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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:40 PM
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DeLay: Those Responsible for Schiavo's Death Will Answer For It
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 05:24 PM by RedEarth
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Thursday urged the country to honor Terri Schiavo's memory by working to "build a culture of life" while House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said "the men responsible for this" will be called to account.

The Florida woman, who suffered severe brain damage after a heart attack 15 years ago, died Thursday. The feeding tube that had been keeping her alive was removed with a judge's approval on March 18.

DeLay appeared to condemn judges who at both the state and federal level declined to order that Schiavo be kept alive artificially.

"This loss happened because our legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that will change," the Texas Republican said. "The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior, but not today. Today we grieve, we pray, and we hope to God this fate never befalls another."

White House press secretary Scott McClellan declined to sign on to judicial criticism. "We would have preferred a different decision from the courts ... but ultimately we have to follow our laws and abide by the courts," he said.



Bush's "Culture of Life".........



http://www.firstcoastnews.com/printfullstory.aspx?storyid=34873
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:41 PM
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1. He's going to execute HOW many judges?
:wow:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:22 PM
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38. delay = Vengeful , Hateful, Nut-Job, Sack of Shit
Like Pharaoh he should be very careful, what he wishes on others.

He too could have a stroke and be confined to a bed, with a diaper.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:41 AM
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112. DeLay, go Cheney yourself.
Mind your own business, you hypocritical POS.

I truly despise him.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:48 PM
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132. Actually, though I'm not a believer...
...I think the question is, "So, how you going to make God pay, DeLay?"

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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:41 PM
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2. "Bring it on"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bug Boy
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simcha_6 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:42 PM
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3. How mature of McClellan
As for DeLay, I think he's just trying to tell the religious right that divine justice will be done, so they don't attack him for not doing enough.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:06 PM
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29. Yes, let the hatchet men cut down the third branch
while the President pretends to take the high ground. Fuck these dictators.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:42 PM
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4. And your father PestMan, who will answer for him?
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 04:43 PM by Say_What
you hypocritical, corrupt POS. :puke:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:43 PM
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5. "our legal system did not protect the people who need the protection most"
Tom Delay, more than any other living person I belive is responsible for the system failing those who need it most. This guys is a total joke. There must be a special place in hell reserved for Tom Delay.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:29 PM
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82. DeLay is virulently opposed to worker rights.
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 09:31 PM by CBHagman
Besides having an almost pathological hatred of government regulation (read "The Hammer" by Lou Dubose and Jan Reid and you'll see what I mean), DeLay has another extremely dirty secret: countenancing sweatshop conditions and low wages for workers, all in the name of free enterprise.

See this story from the Christian Science Monitor, or just Google "Tom DeLay" and "Marianas."

http://csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/durableRedirect.pl?/durable/1998/01/13/us/us.1.html

"House majority whip Tom DeLay (R) of Texas got some unwanted attention over the holidays when he, his family, and three staff aides took an all-expenses-paid trip to the Northern Mariana Islands, a US territory in the Pacific. The islands are involved in a high-profile lobbying campaign to keep their exemption from federal wage, labor, and immigration standards. Critics, including the Clinton administration, charge that the islands are exploiting Filipino and Chinese workers in garment sweatshops for low wages. Because of the Marianas' status, the clothing, worth millions, bears the 'Made in USA' label. The Marianas' government spent as much as $1.5 million lobbying Congress in 1997, Roll Call reports. Including the DeLay entourage, a total of 88 congressional visitors visited the islands last year (including seven lawmakers, five spouses, one child, and 75 staffers), the newspaper says. In a Houston Chronicle interview, Representative DeLay derided the Marianas' critics in the administration as bureaucrats with a 'leftist bent' who want to keep the islands 'dependent' on federal aid. The newspaper quoted him as calling the Saipan garment industry a 'free-market success,' and reported DeLay found that the workers he spoke with, who make at most $3.05 an hour, were reasonably satisfied with their work and were making more than they would in their native China or the Philippines. DeLay called for creation of a similar guest-worker program in the 50 states, 'where particular companies can bring Mexican workers in' at 'whatever the wage market will bear.'"

DeLay is hardly known for extending mercy to the vulnerable, which makes his current posturing all the more repulsive.
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:43 PM
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6. FUCK YOU BUGMAN!!!
your day will come,your seat in the house is up for grabs asshole,that is,if you aren't arrested for something first :grr::mad::argh::rant:
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:43 PM
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7. I am VERY glad to see this being covered. His statement...
... should send a shiver of fear through every remaining American citizen with a sense of decency.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:44 PM
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8. protect those that need it most?
he's such a fuckhead. what about the 6 mo. old that was taken off of life support? In his own fucking state.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:55 PM
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18. that didnt have MSM coverage
so it didnt exist.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:18 AM
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115. Was that 6 month-old by any chance poor? Black? n/t
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:45 PM
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9. never befalls another???
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 04:46 PM by progressiveBadger
What a bunch of crap. His own state has a law that recently took away protection from someone who needed "protection most".
It's funny to see the white house back away from the mess they got themselves into. And it is interesting that the press is finally calling the feeding tube "artificial".

On Edit: Yay, my 1000th post!
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montana_hazeleyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:51 PM
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78. Congratulations progressiveBadger!
:applause:
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:55 AM
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90. Guess which governor signed that law...
The law that allowed Sun Hudson to be removed from life support was signed by Simian boy himself, and it's used if the patient doesn't have the money to pay for the care.

So apparently, the culture of life extends only to those who can afford it. Also, Sun was black, so I'm sure Bush or DeLay wouldn't have lifted a finger to help him.

Another thing to remember, is that Sun's mother received no prenatal care, presumably because she couldn't afford it. What about helping people like Sun, and his mother, bugman?
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:46 PM
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10. "...and that will change."
"This loss happened because our legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that will change," the Texas Republican said.

Meaning he's gonna slam through some more gerrymandering to save his own pathetic ass from the kicking it deserves?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:47 PM
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11. Unhuh! Okay. If you say so. Looks like bush is ready to sell you upriver.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:48 PM
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12. Only in America
This guy is such a winner :woohoo:
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:50 PM
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13. Further proof that Delay is a criminal.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:51 PM
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14. "Today we grieve" Ok Delay is grieving because Terry couldn't save
his pathetic lying criminal ass. that picture of him is horrific, he must have run over a democrat on his way to that party.
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:52 PM
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15. delay's not gonna do shit. he's just posturing and pandering
for the right-wing's fundie base. perhaps looking for a few contributions to his defense fund, which he'll surely need in the near future.

he's a typical, big-talking republican, who in the end has neither the testicles to stand up for anything nor the spine to stand up to anything.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:54 PM
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17. yeah
but he is sending out (poorly) coded messages to fundie sociopaths.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:58 PM
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20. Somewhere out there is the next Timothy McVeigh.
:scared:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:03 PM
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25. Correct
the next terra attack will come because of this
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Medium Baby Jesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:34 PM
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46. This is the second thread where you stole my comment
Knock it off.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:42 PM
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49. Tee hee hee!
Sorry, I'll put my tinfoil hat back on, to filter out the ESP-waves! :tinfoilhat:

:hi:
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:02 PM
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23. i'm not sure fundie sociopaths (isn't that redundant?) need egging on.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:18 PM
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126. excellent points
thanks for pointing out my redundancy, great catch.

you are also correct about them not needing any egging on.

you have single-handedly made my contribution null and void. thanks a lot!. :cry:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:53 PM
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16. sure sounds like a threat to me
i wonder if that means we don't get a free termite inspection.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:56 PM
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19. He is egging religious maniacs on.
This hypocrite doesn't have a molecule of decency in his body. This is a threat, pure and simple. Maybe some McVeigh type out there will take him up on it, and shoot himself some judges or one of the Shiavo family.

"The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior, but not today."
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:00 PM
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21. exactly
he knows exactly what he is doing.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:04 PM
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26. Precisely
and he knows he's immune from prosecution while speaking in an official capacity (Congress in session)...can't even touch him for instigating if some nut should commit murder
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:33 AM
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123. The psychopaths will see this as an okay
to commit violence.
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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:46 PM
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131. delay
The time will come when Delay will have to answer for his behavior, the asshole.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:02 PM
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22. We are gonne go nuclaer
see this has been all about the independent judiciary
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:03 PM
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24. He recently
had his heart checked for irregular beats (Arrhythmia)? That is not good. I wonder if he is medicated.

180
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:04 PM
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27. Wow, he skipped insane and went right for delusional...
The words of a desperate man.
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loro mi dicevano Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:05 PM
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28. Ummm...


(OMG I'm HORRIBLE!)
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #28
33. That was absolutely hilarious in the sickest sort of way.
Nice one.
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loro mi dicevano Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:23 PM
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40. You know, I just couldn't help it when I saw that picture. ;)
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:28 PM
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41. I think there's less brain activity in the left picture...(eom)
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:06 AM
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88. ohhhhh
you bad ;)
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Hamsta1 Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:05 AM
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118. You just made my day!
He's "channeling" her to determine what her wishes are. How else do you think he could be so freakin sure of what she wants??

thank you loro mi dicevano
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:26 PM
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127. great post
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 06:27 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
:rofl:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:06 PM
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30. He shouldn't be threatenng the judiciary these days
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:07 PM
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31. IOKIYAAR*
* Its OK if you are a republican.

Nothing will happen to Delay. The WaPo and the NYT won't even carry the story.
Remember back in '93 or '94, that wonderful Senator from North Carolina, Jesse Helms, implied that Clinton's life would be in danger if he came to North Carolina without the Secret Service.
Nothing happened to him.
There are more than a single standard for political behavior in this country. The repukes pretty much make up their standard as they go along. Now, Democrats, that's a different story. They even have, ghasp!, oral sex!
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EBK Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:08 PM
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32. He better hope he doesn`t get a DUI coming home from a GOP
party...Judges tend to stick together - especially when threatened
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:10 PM
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34. all bombings of state courts and judicial assassinations are on his head..
fricking Bugboy....

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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:16 PM
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35. "Judge Greer is an evil man." Dobson (Focus on the family)
Yes! I quote verbatim this Religious nut case Dobson said FLAT OUT on (ready for this?) FOX Cable News a little after 4 PM today.

"JUDGE GREER IS AN EVIL MAN." Dobson!

These people are the true corrupt and evil personas.

I hope Michael Schiavo can sue the pants off FOX cable news who has paraded a slew of lies and half-truths about this case.

These religious freaks and a few of our sell-outs (Nader, J. Jackson) are both dangerous AND f**king Nuts! ... thank you George Carlin ;)
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:54 PM
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80. So much for Judge not lest ye be judged
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:18 PM
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36. I find it beyond disgusting that those crowing loudest about
"a culture of life" come from a state that leads just about everybody in the rate of death row executions. I guess some lives are just more "cultured" than others.

Jonathan Alter had an excellent column in Newsweek that pointed out that Bush -- the new CULTURE OF LIFE CHAMPION -- eventually took less than 15 minutes to decide who lived and who died (most often died) in Texas when he was governor. Other governors agonize over similar decisions, but not Bush, because he placed full trust and confidence in that the courts knew what they were doing.

Again...some lives are just worth more than others, apparently, especially if you can measure that worth by votes.

And, gee, what a stunning revelation by Scott McClellan, about following the law and abiding by court decisions.

:puke: :grr:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:02 PM
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72. I think only PRC leads Texas in executions.
"Culture of life" my ass!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:19 PM
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37. We should make McClellan EAT these words
"...but ultimately we have to follow our laws and abide by the courts," he said.

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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:23 PM
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39. You mean the parents AND the husband who drove her to eating disorder???
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 05:26 PM by Kashka-Kat
Sad, sad story. Im sure there were control issues in that family waaay before heart attack & brain injury, & subsequent battle over her body. When I heard she had eating disorder it all fell into place. I know a neurotic family when I see one!

May she finally rest in peace.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:30 PM
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43. Not neurotic, self-aggrandizing delusional, bordering on psychotic FAMILY
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:03 PM
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129. Sounds like DeLay and his co-horts are attempting to overthrow the US
Goverment. Shouldn't he be charged with Treason, he took an oath to defend and support the Constitution of the US? Dobson and those that treaten the life or profession of any Judge, be it the hamlet community judge right on up to the Federal Supreme Court Justices, should be arrested and prosecuted.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:28 PM
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42. This whole mess backfired on him and so he's trying to pass it off.
Sorry, BUGMAN, YOU OWN THIS ONE.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:31 PM
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44. didn't Tom Delay kill his dad ?
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:34 PM
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45. Shh! A ventilator is medical intervention but a feeding tube is *natural*
What insane rationalization. Both are medical interventions. Hypocrites!
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:36 PM
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47. Yes, he did.......here's the story.....
DeLay Let Brain-Damaged Father Die
LOS ANGELES, March 27, 2005


House Speaker Tom DeLay, who has helped lead a congressional effort to keep a brain-damaged Florida woman alive, joined family members nearly 17 years ago in allowing doctors not to take extraordinary measures to extend his father's life, the Los Angeles Times reported Sunday.

DeLay had just been re-elected to a third term in Congress in 1988 when his father, Charles DeLay, was badly injured in the crash of a backyard tram he and his brother had built. As DeLay's vital organs began to fail, the family chose not to connect him to a dialysis machine or take other measures to prolong his life, according to the Times, which cited court documents, medical records and interviews with family members.

"There was no point to even really talking about it," Maxine DeLay, the congressman's 81-year-old widowed mother, told the Times. "Tom knew, we all knew, his father wouldn't have wanted to live that way."

DeLay helped push through Congress a federal law allowing the parents of Terri Schiavo to go to federal court in an effort, so far unsuccessful, to have their brain-damaged daughter's feeding tube reinserted after state courts allowed it to be removed. The Texas Republican has also criticized Schiavo's husband and the courts for allowing what he called "an act of barbarism" against Schiavo, who doctors say is in a persistent vegetative state.

DeLay declined to be interviewed about his father's case, but a press aide said it was "entirely different than Terri Schiavo's."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/27/politics/printable683332.shtml
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:38 PM
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48. Didn't he also sue the manufacturer of the product? Hypocrite squared!
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:43 PM
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50. Yup, but now it's tort reform time!
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:09 PM
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59. allowed him to die in dignity
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:30 PM
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68. I heard he ate
Jerry Falwell's cat!
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:48 PM
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51. Tom Delay: "I am God and you should bow before me!"
What a self-righteous, hypocritical piece of shit. I hope he runs for President and gets the nomination. We'll beat his ass.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:51 PM
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53. i think we should be afraid of what is to come with those comments
He is like a wounded animal.
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Tiberius Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:51 PM
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52. CODE WORD ALERT!!!
"This loss happened because our legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that will change"

= EQUALS =

"Women's right to choose will become a thing of the past."

- Tiberius the Code Monkey
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:44 AM
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113. NO DOUBT ABOUT THIS!
Sorry...had to shout on this one. It's so frustrating to be watching this conflation. :cry:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:54 PM
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54. Does any of this apply to Baby Sun Hudson?
I guess not--Bush is responsible for pulling the plug on him.

:headbang:
rocknation
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:44 PM
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77. I found a picture of Baby Sun Hudson
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 07:46 PM by rocknation
and I'm glad before his story faded away. I'm going to be doing a lot of haunting of the Bush empire with this picture....



:headbang:
rocknation
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Threedifferentones Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:57 PM
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55. The revelation that he did the same thing to his own father didn't
shut him up? How does he sleep at night?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:58 PM
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56. what's he going to do, execute half the judiciary?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:52 PM
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79. i love dachshunds -- i love 'em, i love 'em
i love 'em.

tom delay -- not so much.
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old blue Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:00 PM
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57. legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that
BLEEDING HEART!!!
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:04 PM
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58. Without DeLay - get rid of him.
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:12 PM
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60. how about this:
we flyer his district with photos of Iraqi war casualties and that say

"Do you mean THIS culture of life, Mr. DeLay?"

or maybe he meant THIS http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wire/la-na-delay27mar27-a,1,1259332,print.story?ctrack=2&cset=true "culture of life."

sigh.
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merci_me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:12 PM
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61. Pretty big talk for the scumbag
who will be facing judges here before he thinks, for all his illegal games. I doubt if any of them will take kindly to Delay's threats.

Keep talk Tommy. Just keep talking!!!!
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:20 PM
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62. ahem... fuckoff... pissoff... jackoff... asshole. (nt)
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:22 PM
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63. Vile, disgusting pigs, these neocons.
:argh:
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:23 PM
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64. maybe we should remove Delay's feeding tube.
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Bugaboo Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:27 PM
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65. I agree...
Let's hold those responsible accountable.

We'll start with a society that shoves all people into one unachievable body image, resulting in the suffering of young women who don't fit the norm or are overweight. We will make sure the fashion and advertising industry feel the acute pain of Terri's distorted body image that led her to an eating disorder as a way to achieve the body THEY wanted her to have.

Then we'll move next to families that put so much pressure on their daughters to achieve perfection that they start to use food as the only way to achieve control in their lives.

Next we'll move onto the scientists and inventors who push the technology envelope and develop ways to prevent nature from taking her course. If they'd never thought of a feeding tube, Terri would have been let go a long time ago.

Lastly, we'll make sure her heart is held accountable. After all, it was her heart that started this in the first place. If it just had decided to beat normally, despite her lack of potassium. If it had just pushed enough blood through her lungs and into her brain, Terri would be alive today. The only way to make sure the Culture of Life is avenged is to make sure her heart never forgets the trouble its caused.

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:28 PM
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66. I never knew those electric talking assholes had such good batteries
I mean, sheesh! 50+ years now?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:29 PM
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67. That guy needs to quit taking hits of bug-spray.
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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:33 PM
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69. culture of life
Culture of Life. Sounds good. What precisely is it? What does it mean?Are there other types of Cultures? A Culture of Bingo. A Culture of Tap Dancing.( I like that one.) A Culture of Smashing George Bush into the Ground, Face First. A Culture of a Pin-headed Moron for President.
What does it mean, aside from Bullshit?
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:38 PM
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70. Does Tom DeLay know what "accountable" even means?
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:57 PM
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71. Republicans have created a dangererous climate for judges.
Republicans will continue with their attempts to incite people to violence against judges. The demonizing of judges by Bush and other republicans is going to have an effect on some people who are dangerously unbalanced such as Tim McVeigh, Ann Coulter, and Tom DeLay. Democrats should introduce some bills in Congress to increase security for judges and their families to protect against the increased risks created by those who are demonizing judges.


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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:03 PM
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73. Answer to you? Here I am Bugboy. Bring it on.
You are a cockroach, DeLay.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:21 PM
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74. How soon before the Repubs vote against a law
that will benefit the homeless and other people who are sufferring from a lack of food. With the fuel prices continuing to spiral out of control, I think we can expect to see a lot more people getting food from places whose funding the Republicans will gleefully cut.
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:39 PM
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75. DELAY WILL BE DOING THE PERP WALK SOON
The DA in Austin is not going to let him slither away.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:42 PM
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76. Good point, Gademocrat
Way to make friends with judges, Tom--as well as shore up your base of moderate Repubs and non-fundie Christians!

:headbang:
rocknation
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:11 PM
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81. Everything Delay touches lately turns to shit.
Tom Delay is a desperate, strident, superfluous, sexually-impotent megalomaniac who will, at best, go down as pornographic graffiti in the marginalia of history. Know what I mean, Vern?

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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:00 PM
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83. CONGRESS will answer for getting involved in this . This is gonna back
fire bigtime. Americans overwhelmingly think Congress overstepped here. I think they are starting to realize that the conservatives and neocons want control, lots of it, and and in ways that most of the voters hadn't thought about, caught up as they were in a few hotbutton issues.
Conservatives want this to be a 'right to life' issue across the board, but obviously a large majority, even of those who identify themselves as evangelical Christians, believe this is a private matter and Congress and the Brothers Bush should butt out. And they know if they lose on this one, it may be a legal angle to keep abortion legal, and they just can't stand that. They're prohibitionists in all kinds of ways; they just don't want to acknowledge that the prohibition is worse than what's being prohibited.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:15 PM
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84. Ted Kennedy is the only one who has spoken about Delay's
this sickening rhetoric.


But a leading Democratic senator said DeLay's comments were "irresponsible and reprehensible." Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., said DeLay should make sure that people know he is not advocating violence against judges.

threatening rhetoric

But Kennedy said DeLay should watch his words, especially in light of the recent murder of a Georgia judge and the killing of a federal judge's husband and mother in Chicago. Kennedy noted that judges in the Schiavo case and their families have received threats.

"This case has been heartbreaking and tragic enough," Kennedy said. "It is time for mourning and healing, not for more inflammatory rhetoric, and responsible national leaders should understand that and stop this exploitation."




Detroit Free Press
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SCHIAVO_WASHINGTON?SITE=MIDTN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT




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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:26 PM
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86. Gotta love the old lion! He's saying exactly what needs to be said!
:toast:
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:18 PM
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85. Well
with nutty extremism like that you could more easily be blaming God(who has already been executed once by the RW collaborating with Empire occupation forces back in Old Palestine) and Terri herself for her bulimic behavior. Sentencing God to death and Terri to limbo life is about as extreme and pernicious as the RW can possibly get and they should stop mincing words and holding back by attacking minor third parties.

"It is better that one man die and the nation be saved." Of course that DIDN'T save the nation back then but in those days the Grand Old Hypocrites knew how to treat a defenseless victim and not just posture.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:52 AM
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87. hey, crooked buttplug, when will you answer for the $2.5 million missing
and unaccounted for from the Choctaw's that you and your right wing pal, Abrahms enjoyed?

Or better than that, when will you personally account for the deaths of our soldiers in Iraq for oil?? The 150,000+ Iraqis dead? Shame on you, DeLay, WWJD???
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:13 AM
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89. Is Tom Delay delusional? Here is a guy who is facing his world coming
down around him because of his lack of ethics and the chickens coming home to roost, he tried last week to use this Schiavo story to smokescreen his own problems and "rally the troops", but polls showed that the intervention by Congress and the President has not been popular with the American Public and has been "backfiring" as a strategy to get popular support. The fact that the news got leaked about his own decision to "pull the plug" on his father years ago (highlighting his hypocrisy) and that involvement from Congress is not popular, you would think the last thing he'd be doing is making these kind of public statements and so visibly....

The guy is either crazy or he is so arrogant and delusional about his power that he would have the gall to keep going on this topic....
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:03 AM
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91. it's a rovian "stay on message" thing. it's beyond delusion... they think
they can "create" reality by "staying on message." Dems could easily deal with Delay by staying on message about him coming apart at the seams and desperate for a distraction.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 09:31 AM
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114. So the Dems need to stay on message about the TRUTH on DELAY!
Thing that drives me crazy is that the Dems seem to often say something once and move on....no, they need to take a page out of Rove's playbook and keep on playing that message over and over again....
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:45 AM
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92. Delay: "Courts are out of control"....He means HIS control.....BBC LINK
""We will look at an arrogant, out-of-control, unaccountable judiciary that thumbed their nose at Congress and the president."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4399555.stm

No...they're doing their job you FUCKING ASSHOLE!

P.






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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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93. House leader raises possibility of trying to impeach some judges in Schiav
House leader raises possibility of trying to impeach some judges in Schiavo case


By Jesse J. Holland
ASSOCIATED PRESS
2:57 p.m. March 31, 2005

WASHINGTON – House Majority Leader Tom DeLay on Thursday blamed Terri Schiavo's death on what he contended was a failed legal system and he raised the possibility of trying to impeach some of the federal judges in the case.

"The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior," said DeLay, R-Texas.

But a leading Democratic senator said DeLay's comments were "irresponsible and reprehensible." Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., said DeLay should make sure that people know he is not advocating violence against judges.
(snip)

Asked about the possibility of the House's bringing impeachment charges against judges in the Schiavo case, DeLay said, "There's plenty of time to look into that."
(snip/...)

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20050331-1457-schiavo-washington.html
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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94. If there's any justice in the world. . .
Delay will be censured and booted from the House long before he can cause trouble for anyone else.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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95. The basics . . . the bare-assed basics . . . of Con Law 101 . . .
.
The basics . . . the bare-assed basics . . . Constitutional Law, Impeachment of Federal Judges 101:

Congress Cannot Impeach a Federal Judge Because Congress Doesn't Like a Judge's ruling! Congress May ONLY Impeach a Federal Judge Due to "bad behavior" . . . that impedes his duty on the bench, PERIOD! ("The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour. . ." U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section 1, in pertinent part)(http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article03/)

What a complete ass is Tom DeLay . . . the many years of working in the clouds of insect exterminator toxins have damaged DeLay's thinking process MANY TIMES OVER!!


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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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96. No, BugBoy...there isn't "plenty of time for that", or YOU. Buh- bye
you corrupt,self-righteous,desperate piece of shit.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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97. delay seems to think he can "delay" the inevitable... but i think he sees
an angry constituency pulling at HIS plug. go Teddy! those words were admirable. now stay on topic and pound it home. DEMAND that he denounce any violence against the Judges or Shaivo's husband. DEMAND that he tell the public not to take the law into their own hands.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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98. there is something very wrong in texas
the spawning ground of these monsters. they have corrupted the entire country.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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99. I wondered about that too..............
what is it with a state that produces so many lunatics? I've never been there, wouldn't go there if I was paid to, but surely, there has to be some good people in Texas. I'm not judging them all, but they sure do produce more than their share of loonies. Must be the heat.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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100. nahh not the heat..the pollution from OIL production......
...more likely. :evilfrown:
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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101. plenty of good people in texas:
Molly Ivins, Jim Hightower, Lady Bird Johnson just to name a few.

Not so many years ago Texas was a fairly progressive if somewhat iconoclastic state. What happened in Texas? Might as well ask what happened in Ohio, Kansas, Florida, etc.

Right Wing propaganda 24/7 with no alternative viewpoints in the last 10,15,20 years might have something to do with it.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:26 AM
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121. What happened? A Lt. Governor named Bob Bullock
Although nominally a Democrat, he essentially sold the state out to Bush and his business allies. He provided Bush with cover as a moderate during the 2000 Presidential election. Bullock dominated state government (even when Ann Richards was governor) and completely undercut the political base for progressivism in Texas. Liberals in the state had long supported him but he was basically an opportunistic power obsessed Machiavellian. Of course, Texas has always had populist-fascist tendencies. Even Sam Houston flirted with the Know-Nothings during the 1850s. Lawlessness and vigilantism have often enjoyed a certain respectability, especially when it could be directed toward Mexicans, blacks, Native Americans, Vietnamese Americans, abolitionists. Sure there are some great people in Texas but also some frighteningly evil ones. Economic development has often seemed to bring in new voters from out of state who blindly vote for the most extreme conservative Republicans. We are an incredibly anti-intellectual state subject to manipulation by swaggering, authoritarian archetypes. I could go on and on.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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102. Maybe now the Judiciary will see the light
I hope this makes both the conservative and progressive judges realize they need to close ranks and take a stand against the anti-American, anti-constitutional theocratic bullying of the religious Reich in the legislature.

Even that Holocaust-revisionist theocrat Scalia should wake-up and realize he's making a Faustian bargain with the neocon death-cult building a bridge to the 15th century.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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103. Given that the US Supremes also didn't act
he seems to be - by inference - threatening them as well. Renquist, always rw and an ally, has been a bit upset with GOP overreach in congress per courts - and two years in a row has written harsh words about it - specifically about an Ashcroftian proposal to study and report on the rate that judges follow sentencing guidelines in line with how (the rwers in congress) want judges to "act". Suspect that is why, even in light of health problems, he has not stepped down.

Bet this doesn't rhetoric doesn't sit well with some of the other judges, as well.

I am guessing this is really trying to set the stage for pushing harder (and forcing the hand in the senate pre the "nuclear option") for radical judges and trying to create a situation which - pr wise is worse of the dems. But DeLay - rightnow the master of overreach and bull in china shop - may be creating more resistance among moderate republicans - esp those in judicial circles - that will resonate, negatively, for the party in general.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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105. The Nazis gained full control of Germany when they gained full control....
....of the Judiciary. The NeoCons evidently believed that they had full control of our Judicial Branch when they took over in December 2000. After all, it took a vote by the US Supreme Court to finally give control of the White House to Herr Busch.

But recent rulings by the Judicial Branch over the last couple of years indicate that they are not the pliable bunch the NeoCons thought they were. The NeoCons risk losing some, or all, of their ill-gotten gains unless they take action to replace or intimidate judges that have, or may, make rulings against the NeoCons. This battle will definitely be something that needs to be watched closely over the next few years.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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104. Hey let's do a selection
Send the unacceptable to Tom DeLay judges to the left. Do some extraordinary rendition on em. Or maybe Gitmo or Abu Gereb,Greab, or whatever the fuck those brown skins call that place.

These people scare the shit out of me, they really do. They are total lunatics- I am the daughter of a Holocaust survivor and these people really could be Nazis, the have the same unthinking crazed zeal.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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106. pfffft
impeach people for going by the law and legal precedent?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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107. Once again, Slimer DeLay, where's the $2.5 mill you and Abrahms
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 07:44 AM by NVMojo
sto;e from the Choctow Tribe? You SUCK!!!
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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108. Against 3/4 of the United States wishes.
Great way to shoot themselves in the foot.
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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109. This is how banana republics work.
When the courts do not rule in favor of El Presidente, he just sends his goon squad out to shake down the "troublemakers" and replace them with lackeys loyal to the Jefe.
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VirginiaDem Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM
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110. This will clearly lead to impeachment proceedings at some point
because the non-nuanced right-wing are congenitally incapable of knowing when to stop. They actually believe this claptrap about judicial tyranny. It makes no difference to them that impeaching judges for obeying the law will not sit well with Americans. There will be public opinion polls showing massive opposition to the policy and Repubs will dismiss them as inaccurate because they know they're right. This is going to be really, really entertaining.
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:38 AM
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111. DeLay?
This is really bad for the country when one of the most powerful political leader acts and talks like this in a threatening manner. God please save us from these creeps.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:23 AM
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116. What a criminal disgrace this full blown fundamentalist RW racist
nazi pig is to be frothing forth with pronouncements about his own brand of "justice" further politicizing a dead woman's personal life.

Delay sounds like a Nazi Gauleiter that wants to hang the non-hanging judges in the BFEE's Culture of Death.

I hope he gets sentenced to a lengthy term after his trial-there would be some justice in that, in reality he will most likely just continue to jerk-off to his end times vision that is shared by the theocracy wing of BFEE. :rant:
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:52 AM
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117. Uh, that would be her for being bulemic in the first place...
Unless you're a psychiatrist, who'd be willing to blame her parents, or maybe a codependent relationship which ennabled her to do that... in which case... her parents are already punished for not getting what they want, and she's punished by being dead... get off it already...
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:07 AM
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119. Then everyone in the media should be punished
that helps perpetuate the ideal woman being stick thin. You can blame everyone who ever insulted her for being fat in high school too. Punish them Delay. All Michael ever did was love her.
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:29 AM
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122. I like the punishing the media part.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:08 AM
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120. "Culture of Life" = culture of intimidation, fear and hypocrisy
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magnussun Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:34 AM
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124. Only God knows
What about those responsible for her suffering? I've gone back and forth on this and listened to both sides. I'm still confused on the issue spiritually, but feel relieved that she is finally free.

M
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:59 AM
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125. "the men responsible for this" will be called to account. WTF?
DeLay is calling God to account?
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:51 PM
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128. Bugman to God: I'm callin' you out, sucka!
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 07:52 PM by Hand
God to Bugman: BRING IT, PUNK!
(Large lightning bolt accompanied by a loud "KERPLOWIE!")

Scorched Bugman: Unfair! Do over! Do over!

God:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:05 PM
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130. Oh grasshopper, you speak out your ass n/t
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