Moussaoui pleads guilty to 9/11 crimes

[MissB]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7573706/

WASHINGTON - Zacarias Moussaoui, the only person charged in the United States in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks, pleaded guilty Friday to conspiring with al-Qaida members and could get the death penalty.

Lawyers for Moussaoui argued earlier in the day that their client is incompetent to plead guilty to crimes that carry a possible death sentence.

The filing came just hours ahead of a hearing before U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema, who earlier in the week met with Moussaoui and determined he was competent to enter such a plea.

In the latest strange twist in a case that has been full of them, Moussaoui’s lawyers filed papers under seal at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Va., titled, “Sealed Suggestion of Defense Counsel as to Defendant’s Incompetence to Plead Guilty and for a Sentence of Death.”

[pissed_American]

1. Can`t wait for the ...

"We got `em!" "I told we we`d get SOMEBODY", bullshit about to come.


Silly martyr.....

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[LatePeriduct]

2. Good now maybe its time to...

Dig up the contract where he signed the deal with Bush, and IMPEACH Bush plus bring on the whole trainwreck to a grinding halt.

No more stolen elections....The albatross takes flight. http://houseofscandal.org

[ConcernedCanuk]

3. The "guilty" one is running the USA & it's genocidal WarMachine . .

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The world knows that . .

What will it take for the American people to realize that . . ? ?

[radar]

4. Geez...

Strange he wouldn't want the trial with publicity & media attention to promote "the cause" as he, Moussaoui, sees it.

[wellst0nev0ter]

5. This Conviction WOULD Be A Feather In BushCo's Cap

IF he was captured AFTER the terrorist attacks :eyes:

[mallard]

7. Re: Moussaoui Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy Re: 9/11 Attacks

Re: Yahoo News - 4/23/05 - National (AP)
Moussaoui Pleads Guilty in 9/11 Conspiracy
by Michael J. Sniffen:

<http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=2&u=/ap/20050423/ap_on_re_us/moussaoui&sid=84439559>

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - With the first U.S. conviction from a Sept. 11 case in hand, federal prosecutors face a new battle over whether Zacarias Moussaoui should receive the death penalty for plotting with al-Qaida against Americans.

"Although he pleaded guilty as expected Friday, Moussaoui told U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema, 'I will fight every inch against the death penalty.' Just last week, he had told her he would plead for execution.

"That was among several surprises as the defendant voluntarily admitted his guilt on six counts of conspiring with al-Qaida leaders and the Sept. 11 hijackers to wreak havoc on Americans. Four counts carry a possible death penalty.

"Moussaoui also declared for the first time in public that Osama bin Laden personally instructed him to fly an airliner into the White House. The target date was not clear.


This comes as upsetting news to those who placed modest credence in the case Moussaoui made for himself early on in his trial. Why would he apparently give up that fight, only to give more support to the administration's case better than ANYONE to date?

I thought he was against those guys.

[Mike Niendorff]

8. re : "This comes as upsetting news" (?!?)

mallard wrote:

> This comes as upsetting news to those who placed modest credence in
> the case Moussaoui made for himself early on in his trial.

Who on earth would give a shred of credence to "the case Moussaoui made for himself"? The evidence against him is overwhelming.

If the FISA warrant to search Moussaoui's laptop -- which was aggressively pursued by the Minneapolis FBI office, but roadblocked by "FBI headquarters" (google on "Dave Frasca") -- if that FISA warrant had been properly obtained, the info on Moussaoui's computer could have led the FBI to the 9/11 hijackers. Google on the name "Colleen Rowley". Then google on "James A. Baker" and "Counsel for Intelligence Policy Review". The story tells itself.

Moussaoui's guilty as hell, as are those who blocked the FISA warrant requests that his arrest rightly engendered.

> Why would he apparently give up that fight, only to give more
> support to the administration's case better than ANYONE to date?

What on earth are you talking about? Moussaoui's involvement has been clear from the beginning, and the blatant roadblocking of the FISA warrant request in his case is a *major* indictment of BushCo's handling of pre-9/11 terrorism warnings. It reeks of malfeasance. The fact that Moussaoui has just admitted to his role in all of this simply underscores the failure of the Bush people to properly follow up on terrorism warnings that might have allowed the attacks of 9/11/01 to be prevented. And DUers have been screaming from the rooftops about this for as long as I can remember.


MDN

[LARED]

9. Wow

You're upset that Moussaoui decided to plead guilty rather than keep
up the farce of a being an innocent victim?????

Because he was against "those guys."

Do you think if Al Gore was President, Moussaoui would have decided to take up a new hobby? Maybe taken some on-line courses in computer repair or something, instead of plotting to kill Americans?

?????????????????

[LatePeriduct]

10. Unbelievable insanity

How the hell is James Baker III, the arch creator of the 9/11 coverup fraud now charing the national election reform commission!?!??

http://www.bradblog.com

This bizarro world needs to end.....for good!!!

[mallard]

11. Maybe you believe the administration's claim...

... that 19 amateur, suicidal maniacs were able to thwart all military security and cause the WTC to implode and make a Boeing disappear into the side of the Pentagon on a 270 degree roll coming into DC from half way across the country. I don't. The case against the official version of events remains, despite this twist. That doesn't mean the truth will ever matter, I'll grant you that.

You jumping on me as being someone supportive of a terorrist monster, and therefore 'unAmerican' is consistent with preaching the official 9/11 line and just how it always gets abused. Sorry, but I had assumed the matter of the truth regarding 9/11 being drowned-out as a more tenable (and therefore unfortunate) reality.

Do you not think there's a little something to the pre-9/11 insider trading and totally pulvarized skyscrapers that might be getting bulldozed over to our collective detrement here?

I'm disappointed because Zacharias Moussaoui was in a unique postion to enlighten the world about what really did go on to make this 9/11 deal come off and change the course of life, liberty and authority forever after in America.

I don't see truth being served by his agreement to accept the charges, as is certainly contrary to the nature of his quoted remarks when they were first filed.

There are also plenty of posters here who are at least willing to look at the events with open minds to the idea that war without justification was thereby made possible to launch - that the war we've gotten into was directly resultant AND totally dependent on the 9/11 tragedy being blamed on Arab Muslims.

A lot more thousands have been killed in the meantime, as you are certainly aware, and the promoters used 9/11 like for what it was - the ticket to invade.

Believe me please, that I don't have any inclination to grant Moussaoui any more credit than hew deserves - especially with this twist. He has caused so much damage to his own people, he can hardly be seen as a hero to any of them.

If he had used his position to enlighten us all, there may have been some hope to resolve the conflict in favor of innocent Arabs and Muslims who have been taking it the hardest. This is not what's happened.

[Laughing Mirror]

12. He plans on appealing all the way up to the Supreme Court

So pleading guilty to this conspiracy charge might be a play for time, a strategy in his defense. Sometimes you plead guilty to anything just to move the case forward. He pleads guilty to conspiracy, but as for the actual events that happened on 9-11, he claims he was not involved. His particular role in the whole affair involved flying a 747 into the White House, not on the actual 9-11 agenda.

He says that the White House attack was to have been used to help spring
shiek Omar Abdel-Rahmane in prison for participating in the first 1993 WTC attack.

[NNN0LHI]

13. Alleged 9/11 Plotter 'Unfit to Plead Guilty' Claim his Lawyers - Moussaoui

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4441812

Lawyers for alleged 9/11 terror massacre conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui today argued that he is incompetent to plead guilty to crimes that carry a possible death sentence.

The filing came just hours ahead of a hearing before United States District Judge Leonie Brinkema, who earlier in the week met Moussaoui and determined he was competent to enter such a plea.

In the latest twist in a case that has been full of them, Moussaoui’s lawyers filed papers under seal at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia, entitled, ”Sealed Suggestion of Defence Counsel as to Defendant’s Incompetence to Plead Guilty and for a Sentence of Death””

Moussaoui’s lawyers declined to comment but previously had said such a filing was planned.

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[Jim Sagle]

14. I think he pled guilty under threat of death by torture.

IOW, the option of pleading not guilty was not available.

[erpowers]

15. Target of the Plot

Does anyone at DU other than myself skeptical about the idea that Moussaoui said that the White House was the target of the 9/11 plot? Can anyone tell me what the no fly zone over the Pentagon was before 9/11?

[mallard]

16. This target story is news, right?

It's not something from sometime in the past three and a half years, is it?

Moussaoui started out his own legal representation on a much different theme - that he was being targetted himself:

Re: Guardian 2/23/02
Drama in court as Moussaoui fires lawyers
by Matthew Engel (Washington):

<http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,688999,00.html>

"The alleged "20th hijacker", Zacarias Moussaoui, electrified a courtroom in suburban Washington yesterday when he took over what was scheduled to be a routine hearing, publicly fired his lawyers and prayed for the destruction of the United States and Israel.

"Mr Moussaoui raised his hand at the start of the hearing and launched into a lengthy diatribe in which he said the US government and the court-appointed attorneys were part of a plan to execute him."

Does anybody else wonder why there is still only the one photo being used to depict Moussauoi in the press and TV media?