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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:27 PM
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"The coward Bush talks about the "culture of life" ....
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 10:44 PM by GarySeven
Statement released today from Eric Rudolph, mass murderer, who thinks Conservatives aren't conservative enough:

"There are those who would say to me that the system in Washington works. They say that pro-life forces are making progress, that eventually Roe v. Wade will be overturned, that the culture of life will ultimately win over the majority of Americans and that the horror of abortion will be outlawed. Yet, in the meantime thousands die everyday. They say that the mechanism through which this will be achieved is the Republican party, and under the benevolent leadership of men like George W. Bush the wholesale slaughter of children will be a thing of the past. But with every day that passes another pile of corpses is added to the pyre. George W. will appoint the necessary justices to the Supreme Court and Roe will be finished, they say. All of this will be achieved through the lawful, legitimate democratic process. And every year a million and a half more die. I ask these peaceful Christian law-abiding Pro-Life citizens, is there any point at which all of the legal remedies will not suffice and you would fight to end the massacre of children? How many decades have to pass, how many millions have to die? Is there any point when the cries of children will not go unanswered? I think that your inaction after three decades of slaughter is a sufficient answer to all of these questions."

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/noads/0405/13ertext.html
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:30 PM
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1. It's too much.
I'm going to find a rock to hide under for a while...
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:32 PM
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2. That whackjob is in prison. (nt)
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:43 AM
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36. and millions more like him
are part of a group now known as the chimpenator's base.
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BornLeft Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:05 AM
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37. Yes but we should
refer to them as "Fundamentalist Terrorists" or "Right Wing Christian Terrorists"
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:33 PM
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3. Eric, how about the newborns to 3 year olds?
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 11:05 PM by LiviaOlivia
They don't have adequate health care or nutrition because a slim marjority of our society doesn't want to spend the money. How about the Repukes that don't care about the 'born or living'?

http://www.cdc.gov/omh/AMH/factsheets/infant.htm
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Snap Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:48 PM
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11. Mostly I just blow these guys off,
but it is astounding to be able to create and maintain this narrow focus and obsession with fertilized eggs. I know this sounds a little whirly, but I can relate to people that look at all living things on the planet and say they are precious and unique, and we must tread lightly, etc.etc. But to select one thing, or two (foetuses and the danger of homosexuality for example) to put your entire facination into seems crazy to me.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:33 PM
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4. Reminds me of this
http://mediamatters.org/items/200504050001

Read the middle section and Dobson will promote the killing of that teenager who was with the DC Sniper. Pro-life? Culture of life? Let's kill teenagers later rather than as a handful of cells.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:47 PM
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10. Here's something you might like


Tuesday, April 12, 2005

From David Horsey Seattle Post-Intelligencer
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:53 AM
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:36 PM
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5. Rudolph and Bush just love to kill to save killings
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 10:37 PM by Erika
As Falwell said "We will continue to kill all those who kill so the killings will stop". Nutsos.

We've killed well over 100,000 innocent Iraqis. We killed 12 yesterday in one of our bombings, including old men, women, and children www.icasualties.org
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:39 PM
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6. Dear Eric:
Bad News. Setting off bombs that kill innocent folks has disqualified you from using phrases like "Culture of Life", "Peace", "Cries of Children" and just the whole sanctimoneous tone of your letter. You lose. You are not worth being taken seriously until you are again free, which, I am afraid, is going to be never.

Enjoy your stay with your new roommate, the guy they call "Firehose". Note: He never took a firefighter course in his life.

Sincerely,

T. Scheisskopf

PS: While you have the time, do read something about the concept of karma.
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:23 AM
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38. Nice response.
My money is on Firehose!
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:08 AM
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41. unfortunately
eric will have the protection of "aryan nation", fellow-travelers all, in the joint. BUT, he's out of touch w/energetic chemicals & other toys. the morbid death-culture of the RW xians have their posterchild martyr, but they'll have to locate new mechanics.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:41 PM
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7. Gee, why don't they get him a talk show too?
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 10:52 PM by Solly Mack
I know,an entire Newsweek dedicated to the thinking of Eric Rudoplh.



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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:44 PM
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8. Conveniently forgot to mention 100,000 dead Iraqi citizens
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nine30 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:44 PM
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9. If Eric were aborted...
..at least one REAL human being would still be alive today...

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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:51 PM
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12. More thoughts from a deranged mind ...
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 10:53 PM by GarySeven
"And now after the agreement has been signed the talking heads on the news opine that I am "finished," that I will "languish broken and unloved in the bowels of some supermax," and but I say to you people that by the by the grace of God I am still here — a little bloodied, but emphatically unbowed."

This fucker wants a martyr's status; he seriously expects to inspire other "armies of one" and, thanks to certain United States senators (who are sworn to uphold the Constitution,) these mini-Erics now have their target: federal judges.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:53 PM
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13. better link
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:02 PM
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17. how is that a better link?
The other gives the full statement; yours gives excerpts.

Then again, Eric's little mind may be best captured by little snippets.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:05 PM
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21. the first one needed registration...
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 11:07 PM by sonicx
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:06 PM
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22. Oh .. sorry about the registration thing.
I sometimes forget.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:57 PM
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14. I wish I could figure out how to put the counter here, but these are...
the Iraqi deaths that have been "reported" by the media, unfortunately, because Iraq is still a war zone, theirs not much reporting going on anymore.

<http://www.iraqbodycount.net/>

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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:59 PM
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15. MSM continues giving voice to murderers Next: Congressmen threaten judges?
Remember Matt Shepard's killers were also given a voice by MSM. Any question about the "goodness" of any of this?
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:05 PM
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20. We need to know what our enemies are thinking.
This man's thoughts presented in this statement represent the true face of Conservativism. They are unpleasant to face, but only by facing them can we truly recognize the magnitude of the danger this republic faces. These people are committed to a shooting war and we will not deflect their aims by looking the other way.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:02 PM
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16. Why is this man not referred to as the terrorist he is?
He meets every definition of the word "terrorist" ... both the classic "Webster" version and virtually any contemporary version.

He meets the description of a modern terrorist to a "T" ... a fundamental religious man bent on overthrowing something by brute force.

Oh I know ... he's light skinned and kinda good looking ... normal ... middle American ... corn-fed/white bread kinda guy.

Now he's even called for the head of Great Leader Chimpus Khan.

C'mon, mediawhores ... call him what he is ........ a fucking terrorist. You can say it, can't you?

Try this ..... TER ... okay?

Now .... OR ...... very good!

Finish with ... IST


Say it with me now .... TER OR IST

Terrorist

TERRORIST

AMERICAN CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST TERRORIST

That, dear mediawhores, is what he is.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:57 AM
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35. no, I think the word terrorist is overused
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:12 AM
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42. miss used,
you must have meant. applying it to iraqi resistance fighters is misuse; eric rudolph IS a RW fundy xian terrorist.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:03 PM
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18. Mr. Rudolph would probably make it through a confirmation hearing ...
... as just another Bush* appointee. He's a natural for "Faith-Based Initiatives." :puke:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:03 PM
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19. and there it is...the truth of the matter
Well said!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:12 PM
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23. Or the federal civil rights commission
He may be the new rising star of the Bush theocracy.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:57 PM
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26. Absolutely right
I wonder who caused more deaths, Rudolph, or Negroponte? The difference between a member of the Bush administration and a home-grown terrorist is simply one of connections. Apparently, Rudolph doesn't know the right people, and didn't serve in Poppy's or Ronnie's administration.

Those connections are what give you the license to kill, and an automatic get-out-of-jail card. Most corrupt government ever.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:14 PM
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24. Why do none of these freaks worry about the kids who are already here?
What about their lives? What about grown-ups lives. Why when you grow up are you no longer worthy of living? What about American soldiers lives, or Iraqi lives, or innocent death row inmate's lives? What about all the people who die because the don't go to the doctor because they have no health insurance? Or, the people in Africa who die from AIDS and starvation everyday? A lot of those people are children who have yet had the chance to violate any "religious principle" that would supposedly earn them the Fundamentalist's death sentence of AIDS. And, what about all the women in the Middle East and elsewhere who are killed for the honor of the family, because they may have looked at a man the wrong way, or he at them, or because they have been raped?

This guy is a murderer and he has the balls to talk about life - just like George W. Bush. The only difference, this guy did his killing himself. Bush gets other people to do it for him. Culture of life, my ass.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:37 PM
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25. Fucking nut case is a murderer expounding on a "culture of life"
Has the asshole been to see Karl Rove???
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:02 AM
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27. China has the greatest number and highest percentage of abortions.
Why didn't Rudolph take his self-righteous act over there? Or how about Israel? He can go there. They have legal abortions, and it's easier to obtain than in the U.S. In fact, considering our aid to Israel, you might say we're helping to supplement those abortions because we provide dollars to Israel

We all know that if Rudolph had committed the same acts of terrorism in China, he'd be maggot food now. And if he had tried this in Israel, well, God help him.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:07 AM
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28. How would he get in.
Besides.

He doesn't have a constituency for his politics there. Here, he presents himself as a champion of the culture of life, believing the same things as DeLay and Santorum, except he is willing to actually do something about it rather than let little things like the constitution and the rule of law stop him.

By their politics and beliefs, he should indeed be their hero. That's just hard to take, sorry.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:16 AM
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29. Well, if God *cough* is on his side, he'll get in.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 12:17 AM by Straight Shooter
But you got my point. Rudolph has his audience here, he can play to the captive fundie crowd, be their hero and martyr. If he really believed in his principles, he would be working quietly to save the lives of children by addressing malnutrition, incest, disease, abuse and neglect. With respect to his true priorities and his real agenda, I believe that what he doesn't do speaks volumes louder than the actions he actually takes.

edit, clarity
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:17 AM
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30. What can you expect from inbreds
like Rudolph. It's too bad the morning after pill wasn't available for Rudolph's mother.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:20 AM
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31. Screw this guy and the horse he rode in on.
:rant:I'm not the least bit intimidated by this crap. In fact, any movement that attacks distraught women at abortion clinics; places bombs and runs off; and has hero's who run like a scared rabbits in the woods rather than accept responsibility proudly for his work REALLY SUCKS THE BIG ONE. These people are cowards. They run and hide. They have false leaders. Look at DeLay, what a crook. Look at Frist, a re-animated Night of the Living Dead extra. Look at OxyRush and Luffa O'Liely.

Don't you get it, these people are all on the run. They run from the truth, they run from their fellow citizens, they run from reality.

I hope this clown goes directly to jail, does not pass GO, and does not collect $200. I also hope he has the nastiest room mate ever in a federal penitentiary.

FUCK THEM ALL. LET THEM LIVE IN JAIL WHEN THEY'RE CAUGHT.
LET THEM LIVE IN POVERTY AND IGNORANCE.:rant:
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:21 AM
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32. They say this while the children in America are...
going to bed hungry at night and have no healthcare! Using this guy to get their message across! Hypocrites!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:54 AM
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34. "on circumstantial evidence" Scary to think he just might have gotten off

I know this would have been a long shot....but....

....After much thought and consideration, I entered into an agreement with the government. After potentially facing 4 trials in 4 separate jurisdictions on circumstantial evidence that would likely lead to a conviction in at least one of these jurisdictions, I have deprived the government of its goal of sentencing me to death......
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:21 AM
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43. Most evidence is circumstantial
He might have gotten off of one of the charges, but not on all of them.

If an ATM camera, for instance, places him at the scene, his car got a parking ticket a block away, an eyewitness saw him enter the building, and they found his fingerprints on the bomb's timers, ALL of that would be "circumstantial."

Oh, and did I mention what a freakin' psycho this guy is? Thank God they're going to lock him up and throw away the key.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:26 AM
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39. This regime will go down in history for being LIARS and abusing
PR and spin to the worst advantage ever. Worse than the cigarette companies or other unhealthy advertising.
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:01 AM
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40. oh, yes
and the horrors of abortion prompted him to bomb a lesbian cafe and indescrimately kill a middle-aged black woman @ the olympics?

unfort, he is NOT characterized as a "terrorist" by the media. 'cause he's white & xian.

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