Body found near missing Florida girl's home

[AlCzervik]

Authorities do not yet know if the body is Sarah Lunde

Age: 13, born August 30
Ht., Wt.: 5 feet 3; 176 lbs.
Description: White; brown hair below shoulders usually worn in ponytail; hazel eyes, last seen in white T-shirt, orange and blue basketball shorts; green cast on left wrist



RUSKIN, Florida (CNN) -- Searchers in Florida looking for missing 13-year-old Sarah Michelle Lunde have found a body, Hillsborough County Sheriff David Gee said Saturday.

Authorities still do not know if the body is Sarah, Gee said.

The body was found half-submerged in a pond at an abandoned fish farm about half a mile from the Lunde family's home, the sheriff said.

"We need now to make a positive identification," Gee said. "Certainly I don't think there's that much coincidence that we would have something that close . But I cannot not say yet with any degree of certainty at this point."

Gee said the body was found by a search-and-rescue dog.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/16/florida.girl/index.html

[Maine-ah]

1. u might want to change your title since they don't know if this is her or

not. just a suggestion...

[Up2Late]

5. In LBN you are required to use the actual headline

Which the CNN Buzzards wrote as "Body found near missing Florida girl's home"

You can put extra words (in parentheses) for clarity, but that's about it.

I just have one question, When did this type of story become "National News?":shrug: And NO, I don't think it's because she's "White," I think it's just another CNN/MSM attempt to distract us from the REAL scandals going on in Washington D.C.:mad:

[AlCzervik]

6. I think it's nationial news because it happened in Florida again

it's like open season on young girls there. About a year ago in Sacramento it was open season on infants and toddlers but it got no nationial coverage, i'm not sure why exactly but there were about 6 deaths in a 3 month period due to abuse, one was a set of 6 month old twins beaten to death by their meth addict mother.

[Maine-ah]

9. the original title was missing girls body found, which is why i suggested

the change, and the op did change the title, as you can see the op's post was edited.

[Up2Late]

12. Have you clicked the link that was posted? Here are th first 3 lines

from that link, that could have been the "Original" but it's not at this link. Those are the rules here.

<http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/16/florida.girl/index.html>

Body found near missing Florida girl's home

Authorities do not yet know if the body is Sarah Lunde

Saturday, April 16, 2005 Posted: 1:35 PM EDT (1735 GMT)

[Maine-ah]

13. u r completely missing the point and I am not going to argue with

someone over a stupid title. re-read my second post.

[Up2Late]

15. Oh, O.K., I see now...

...but, here's a suggestion for you.

If you want to keep from pissing people off and getting a bunch of angry replies, try Using Punctuation! The comma is important for clear understanding of what is written. :rant: And some Capital Letters would be nice too.

I'm not the greatest at punctuation either, but difference between your sentence with and without a comma, is HUGE! Maybe not to you, but to people who don't have time to read, and then re-read your posts, to try to figure out what you meant, it is a big deal. See below:

What you wrote:

the original title was missing girls body found, which is why i suggested

Better:
The original title was, missing girls body found, which is why I suggested...

or better still

The original title was, "Missing girls body found", which is why I suggested...
(the second comma might be off by one space, but it's still a lot more clear than what you wrote)

Also, the Smilies :hi: help to convey the meaning of a post too.

[DS1]

20. no f*cking way!

The original title was, missing girls body found, which is why I suggested is comma abuse.

People don't pause like that, it's not natural. Furthermore, you left an apostrophe out.

[Up2Late]

26. Maybe my suggestion below that, would, in this instance, make more...,

...,that is to say, Uh, sense?:silly::eyes: (see, I have no clue if you are kidding or not, a smiley would have helped)

"The original title was, "Missing girls body found", which is why I suggested...,"

But, like I said, I'm was never an "A" student in English class, so maybe you can help me with a few "Punctuation situations."

Is this right: ...original title was, "Missing girls body found", which...

Or this: ...original title was, "Missing girls body found," which...?

And, when trying to say, "it makes more sense," is that the proper form of the word sense, or is it since?

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

2. This is just so sad

As a mother, this is the nightmare that will keep you up at night and the scenarios that fly through your head when your kids are late getting home.

[AlCzervik]

3. i too have a child, a daughter and these stories

are the stuff of true nightmares, that poor little girl, i can't stop thinking about what her last moments were like.

[LibDemAlways]

8. My 12 year old can't understand why I

won't let her roam the mall by herself, and why I'm always on time to pick her up and insist that she be with an adult while out in public. It's a very different world than the one I grew up in. When I was her age, I'd take off on my bike for the day. My parents had no clue where I was, and they didn't worry. My daughter won't know that kind of freedom until she approaches adulthood. What a shame.

[MuseRider]

10. My boys lived through it

but I was a bit overprotective but because of just these situations I could not let them out of my sight until they were older. They knew why and they understood. They did not like it but they understood. Hang in there, she is coming home with you and that is a good thing.

[nonconformist]

4. Oh no!

:(

[Cocoa]

7. yes it's very sad, but...

we should also keep in mind our emotions are being manipulated by the focus the media, especially TV, puts on these stories.

I wonder why we're not sad about the murdered children they're not focusing on but who are murdered just the same?

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

11. Not to defend the media but,

they can't focus on all the murdered children, unfortunately there are too many. To suggest that we aren't sad about the others is crazy.

I hadn't seen the stories about this unfortuante girl. Any murdered child is a sad reminder to parents that it could happen to their child just as easily.

Of course the media manipulates the country with these stories. But, it doesn't make it any less disturbing.

[Up2Late]

14. O.K. granted, but why THIS girl? Why DIDN'T we here about theses?

Why didn't we here about all of these recent stories below? CNN, FOX, MSNBC are all just hunting for another story to exploit, now that Coby and Lacy Peterson are over, and Schivo's dead.

This kind of story never made National 10 years ago, until we had 10+ children dead.

These are LOCAL stories! The "National News" should be covering National News! :banghead: The Local News can handle these stories just fine.

<http://www.justicejunction.com/unidentified_people_toddler.htm>
Unidentified Body of Beheaded Toddler Found

<http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/27/national/main683329.shtml>
Snatched Iowa Girl Found Dead
IOWA CITY, Iowa, March 27, 2005

<http://www.kpax.com/Global/story.asp?S=3194834>
Girl found dead in burnt home

<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4146010/>
Defense seeks gag order in slaying of Fla. girl
‘Unprecedented ... coverage’ cited in bid for lid on public comments

<http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050225/NEWS01/502250342/0/special>
Missing girl found dead; family acquaintance charged with murder
Police say info from suspect led them to body in Clinton Co.

Or here's one from my old home town.
<http://www.wndu.com/news/012005/news_39975.php>
Ten-year-old Crothersville girl found dead

<http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2005/01/28/rhodes28.htm>
First-grader found dead-
Police arrest father

<http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/yahoo/chi-0503260127mar26,1,1968115.story?coll=chi-newsaol-headlines&ctrack=2&cset=true>
2-month-old girl found dead in bag near Edens
Round Lake Beach baby died of asphyxia

<http://www.klaaskids.org/search_oak_harbor.htm>
Saturday, January 15, 2005
Missing Oak Harbor girl found dead
18-year-old's statements lead police to body in compost

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

19. Trust me

If I knew why some are chosen and some are not, I would have had my best friends disappearance (in 1996) nationwide. They had another woman in CA who was getting all the attention back then. I wondered why back then and it's still a mystery.

[SemperEadem]

30. one component of whether a story get more airtime than others

is how cooperative the families of the victim(s) are with the media. If you won't let the media exploit your pain, they pretty much either ignore you or 'try' your innocence themselves through speculating what your feelings are.

[magnussun]

22. Media

The reason the national media covers these stories is because of the recent explosion of all news stations.
They do tend to pick out sensational ones, to the exclusion of others.
On hate crimes, they focus on white against black mostly, when hate crimes are not limited to one race against another.
On issues of missing children, I must say I've seen very few bigtime stories on minority children. On issues of domestic violence, the women are usually beautiful and popular.
These media outlets are into sales, not news.

M

[montana_hazeleyes]

16. I feel horrible

about every dead child, especially murdered children.

But I also see how the shooting deaths of children, teens, and young adults that occur on a continuing basis in inner cities are completely ignored by the media.

[Up2Late]

28. Exactly my point. n/t

[HR_Pufnstuf]

17. what about the missing cabbie body found in GA?

http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=59533

..or the shooting victim in san diego?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20050416-9999-1m16ccrime.html

why does this "body found" make the news when there are bodies found everyday? what news are they trying to cover up? or does the corp news magnify non-stories for ratings? or both.

Search Gooogle News for "body found"
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=%22body+found%22&btnG=Search+News

[Up2Late]

27. Did you see this at the bottom of the Google page?

"New! Get the latest news on body-found with Google Alerts."

That would be kind of "sick" to sign up for.

And as for the missing Cabbie, here's you're answer,

"...Jose Roberto Gomez-Javier, 37, of Tucker...employed by El Mexicano Taxi service in Gwinnett....

...Sheriff's Capt. Jeff Strickland said investigators are awaiting autopsy results for the cause of death 'but foul play is suspected.'" :eyes: Gee, ya think?

Gwinnett County is part of the Atlanta Metro (about 15 miles from where I live), and their are a LOT of pissed-off, "white" racists in Gwinnett County. Gwinnett has had a lot of Hispanic Construction workers re-locate there, because most of them are following the work.

[Catchawave]

18. Update: Press Conference at 6pm (eastern)

on Fox anyhow. I know the other news channels have their weekend entertainment stories on now.

[magnussun]

21. Sex offenders

As an independent who has previously been on conservative sites, I am curious as to the liberal solution for sex offenders. I have a serious problem with them, as I am sure you do too.

Do you feel they can be rehabilitated? I do not. I think they should be locked up forever.

M

[Up2Late]

24. I ask my brother, who is a Mental Health Social Worker, and...

...a person who is finally beginning to get his own Mental Illness under control, the same Question.

He said that most of these people that turn out to be serial Killers, or Serial Rapist or Serial Child Molesters, etc., are not "Mentally Ill", as they tend to get labeled, but ARE actual Psychopaths.

He told me that currently, Psychopaths are NOT treatable, with current medications. They basically have to lock them up, like Charles Manson, or the Hillside Strangler, etc.

I don't support the Death penalty (as a Buddhist) and I think that's one of the subjects that can only be talked about in specific groups and forums (or else the thread will be locked), so I won't go into that here.

[magnussun]

29. Psychopaths

"He said that most of these people that turn out to be serial Killers, or Serial Rapist or Serial Child Molesters, etc., are not "Mentally Ill", as they tend to get labeled, but ARE actual Psychopaths."

I thought psychopaths were considered mentally ill? I saw a really scary program about them, and one was interviewed. He said people like him are literally incapable of feeling love or hate. He discussed him crimes as if he were giving directions. How do we know
who is a psychopath? The program said 2% of the population are.

"He told me that currently, Psychopaths are NOT treatable, with current medications. They basically have to lock them up, like Charles Manson, or the Hillside Strangler, etc."

So it would be safe to assume that a child molester is a psychopath and should never see the light of day? I do believe that, having been a target of one myself when a pre-teen. Perhaps I am biased?

My mother had a real bad experience with a psychopath when she was 17. She got off the bus and a block from her house, she was attacked. She fought him off and ran to the neighbor's. The man went home and bludgeoned his mother and invalid sister to death with a rock and baseball bat. While awaiting trial, he managed to strangle a vagrant in the cell next to his. Scary, scary guy. He got the death penalty, but it was later overturned when California changed the law. I must say that I generally oppose the DP, but in his case, deep down, I regret he didn't get the chair.

M

[Up2Late]

32. Yes, everything you said was correct, my main point is...

...a Psychopath is different from someone with a "Treatable" Mental Illness, such as Schizophrenia, Manic/Depression (Bi-Polar), Depression, PTSD, etc. One of the biggest problem the Mentally Ill face is the stigma created by Hollywood movies, like Psycho, which turned into everyone referring to ALL Mentally Ill people as Psychos. Most can be helped, the true Psychopath can't be.:pals:

[LostinVA]

33. Most professionals use "sociopaths" n/t

[Chalco]

34. Psychopaths are not mentally ill. They know what they are doing

and do it for a reason. They are in touch with reality and dont have anxiety disorders, are not psychotic, etc. They have no guilt. They are different from sociopaths whose primary personality feature is manipulation, and have no guilt. Of course, a person can be both. Sociopathic with psychopathic tendencies, for example. Psychopaths are considered to be untreatable, therefore, the best thing is often to incarcerate them. They derive joy from hurting people. Sociopaths derive joy from manipulating people indo doing something. They like the thrill of having power over someone.

[magnussun]

35. Psychopaths should be considered mentally ill

No having a conscience, or feelings like the rest of us is definitely
what I would consider mentally disabled.

M

[Chalco]

36. You might be right but by current definition since they

know what they are doing they are not considered mentally ill. Also, since we have no means of curing them they are locked up to keep the public safe.

[CountAllVotes]

23. truth: murder or suicide or what?

<<< Sarah has spent time in the state's foster care system, and, when she was 9, authorities ordered her hospitalized to ensure she did not hurt herself, law enforcement authorities said.
>>>

I hope she didn't kill herself! Sounds like she had a real fun life after reading that story.

May this poor young woman RIP!

[LisaL]

31. Hope she didn't kill herself? Why? Is it better that she was

killed by someone else?
:eyes:
Anyhow, I don't think there is any question that this was a murder and not suicide. They even got a "person of interest"-her mother's sex-offender boyfriend.

[libertad]

37. A sex-offender confessed to the murder several days ago.

He had formerly dated the mother. He was a convicted rapist who says he got in an argument with the child and strangled her.

[AlCzervik]

25. It was just confirmed by the sheriff that is was her

the id came from the cast on her arm.