Report: New York City teens held after FBI says they planned suicide bombi

[Judi Lynn]

Report: New York City teens held after FBI says they planned suicide bombing


Posted: 04/07/2005 07:00:32

NEW YORK (AP) -- Two 16-year-old girls from New York City have been arrested on immigration charges after federal authorities said they planned to become suicide bombers, according to a published report.

The teenagers were arrested March 24 and were being held in a detention center in Leesport, Pa., The New York Times reported Thursday, citing a government document provided by a federal agent.

According to the document, the FBI found that the girls posed "an imminent threat to the security of the United States based upon evidence that they plan to be suicide bombers," the Times said.

The evidence was not described in the document.

Manny Van Pelt, a spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, a division of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, would confirm only that two juveniles had been arrested on "administrative immigration violations" and remained in custody.
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http://www.abc15.com/news/morenews/index.asp?did=17648

[Cooley Hurd]

1. The last sentence (from the article)

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The case seemed to be "an investigation that's gotten out of hand, like a lot of other so-called terror investigations," Carroll told the newspaper.
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Sounds like the same govt officials that entraped the Imam from Albany, NY...:mad:

[inflection]

6. if it could even POSSIBLY be a threat to innocent americans...

then as far as i'm concerned LET THE GOVT INVESTIGATE... seriously, who cares?? if it threatens us, then it's worth looking in to... even if we only THINK that it MIGHT POSSIBLY threaten us...

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. Then it won't be much longer

until everyone including other Americans are considered suspicious. Where do you draw the line? Only brown people are suspicious? Only people between certain ages?

People can't live their lives in a constant state of fear. After awhile you realize it's just not worth it. Besides we're all going to die of something someday.

[inflection]

8. uh, no.. people who write essays about suicide and islam are SUSPICIOUS!

on edit:

"Federal immigration agents investigated her home and discovered an essay about suicide and Islam on her computer, Carroll said."

that's from the cnn.com

[Judi Lynn]

11. Since when is writing an essay an automatic invitation to arrest?

What's missing here? Is everything supposed to go your way just because you claim you might need your interests protected, even if it means acting like a wild beast to make you feel safe?

We STILL have a few laws left, for the moment.

[inflection]

15. i'd still want it investigated for the sake of myself, my family and you.

illegal immigrants who show *interest* in suicide bombing and the religion of islam is, to me at least, a suspicious situation.

as far as i'm concerned even if these girls are completely innocent it is wroth investigating..

oooh wait, maybe we should just wait until a couple suicide bombers successfully attack a strip mall and kill dozens of innocent citizens, then would you consider investigations like this necessary?

[Judi Lynn]

17. Did you read any of the information?

Both a senior New York law enforcement officer and a federal official believe this is something truly skewed, and out of line.

More from the New York Times article:

According to Mr. Carroll, the parents of the Bangladeshi girl, who live in Queens Village, went to the local police station house several weeks ago, seeking a complaint against their teenage daughter, who had defied their authority. The family dispute was soon resolved, and they then tried to withdraw the complaint, which they believe set off the investigation.

Police detectives, and then federal immigration agents, searched her belongings and confiscated her computer and the essays that she had written as part of a home schooling program, according to the family. One essay concerned suicide. The family maintained that the essay asserted that suicide is against Islamic law, but it led investigators to question her sharply about her political beliefs.

Detectives from the precinct went to the girl's home to question her about two weeks before her arrest, Mr. Carroll said, asking about her absence from a public high school since September. The mother said her daughter would be schooled at home and was seeking a high school equivalency degree because of conflicts between her Islamic dress code - a full veil - and the school's dress code.

According to the family, the detectives, who had no warrant, searched the house and the teenager's belongings. The next day, the mother received a phone call from one of the detectives, a woman, saying that her daughter had extremist beliefs and promoted concepts like suicide bombing. Both mother and daughter denied the allegation, saying that she was against such ideas.
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If a Christian wrote an essay discussing suicide, regarding his/her religion, indicating that the church strongly forbids the act (in theory, of course, as it can't physically be prohibited) would a drooling idiot be correct in jumping to the conclusion that since the Christian faith and suicide are both mentioned in the article the person might just go on a violent rampage against non-believers?

You will not be able to force your government to protect you from everything. You will discover you are going to have those long, lonely nights when you cannot sleep, sick with fear, anguish, and desperation, just like everyone ELSE in this world who knows death is bearing down upon him/her, and there's not a thing you can actually do about it, as well as not a thing you can do to keep the same thing from happening to everyone you know. Just demanding you are served first won't get you anywhere.

Some people are simply too childish, selfish, and undeveloped inwardly for words. They are the loud, pushy ones.

[Judi Lynn]

9. DIE, you say? Even us "innocent Americans?"

I had assumed we are all going to be lifted up to heaven because of our great purity, our whiteness, in some cases, and chucked under our chins because we're Americans! We deserve what we take from others.

If we're only going to DIE, this has been a cruel hoax!



The old "I've got to protect (look out for) myself at all costs to you" really gets old, doesn't it?

[The Stranger]

12. Like the old Salem Witch Hunts . . .

. . . the more things change . . . the more they stay the same.

[ima_sinnic]

13. yeah, right, especially since their idea of "looking in to" things

is to hold whomsoever they damn well please for however long they want with no evidence, no formal charges, and no access to a lawyer.

a bit paranoid about "threats to innocent Americans" are we? look no further than your own "elected" officials if you want to see the real THREAT.

welcome to DU . . . I guess.

[donsu]

2. this needs to be investigated

something is amiss.

[Judi Lynn]

3. New York Times story:Two Girls Held as U.S. Fears Suicide Bomb

Two Girls Held as U.S. Fears Suicide Bomb
By NINA BERNSTEIN

Published: April 7, 2005


wo 16-year-old girls from New York City were arrested last month and charged with immigration violations after the F.B.I. asserted that they intended to become suicide bombers, according to a government document. A spokesman for one of their families, however, said the accusation was false and said the government had probably misinterpreted a school essay written by one of the girls.

The girls are both in the country illegally, one born in Guinea and the other from Bangladesh, and are being held in a family detention center in Leesport, in southeastern Pennsylvania, according to the document, provided by a federal agent. They were arrested on March 24, and one appeared at an immigration hearing on April 1 in York, Pa.

The document, which describes the background of the case, said the F.B.I. believed the girls presented "an imminent threat to the security of the United States based upon evidence that they plan to be suicide bombers." It does not describe the nature of that evidence.

But one federal official, not connected to the F.B.I., expressed skepticism that the teenagers represented a real risk of a suicide bombing.

"There are doubts about these claims, and no evidence has been found that such a plot was in the works," said the government official in Washington, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case involves a pending legal matter. A senior law enforcement official in New York voiced the same doubts.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/07/nyregion/07suicide.html?
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[Freedom_from_Chains]

4. It does not describe the nature of that evidence.

And thanks to the Patriot Act, and other atrocities of law, the government no longer has to be burden with the inconvenience of matters of evidence. Sure makes me feel a lot safer. How about you?

[Judi Lynn]

5. You're right. They need to be F-R-E-E to arrest when the spirit moves them

Unencumbered by silly details. That inhibits creativity! Apparently nothing can stop them now.

More from the story:

According to Mr. Carroll, the parents of the Bangladeshi girl, who live in Queens Village, went to the local police station house several weeks ago, seeking a complaint against their teenage daughter, who had defied their authority. The family dispute was soon resolved, and they then tried to withdraw the complaint, which they believe set off the investigation.

Police detectives, and then federal immigration agents, searched her belongings and confiscated her computer and the essays that she had written as part of a home schooling program, according to the family. One essay concerned suicide. The family maintained that the essay asserted that suicide is against Islamic law, but it led investigators to question her sharply about her political beliefs.

Detectives from the precinct went to the girl's home to question her about two weeks before her arrest, Mr. Carroll said, asking about her absence from a public high school since September. The mother said her daughter would be schooled at home and was seeking a high school equivalency degree because of conflicts between her Islamic dress code - a full veil - and the school's dress code.

According to the family, the detectives, who had no warrant, searched the house and the teenager's belongings. The next day, the mother received a phone call from one of the detectives, a woman, saying that her daughter had extremist beliefs and promoted concepts like suicide bombing. Both mother and daughter denied the allegation, saying that she was against such ideas.

Last night, a 20-year-old woman friend of the Bangladeshi teenager said she had known the young woman for three years and was close to her. Told of the allegations, she responded in disbelief, "That's crazy."
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This is just horrid. Overbearing. Heavy handed. Stupid. Republican.

They are pursuing a vapor here, a whimsy.

[lindsayg]

10. So this is what the war on terror has come down to

Can't find the real people who want to hurt us so we're going after 16 year old girls now. Isn't that lovely.

[shadowknows69]

16. The gestapo needs a couple new rape dolls

[truthisfreedom]

14. sigh. they're making examples of these kids.