Activist hit by pie at Butler lecture (David Horowitz)

[wicket]

http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/235034-8678-102.html

A conservative activist who criticizes what he calls the leftist domination of college campuses was struck with a pie Wednesday night at Butler University.

David Horowitz, president of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture, had just started a lecture at Butler when he was hit.

Horowitz's supporters followed the assailants out of the hall, and confronted them with what a witness called "pushing and shoving." However, the attackers got away.

"There's a wave of violence on college campuses, committed by what I'd call fascists opposing conservatives," Horowitz said. "It's one step from that to injury."

[Julius Civitatus]

1. Photos

David Horowitz is a massive @sshole, a modern day McCarthy.

Here's a photo:

[Cooley Hurd]

7. Couldn't have happened to a bigger dickhead!

:applause:

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

13. I've seen him on Dennis Miller's show a few times...

...and it's not just his political views. Horowitz is one smug S.O.B...he does the condescending smirk as well as Bush. He's just an arrogant, smug prick. The debate can go on about whether he deserved the pie, and at the end of the debate, he'll still be an arrogant, smug prick.

[Pachamama]

45. Beautiful Image....

Couldn't have happened to a bigger asshole....other than maybe Richard Perle?

[MARALE]

47. New smilie for this!

I have to use it!!!

[Zerex71]

51. It's funny how pie-throwing is considered violence

but killing almost 200,000 people is considered "liberation" and "democracy". Those wacky conservatives and their crazy Manglish!

[KansDem]

85. Yes! It's the bad example set by "Soupy Sales!"

[tedzbear]

108. White Fang would say, "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!

I wonder if the LP is still in print?? I hope so.

[KansDem]

110. I've got a copy!

Picked up up back in the 1960s

Little Jimmy Jones,
Just got spanked
For fishing all the fish out of his father's tank.
Jimmy was blue,
As he could be,
Until he turned on his TeeVee,

and Jimmy saw me get
a pie in the face
and that made Jimmy laugh
It made him smile, instead of frown,
It picked him way up when he was feelin' way down!
etc. etc.

I can't believe I still remember one of the songs on that LP!

[jdj]

91. thank you that was my first thought.

[InternalDialogue]

60. Yes, but do you have a picture of him AFTER the pie hit him? n/t

[Skittles]

74. lol..................ID

FUNNY :D

[d_b]

76. The pie brigade is nailing everyone.

The only one they havn't hit is the Chimpster.

We can only hope.

[yorkiemommie1]

77. great aim!

another twister of the truth.

[BigBearJohn]

100. I they should have thrown a frozen one instead. Better effect.

[WLKjr]

105. Another ASSHAT

[ellenfl]

107. is this the same david horowitz that did a consumer

rights show a couple of decades ago? i LIKED that guy.

ellen fl

[donco6]

115. In the old days rotten tomatoes sufficed.

And he would have deserved those as well.

[tinanator]

116. a professional Judas

Headline kind of smears the word activist

[onenote]

2. forced nutrition

Not fascism...just forced nutrition and hydration...good ol' conservative values...

onenote

[spooky3]

66. good one!

[Mari333]

3. hahahaha

Oh hes calling it a wave of violence when he gets hit with a pie? what a wuss.

[Fenris]

4. About goddamn time.

[CottonBear]

5. Ah. The cream pie and salad dressing revolution is going well.

:applause:

[htuttle]

9. The rallying cry for the next revolution will be

FOOOOOOD FIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!

[alittlelark]

14. LOL, too funny! I was drinking tea at the time....

:spray:

[CottonBear]

23. LOL! You got to use the spray smiley!

I would love to see that Ann Coulter pie video again.

One of our DU photshoppers should make a pie and salad dressing hall of shame image! It looks like we'll have more folks to add in the future.

[wicket]

16. much better than the bullets so many of our leaders took in the 60s

:(

[kentuck]

6. The "pie" has become the mark of the beast.

:) Not that I agree with the tactic but it is funny..

[jonnyblitz]

8. oh good! if i had to pick a person for this to happen to

it would be that red baiting fuckwad!! YAY!! :toast:

[formerrepuke]

10. Deserves a dog shit w/whipped cream pie in the face every time he speaks

[Kerrytravelers]

11. "It's one step from that to injury."

Hummm.... kind of like the injury and DEATH the reich is causing American military and Iraqis?

Gee..... makes his little pie injury slightly less critical, doesn't it?

[flamingyouth]

12. Hee hee

:D

[hunter]

25. That should cost you your moderator status!

Well, according to David Horowitz it should...

Damned flaming youths!

:evilgrin:

[Skittles]

75. in theory I cannot condone it, yet I am laughing my ass off

it's a quandary *sigh*

[hunter]

83. Yes, it is.

*sigh*

[regularguy]

15. F-ck him!

I've never before chimed in on a thread simply to say "fuck him", but horowitz deserves it. I hope he gets...I dunno...a yeast infection or something...

[Rose Siding]

17. A "wave of violence"?

I'm counting 3 food throwing incidents. That is, coincidentally, the number of dead judges/family members of judges, for which conservatives in the Senate voiced an "understanding".

Just saying...

[Zenlitened]

40. Excellent point.

:thumbsup:

[CottonBear]

53. 4 incidents: 3 pies, 1 salad dressing.

:)

[Griffy]

55. and a SHOE! nt

[CottonBear]

56. You're right. There was a shoe incident too!

Cream Pies: Coulter, ? , Horowitz

Salad Dressing: Buchanan

Shoe: Perle

[marions ghost]

92. also

Bill Kristol--cream pie

[Roland99]

86. But....honestly

who throws a shoe?

[NYC]

96. Saboteurs throw shoes.

Saboteurs, sabotage, sabot.

Sabot = wooden shoe.

It is suggested by some that this term for wanton destruction derives from striking workers throwing wooden shoes, or sabot, into machinery in order to destroy it. This belief was popularized when it was repeated in one of the Star Trek movies. (This belief existed long before Star Trek was invented.)

Sabotage does indeed derive from the French sabot and from striking workers, but not in the sense suggested. While sabot can mean a wooden shoe, it can also mean a metal shoe or clamp for holding a piece of metal in place (it can also mean a type of anti-tank ammunition, but that's another story). The second sense is what sabotage is derived from.

Specifically, sabotage comes from the practice by striking French railway workers of cutting the sabot that held railroad tracks in place. The word appears in English in 1910 and early use specifically refers to the French railroad strikers.

http://www.wordorigins.org/wordors.htm

[Roland99]

109. Pffffft...explaining away a joke makes it not funny anymore

:P



But, thanks for the info. I didn't know that.

[NYC]

111. Sorry. I've always been fascinated by sabots.

When I was in grammar school, they taught us that European factory workers threw their wooden shoes into industrial machinery; hence, sabotage.

Funny what sticks with you through the decades.

[MissMarple]

80. And a member of Congress "understands" the gunmen's feelings.

That idiot congressman from Texas thinks some waves of violence are quite logical. He believes that activist judges (ones who are not Republican Party suck ups) deserve what they get.

[joefree1]

18. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

You made my day. Now if someone could finally land a pie on Annthrax Koulter.

[Viking12]

22. Partial hit, University of ArizonaOct 2004

***SHOCK: The lurid Bill O'Reilly sex harassment suit

"Al Pieda" Targets Ann Coulter
Conservative author survives creamy stage-left attack
OCTOBER 22--Meet "Al Pieda" disciples Phillip Edgar Smith and William Zachary Wolff. The Tucson men, both 24, were arrested last night after throwing custard cream pies at author Ann Coulter during her speech at the University of Arizona. Portions of the pies connected with the conservative commentator's face and shoulder, according to this police report, which quotes Smith saying that he and Wolff were "throwing the pies at her ideas not at her." Cops also noted that a post-arrest search of the assailants turned up "pieces of paper (propaganda) involving Coulter's name and the explanation of 'Al Pieda.'" Smith, a UA student, and Wolff were charged with criminal damage, a felony, and misdemeanor counts of disorderly conduct, vandalism, and assault without injury. The felony charge resulted from damage to a backdrop that school officials estimated at $3000. The report describes the woven cloth backdrop as a "muslim scrim." The pie provocateurs were booked into the Pima County Jail--where the below mug shots were snapped--and scheduled for a court appearance today. If you're wondering about the sheets Smith and Wolff are wearing, they're not Bedouins. As a courtesy, the Pima jailers use them to cover the lockup's standard-issue orange jumpsuits.



http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1022042coulter1.html

[NYC]

97. Muslim scrim or muslin?

Muslin is cotton. Muslin scrim would be a loosely woven cotton.

I have no idea what muslim scrim would be.

...a backdrop that school officials estimated at $3000. The report describes the woven cloth backdrop as a "muslim scrim."

[InternalDialogue]

19. Goddamned liberal activist pastry chefs! n/t

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

26. i nominate your comment for post of the day

...

[CottonBear]

57. I second that nomination!

:evilgrin:

[InternalDialogue]

58. Well, there are a lot of people to thank.

First, I'd like to thank Adenoid_Hynkel, without whose nomination I would never be here to accept this award. I'd also like to thank New Zealand, whose stunning landscapes are really the true stars of my post... Wait, stop the music! I'm not done with my speech yet!

[CatWoman]

33. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

fucking stop it!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Laurab]

38. No - they're FACIST liberal activist pastry chefs

he said facists, and he should know. I'm SO glad their aim seems to be getting better!

[anarchy1999]

20. An extreme case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Now remind me please, Horowitz, just who are the FACISTS?

"Facists opposing conservatives", what a bunch of BS!

Someone please send him the list of 14 characteristics of "facism", better yet send him Eric Blum's latest flash, think he'd understand it then?

http://www.bushflash.com/14.html

[aneerkoinos]

21. Caking

I love it, much of it's power lies in the fact that when the pompous asses that become "victims" of this particular art of ridicule start whining and blaming, they just lose more face ...

[Dukkha]

24. We need to take this up a notch

Human feces pies! Really runny smelly shit with corn and everything!

Nothing would make me happier than to see Coulter get slammed in the face with the same shit she spews out. Oh man, that would be so great!

or the classic Act Up! stunt, throwing blood on people. Rumsfeld would be most worthy of that.

[rocktivity]

27. Unfortunately he's right

And so has Al Franken in speaking out agaisnt this. Like the Minutemen on the U.S./Mexican border, this can only escalate into no good.

:headbang:
rocknation

[aneerkoinos]

31. How uptight of you and Franken

This is very effective symbolic act of resistance, effective because symbols is what we are ruled by.

There's no shread of evidence of this "escalating into no good", but stupid remarks on this thread about shit pies. That would not be effective, when a pompouss ass gets pie in the face, he looses face, but in the other case it's the feces flinging monkey that looses face.

[Griffy]

67. WRONG.. we must do more.. throw tomatoes and eggs...

When you tell them to stop lying.. you point out how they are leading the people into civil war... this is "peaceful" protest.. non-violent displays of the outrage Americans feel at these criminals in office. Franken doesnt seem to acknowledge the rigged election or the real need for revolt. Franken is a moderate voice that leads people to liten to Randi.. then Malloy.. then you know! It took me time too to understand the depth of what we are up against! We have no branch of government... we have limited media (thats slowly changing).. we are up against fascist! Notice how he calls US fascist..classic, call us what they are, so it muddies the waters! If you think we should just continue to play by the rules of civility, your nuts. I guess we shouldnt have bumper stickers that are offensive... perhaps we should just keep our opinion to ourselves.. bush is our beloved leader and we should show him the respect he shows us!

BTW.. Noticethis is on campuses.. because universities are under attack, free thought is being assaulted by young (dumb) college republicans! What would you suggest? Let them spew lies unopposed? Go on fox news for honest debate!? Please, thats the point.. for gods sake, he called US fascist, cant you see these people must be shamed and exposed everywhere they go!!!

[Lilith Velkor]

81. We've been doing that in DC for years

That's why there's chainlink fences everywhere and B*sh spends more than half his time in TX.

:evilgrin:

[hadrons]

28. Horowitz's WMDs found on campus

[wakeme2008]

32. Heeeelllllppp

I am new here, I love the above post, how do I submit it to post of the day :)

[Hand]

71. Mmmm... PIE!

And that looks like a cheesecake, too!
:9

[slamthecrank]

79. HA!

And that looks like a cheesecake, too!

I believe that would be the "nuclear option".

--I'm just sayin' :)

[aneerkoinos]

29. Noel Godin

The guy who started it:

http://www.jaybabcock.com/noel.html

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

30. See?! That's the difference between people like us

and people like them. We use pies and salad dressing,they use Anthrax.
:)

[wakeme2008]

34. Question with all the made up stories David Horowitz tells

How does anybody know it this was not a staged event????

[tsuki]

89. My first thought. The events do not track. No one arrested them?

Pushing and Shoving? They got away? Sounds staged to me.

[stanwyck]

102. It's possible. Afterall

why should those other hacks get all the attention? I'm important, too! People hate me, too! Coulter was heckled. Kristol got pied. What's a whore like Horowitz to do? Admit no one cares?
Or stage a little pie event. In his favorite flavor.
Possible.

[hippiechick]

35. Another one ?

What's the deal with Indiana and pies lately ?

:shrug:

[Ian David]

61. Don't throw stuff at people. That's assault

If you want though, I suggest forcing yourself to vomit inside an enclosed space where a conservative is speaking.

Don't vomit on anyone.

So much the better if several people spaced around the room all did it at the same time.

There would be a chain-reaction of "collateral vomiting" throughout the room.

Nobody gets hurt. Nobody gets assaulted. And you get to demonstrate your disgust in a very visceral way.

It's also a good way to make room for a SECOND sushi dinner after the lecture.



Yeee-Hah! Let's go save Traditional Marriage!

[Psephos]

64. Assault is when you threaten them, battery is when you hit them...

...with a fist, a club...or a pie. Technically, hitting someone with a pie is assault and battery.

Protest is cool. Assault and battery is not.

I like the puking idea. No one gets hurt, and no one gets charged with a physical crime.

Peace.

[Ian David]

68. I suppose intentional vomiting COULD get you charged with SOMETHING

1) Littering

2) Disorderly Conduct

3) Public Nuisance

All misdemeanors, I think.

But they have to prove intent, don't they? For example, finding a big ostrich feather in your pocket.

Could they charge you with using your vomit as a "biological weapon?"

[hippiechick]

69. That's such a Saul Alinsky-esque idea !

:evilgrin: I like it !!!!

[Gemini Cat]

88. Indiana seriously loves pie! nt

[meganmonkey]

36. Food Fight Revolution is taking hold!

I don't care if it is juvenile, silly, 'makes us look bad', or all the other criticisms, I LOVE THIS STUFF!!

[Laurab]

39. Me too - it's so immature of me

but I do love it!

[Webster Green]

44. Me too!

I hope this "pies for fascists" thing really takes off!

[stanwyck]

101. At least it's honest

we're not using taxpayer money to pay-off columnists (who fail to reveal they're being paid to regurgitate Bushian talking points). We're not lying about WMD. We're not lying a la Martinez about the heinous Terri Shiavo memo (let's make Terri's death work for us!). We're throwing pies. And people think this is subversive?
Look. It's makes the news. The MSM love this stuff. They hate these blowhard windbags the same as other thinking people. (well, Faux may not hate them...they're on the same team). So. The pies work. No one gets hurt. It's a message. With fruit and whipped cream.

[flordehinojos]

37. this is the beginning of the American Revolution - Part II

Insurgents are dissenting from the whole right wing crapola and that is how revolutions begin when a few good rebels and insurgents begin to make their voices heard--as they are currently being lifted on america's college campuses, thankful as we all are, i am sure that no bullets etc have been used to express rebellion or dissent but only pies and salad dressings and one lone egg on a black, motorized, militarized moving fortress.

VIVA LA REVOLUCIóN!

[Merope215]

41. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

:evilgrin:

[Sequoia]

42. Serves you right Turn Coat!

[daleo]

43. Should we not spunge him? n/t

[Castilleja]

94. Hahaha!

Made me laugh, Daleo!:7

[VOX]

112. HAH!!!!!

:thumbsup:

[librechik]

46. I interviewed him once.

He got bent out of shape when I hinted that he was a conservative. "See, that's the sort of stereotype I'm fighting!" he said.

Whatever...

not a nice man. He looks good slicked down with pie goo, though!

[Swamp Rat]

48. HAHAHA!!! David Horowitz got nailed!!!

:D

[Pachamama]

93. A Beautiful thing indeed!

Couldn't have happened to a bigger and more deserving asshole...other than Richard Perle or Dick Cheney!

:hi:

That image made my day....

[Marthe48]

49. Wouldn't it be anarchists?

From my history classes I seem to recall that the right side of the pendulum was conservative with the most extreme becoming fascists, and the left side was liberal with the most extreme becoming anarchists.

[Zerex71]

50. Viva La Revolucion!

[colonel odis]

52. not to turn serious or anything, but with that new gun law in florida

horowirtz could probably have shot the pie-pertrator in cold blood and had no charges filed against him.

that oughta scare the fuck out of ya.

[Pithy Cherub]

54. These pie and salad dressing throwers have excellent aim.

MLB should pay attention.:rofl:

[Catt03]

59. The only really downside to this is

RW speakers who earn thousands to speak, is that they may get smart and decide they will only do Florida as they have some protection here.

With the "Stand Your Ground" law, they get a pie, they can pull out their AK-47 and shot the pie thrower. Jeb Bush and the FL legislature would then be able to bask in the success of their new public achievement

[Ian David]

65. Beware of escalating The Great Foodfight of 2005

The Religious Right have been developing their own weapons to counter The Liberal Threat, and their technology is far more advanced than our own:

[Sabriel]

103. Will Jay-Jay the Jet Plane deliver this nutritious payload? n/t

[Deja Q]

62. Uh, Horrorwitz misses the obvious:

Most college kids see the world for what it is.

By the time they're full adults, they've porked and brought a baby into this world and have to fend off everybody else in order to try to raise it. The fact they prefer to make a baby instead of band together to fix this insane world speaks volumes. That or they're apathetic, a quality I no longer despise.

[justicebuilder]

63. Let me get this straight

Two people getting hit with pies is a "wave of violence." Dozens of people being tortured to death in a prison set up by an invading army is a fraternity prank.

I guess it's true what they say... Circumstances alter cases. It all depends on whose ox is being gored, doesn't it?

[shadowknows69]

70. if throwing a pie is violence

I guess they might as well be throwing rocks then. Or baseballs, or power tools......

[Synnical]

72. Biotic Baking Brigade - Speaking Pie to Power!

http://bioticbakingbrigade.org/

About Us:

As multinational corporations accelerate the plunder of our world, a militant resistance has formed in response. Diverse in philosophy and targets, diffuse in geography and structure, the movement comprises freedom-loving folks with a sense of aplomb and gastronomics. Fighting a guerrilla media and ground war with the titans of industry, these revolutionary bakers and pie-slingers have achieved in short order what can truly be called a Global Pastry Uprising (GPU).

This uprising has its roots in the belief that our planet is not dying, it is being killed; and the ones doing the killing have names and faces. Since the GPU began in the late 20th century, dozens of prominent corporate executives, politicians, economists, and sell-out non-governmental organization "leaders" have received their just desserts for crimes against people and the land. When it comes to defending the Earth from the corporate universe, the pie's the limit!

<snip>

Pie-slinging is just one tool in a large toolbox of resistance to the dominant paradigm. We have tried everything within the spectrum of nonviolent protest to effect positive change and will continue to do so. Pieing has broadened the scope of protest, instead of replacing other methods. Having said that, we also believe that it's far better to pie on our feet than to live on our knees.

[Skittles]

73. see Mr. Horowitz, we throw pies

your kind sends our soldiers off to die

[yorkiemommie1]

78. or we could stage a mass

fart fest.

[SoCalDem]

82. The Rebellion lives....

SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-01-05 08:33 AM
Original message
The Egg, Pie, and Salad Dressing Rebellion..

Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 09:30 AM by SoCalDem
Today on Washington Journal, a teensy bit of the Ann Coulter incident was mentioned and then a bit about the salad dressing incident with pat Buchanan. Of course Brian Lamb chuckled a bit when he reported it, and seemed truly confused as to why this is happening.
People make a long distance call to C-Span, sometimes dialing for hours....get through..and if they are not disconnected duing the interminable wait, they are given a scant 30-45 SECONDS to try to make their point. Of course if there is a "guest", the guest always gets the oppportunity to totally ignore the comments or just re-spin their propaganda.

What Brian does not understand is this:

When ordinary people are DENIED their opportunity to set the record straight, and are finally tired of hearing propaganda, they will resort to extremes, just to make a point. We rarely see "the pundits" squirting salad dressing or tossing the occasional egg. The reason they don't have to is that they have virtually unlimited air time, and have the capability to "silence" any and all "guests" who dare to disagree with them.

The president and his minions travel the US on OUR dime, and then speak before hand-picked audiences. If a detractor manages to get inside, and has the courage to say his/her piece, they are unceremoniously escorted OUT, and possibly arrested. The next time they try to fly, they might find out there are further ramifications too..

A person like Coulter is paid 10s of thousands of dollars to spew hatred, and then "deputizes" burly republican students to "throw the dissenters out". This is incitement to violence, pure and simple, and she's being paid by a university that is supported by ALL our tax dollars, democrats and republicans.

Pat Buchanan may have every right to say his xenophobic "piece", but he should expect to hear some opposition when he ventures outside his little media cocoon. Salad Dressing is actually quite inventive when you consider that lettuce pickers tend NOT to be blond, blue-eyed wasps.

When a Vice president or president "visits" a town, it should not be unusual for the general public to take notice and want to participate in some way. Tossing an egg at a vehicle that would probably fare well in a nuclear blast, is not a threat..especially when it's tossed by an adolescent girl.

None of these bold "attacks" are sophisticated or even original, but it's a symptom of just how frustrated half (or more) of the nation has become. It's kind of like a water balloon.. Squeeze one part of it, and the water will just go to the other side, but if you twist it and poke it and stomp on it, the water balloon will eventually burst.

It is ironic though, that these pranks are widely reported, when millions of people in the streets marching, is not..

Civil disobedience is a long-held tenet of our country and "first amendment zones", hermetically sealed leaders and storm-troopers lining the streets are starting to bring out the "kid" in all of us..

We must be careful though... There was a girl who put a flower in a gun barrel...and then 4 students died.. (Kent State)









http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3401812

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

87. Thank you for reposting that!

I remember glancing at it before, and thinking "this is a near-perfect summation of my thinking on this"!
But alas, I forgot who posted it originally.
Now I know...
Again, thanks!

[MisterP]

84. Dear Mr. Horowits: Shut up! You're one of the head fascists, either

crushing dissent or whining about it!

[formerrepuke]

90. Another hit from Al- "Pie"da terror network... Note: I cannot take credit

for that clever moniker- some other DUer came up with that one a few pie-in-the-face attacks ago. But really, if this is an emerging trend, we need to get it a name-and Al-"Pie"da seems catchy enough..

[youspeakmylanguage]

95. Whatever happened to streaking?

These repugs don't deserve the press these incidents provide. Also, it isn't a good idea to physically assualt anyone over politics.

Sooooo, why don't those of you involved in campus politics start streaking again? Waving your collective private parts at these thugs sends the same message without the assault charges.

[hunter]

98. Doesn't work anymore...

They will label you a "sex offender."

(Mostly they are just jealous.)

3.141592653589793....

[Al-CIAda]

104. Excellent! nt

[BigBearJohn]

99. Swanson Pies should market a new cream pie as "Republican WMD"

"Can be used frozen or thawed"

[salin]

106. In Indiana, no less!

:D

[wicket]

113. kick

:kick:

[NNguyenMD]

114. conservatives don't through pies at liberal speakers b/c...

they would rather use an automatic weapon.

They're the ones who incite violence, not us.

David Horowitz should shut his fuckign pie whole along with the rest of his bacon fat ass.