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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:27 AM Original message |
Global shortage of oil after 2007 |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. the bushco 'dig and drill' mentality is off base!!--nothing there folks! |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Some believe we are at peak oil already |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Life After the Oil Crash |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 10:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. I'm frightened |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Learn to garden, even if it is just in containers |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. It's pretty hard to live off a garden. |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Learn or starve |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. Thanks! |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You just have to decide that you MUST do this |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
65. don't worry |
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Delphinus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Why? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. I think most humans will not survive the coming meltdown |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
108. During the Depression America survived because of small farms |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. Use planter boxes or small garden areas |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. I know I know |
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MARALE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-05 09:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
129. I don't grow olives |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Make the most of what you have |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
81. Learn how to can, too. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 12:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
97. Free-Range Chickens...eggs from them...great sources of protein.. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 10:21 AM Response to Reply #97 |
107. Mmmm, real eggs are so tasty! |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
117. Yes, gardening,making clothes(byhand)and communal |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Just remember this, and you won't be scared |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Only twenty minutes ago |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. We took it upon ourselves. |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Gregorian |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
90. I'm not on autopilot. |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-05 10:35 AM Response to Reply #32 |
130. Abiotic oil |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. At this point, it really doesn't matter if oil is biotic or abiotic |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. I've been ranting on overpopulation for decades too. |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 01:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
100. Me too. but it's too late for ZPG to do any good at this point... |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 01:51 AM Response to Reply #23 |
99. Amen to that !!! I've lived a childless life because I knew this day would |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
113. Hugely scary, and you are, unfortunately, correct. Overpopulation IS |
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MarkLewis (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Revelation? Hur hur hur... |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. I didn't mean it like that |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
85. MarkLewis...welcome to DU |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
78. I guess this would be a good time to consider a warmer climate |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 01:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
98. You should be frightened. Without enough oil the world economies.. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
121. Don't worry. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #121 |
131. John? John Snow? Is That You? n/t |
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antigone382 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
132. chickens are cheap and easy to raise once you get the hang of it. |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. I saw several Discover, Animal Planet, PBS shows over the last decade |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. "it is going to be very strange soon" |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Oil doesn't come from fossils. |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. the Carboniferous Period |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. oh for the love of Pete |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. The energy companies don't have that much control over the price of oil. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. Boy, you completely misinterpreted Minstrel Boy's post. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 04:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
102. but rotting vegetation does make oil. |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 12:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. They can't hide it any longer. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 12:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
95. Husband just got back from Vietnam - said the "oil" consumption of the |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 02:06 AM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Makes sense to me. It's called "Jevons Paradox" |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 08:31 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. This is why I love the DU! I learn something everyday! Thx! |
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varun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #95 |
106. scooters give very good mileage |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
116. Many credible sources believe @Peak Oil now |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
3. Got ya covered...not to worry |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. There is so much we can do right now |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Tough decisions call for tough leadership |
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NEOBuckeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. Bush & Cheney should be Impeached and forced out of office for this. |
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MarkLewis (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan... and so on... |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. You're absolutely right |
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NEOBuckeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Shortsighted? Not even close, my friend. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
75. It Was. That Is Why Carter Called For Transformation And Sacrifice |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. Y'know |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Try this analogy |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. It stinks. It's all PEAK OIL PEAK OIL PEAK OIL. All the people related to |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Without validity? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. The US sure as hell IS running out of oil |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. The Conspiracy Is The Lack Of Appropriate Action |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I agree in part, but I think it's a different conspiracy. |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. O man. |
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Henny Penny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Anti-gravity technolgy..." |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. google |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 06:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. One example: |
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bin.dare (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. Hutchinson , Podkletnov , Li .... |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. The Hutchinson Effect doesn't really belong in scientific literature, |
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bin.dare (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. surely you mis-spoke ... |
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bin.dare (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
72. "harnessing" and "free" do not go together ... |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 07:47 AM Response to Reply #72 |
104. i have no idea |
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Henny Penny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 04:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. "I suspect preparations are being made... |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:02 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. oil is a means of control |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. Not so much a Conspiracy as it was Stupidly |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Granted There Is No Secret Cabal Running Things |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. what do you think, theres an endless supply of the stuff? |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 04:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
62. No, we're not running out of oil, but |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
124. no peak oil... not running out of oil |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
11. Sorry, kids |
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Robeysays (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 10:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
94. thanks that means a lot to me but im ready i got a huge stock pile... |
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Delphinus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. I'm glad to see |
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femme.democratique (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Is it true that many on DU dismiss Peak Oil? |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I don't know!! |
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lakeguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 12:03 PM Original message |
wow, 2 billion seems high... |
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NEOBuckeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
35. High-Yield Farming can continue without Oil. Go ORGANIC. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 08:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
126. The Primary Result Of Industrial Agriculture Was Reduced Manpower |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
76. What they don't understand is math |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
120. It's because of the Peak Oil People. |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. Got facts? |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-05 04:23 AM Response to Reply #120 |
127. You really haven't got a clue have you? |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-05 07:08 AM Response to Reply #127 |
136. It's not the end of the world, it's just a little change.?? |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
19. The next BIG crunch will be wars over water |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yes indeedie! There is a reason the corporations have been getting us |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. I don't think the corporations will survive the coming crunch. |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. unless they stampede the public into fascism. nt |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 10:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
109. That might be one good thing |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 12:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. hmm. i wonder how much it would cost to have my well re-opened. |
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phusion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
26. I want to find some tribe in South America... |
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varun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. come to small village, India |
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phusion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. That sounds pretty good... |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. Closer to US |
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varun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. My Cuban friend agrees with you |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 06:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Hammer Hits Nail |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
83. do you understand the life expectancy of people in these tribes? |
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phusion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. Who said subsistence farming? |
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LdyGuique (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
30. I've maintained for some time that humans are essentially |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Not humans |
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NewsHound123 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. Oil Shortage Has Already Hit West Coast ! |
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brokensymmetry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
49. Peak is now. |
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Matthias (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
80. Not yet |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:12 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. The problem is that the supply and demand curves are about to cross. |
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d_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
55. I can hardly wait! |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
67. Sorry folks, but for some reason this Peak Oil stuff seems like the... |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Like how the economy is "wobbling" under oil prices? |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #67 |
128. The "elsewhere" |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
73. The PNAC forsaw all this - WAR WAS THEIR SOLUTION |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
79. why is the global response to this looming crisis |
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Geo55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. None of them have a clue.... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 04:49 AM Response to Reply #79 |
103. I don't have a source at hand, but Eu officials |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
96. Don't know what to think but bankruptcy bill could be a nice cushion |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
110. Hmmm. Let's see. Let me offer this scenario. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. OK sure that is a possibility |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. And I would probably be right behind you in the line to place my bet... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. bus off cliff seguay |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. You may very well have read this before, but this is what makes sense... |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
114. Just in time for Armageddon! Outta gas, outta time. eom |
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WLKjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
122. Say it with me everyone |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
125. PEAK OIL LECTURE!! Please read |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #125 |
134. Read the whole thing |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-05 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
133. My Plan for after the Oil Crash |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-05 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
137. review |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Bush to the rescue.. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-05 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
139. Okay now can we dump this filthy gooey shit |
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