe, Rummy or your lying eyes?

[rodeodance]

3. so, have made no progress in a year---we are losing

[Barrett808]

4. Top general says US winning in Iraq, but insurgent capacity undiminished

The top US general said US forces are winning in Iraq but acknowledged that insurgents remain as capable as they were a year ago and success ultimately will depend on political and economic rather than military progress.

General Richard Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, comments came amid an increase in insurgent attacks, some involving multiple car bombings as well as larger, coordinated assaults on military objectives.

"I'm going to say this: I think we are winning, OK? I think we're definitely winning. I think we've been winning for some time," Myers told reporters.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050426/pl_afp/usiraqmilitary

[Elidor]

5. Yeah, we've been winning for two years.

And we'll keep on winning for as many decades as it takes.

What. A. Fucking. Tool.

[oblivious]

9. Yup, we're winning the war on drugs and the one on poverty too. OK?

[htuttle]

6. "I think we are winning, OK?" said the General quite defensively

That's a far cry from 'Mission Accomplished' isn't it?

[Double T]

7. What Would You Expect The General To Say, 'We're Losing The War...

...In Iraq, And By The Way, Can I Please Have Another 87 Billion Dollars."

[hvn_nbr_2]

8. An honest one would say that, but they purged all the honest ones. n/t

[Barrett808]

10. Why not? n/t

[Rose Siding]

11. Oh golly, that's too funny to be so serious

"So, therefore, winning or losing is not the issue for 'we'..."

:rofl:

[bemildred]

12. Analysis:Rumsfeld: Victory is up to Iraqis

Dumbsfeldt is on a roll today.
Soon we will be discussing what the meaning of "is" is.

Washington, DC, Apr. 27 (UPI) -- Is the United States winning in Iraq? Yes, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says.

"I think we're definitely winning. I think we've been winning for some time," said Gen. Richard Myers.

His civilian boss, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, took a more circumspect view of the situation. The outcome of the war is up to the Iraqis.

"Winning or losing is not the issue for 'we,' in my view, in the traditional conventional context of using the word winning and losing and of war," Rumsfeld said Tuesday at a news conference. "The people that are going to defeat that insurgency are going to be the Iraqis."

Moonie Times

[lyonn]

13. So why are we still there?

Heard Rummy also talked to congress about needing $$$$ immediately to support the war. Then just read a post here that Iraq is not paying our contractors. Then the plane alert at the WH, the beat goes on. Rummie & co. are blaming everyone but themselves and twisting facts as usual. I repeat often, what ugly stuff are they going to come up with to get us all scared again and pray to George to save us.

[NYC Liberal]

14. So then shouldn't it have been 'up to the Iraqis' to overthrow Saddam?

This is just another attempt to justify why we're losing in Iraq.

"Well it's not OUR problem! It's THEIR problem!"

If that's true....THEN LET'S LEAVE NOW!

[Jacobin]

15. BWAAAHAHAHAHA. the stupid fucker KNOWS its a lost cause

So now the story will be 'we' didn't lose....the IRAQI'S lost.

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[NYC]

19. That's exactly what it means.

They are responsible for failure. (We couldn't possibly lose, if it were our war, but it's theirs.)

[Frederik]

16. I'm not full of

shit in the conventional meaning of the word shit, in the sense of full as opposed to empty, understood as binary opposite polarities.

[Jacobin]

18. And, to be frank

The losses as a percentile of world GDP tangentially reflected by the increased factor of decreases in attacks is encouraging.

[shadowknows69]

17. Sheeit

I'll bet we'll still be winning 10 years from now USA USA!!! Yeeehaww freedoms on the march!!!