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distressedsister Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:53 PM
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Bush on Death Penalty and the Culture of Life Today
In response to a press question pointing out the fact the the United States is out of step with most of the world on the death penalty and referring to his calls for a "culture of life" during the Terri Schiavo congressional action, Bush replied "I am comfortable with my belief that there's no contradiction between the two." and said that the difference is the "difference between guilt and innocence".

These comments are quoted from the press conference following his speech to the American Society of Newspaper Editors (which is still ongoing at 1:51PM EDT).
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:56 PM
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1. Hmmmph.
Well, I guess he WOULD know a thing or two about guilt.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:56 PM
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2. Talk About Signing Your Own Death Warrant!
Give the man enough rope, please!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:56 PM
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3. The difference is:
IN one case they are killing live people and in the other they were trying to keep a live, a brain dead person.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:56 PM
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4. So, ALL GUILTY PEOPLE DIE...Including those who can't pay health insurance
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 12:57 PM by xultar
so the Hospital can pull da plug.

EXECUTE THE YOUNG CHILDREN who commit crimes.

HOWEVER THERE ARE PENALTIES for the CORPORATIONS WHOSE PRODUCTS KILL.

:crazy:



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modrepub Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:04 PM
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5. Eric Rudolph
Am I the only one who noticed the hypocrisy of giving Rudolph a life sentence??? This guy killed a police officer, terrorized a city and advocates killing abortion providers. If this guy isn't deserving of the death penalty, who is? What did we get in exchange for his "lighter" sentence and was he given life because he's views are similar to the radical right? Where's the outrage.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:08 PM
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6. Because its *'s base
And according to the DHS, he's not a terrorist



http://www.kliljedahl.net

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:37 PM
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8. I have no outrage about Rudolph's sentence. Not as long as he
never gets out of prison. This can't be allowed to become his opportunity to write "Mein Kampf", but killing him accomplishes nothing and prevents him from, remote as it may be, having a change of heart and informing of the fascistic forces that supported him while he was hiding out. What are his connections with Christian Identity and the militia movement? When he was picked up he was clean-shaven and had short hair -- who was his barber? There's no way he would not have been recognized if he dropped in at the local mall for a haircut. There was a support network there that needs to be exposed.

Timothy McVeigh might have had a lot to tell us about the deeper movement behind the OK City bombing, but now he won't be telling us anything.

CSI notwithstanding, the information you can get from a corpse is very limited.
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modrepub Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:48 PM
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9. I generally agree
but the cynic in me says nobody in Justice is looking for people who helped him and he will shed very little light on the "Christians" who think like him.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:54 PM
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10. True enough, but maybe he will change his mind when he
discovers that the federal penitentiary system is not the 'three squares and free TV all day' thing that so many on the right would have us believe it is. After he's been raped a couple times he may be begging for a chance to talk, if he can get the protection of a private cell or something.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:57 PM
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11. A guy like rudolph won't have a problem with getting raped
in prison. He will probably adapt to it nicely like richard speck did.
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:29 PM
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7. guilt and innocence???
and of course we NEVER make a mistake and execute an innocent person. It's NEVER HAPPENED.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:17 PM
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12. and that's why he
cut his time to review each death penalty case in Texas to less than 15 minutes because he trusted the courts to thoroughly review matters of life and death. Funny how he didn't trust the courts to do the same in the Schiavo case. "Neither drunk attorneys, nor sleeping attorneys, nor IQ's below 70 will keep me from signing this death warrant."
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:36 PM
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14. And what were the hundreds of Iraqi children guilty of, Mr. Dimwit?
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:35 PM
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13. The culture of liE
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 02:40 PM by cprise
It's a wonderful liE.

LiE's too short.

The meaning of liE...


Why does the Culture Of LiE imply:

*** War
*** Execution
*** Extinction
*** Pollution

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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 04:23 PM
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15. Major cognitive dissonance.
From original post: Bush said that the difference is the "difference between guilt and innocence".

What about those who were wrongly convicted and set free when DNA proved they were 'not guilty'? Those cases strongly suggest that some 'innocents' in the past have been put to death on the basis of wrongful conviction.
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