Christian Council Press Release: No more Schiavos (oppose liberal judges)

[Robbien]

<snip>

"The Schiavo case demonstrates the mortal danger of giving judges the unbridled power of life and death," Scarborough charged.

In just one week, the Council's first conference -- Confronting The Judicial War On Faith -- will convene at the Washington Marriott in Washington, D.C. Confronting The Judicial War On Faith will address the rising tide of judicial despotism, of which the Schiavo case is the latest and most poignant example.

Keynote speakers will include House Majority Leader Tom DeLay , who was instrumental in moving the Schiavo legislation through Congress, and David C. Gibbs, Esq. of the Christian Law Association, who represented Terri's parents in their valiant efforts to save her life.

Other speakers at the Confronting The Judicial War On Faith conference (April 7-8) include: Sen. Sam Brownback, former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, Alan Keyes, former Vatican Ambassador Ray Flynn, Rep. Steve Chabot, Rep. Todd Akin, Phyllis Schlafly and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council.

The conference also will consider Ten Commandments displays and the right of Americans to publicly acknowledge God, judicial nominations, the judicial assault on marriage and remedies to judicial tyranny.

Scarborough stressed: "This will be an action-oriented conference. Our purpose is to draw up a plan of action to oppose the liberal judges who have abrogated our most precious human rights -- including Terri Schiavo's right to life. Out of it will come a coalition of family groups, ministries and churches dedicated to restoring constitutional rights and liberty."

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=45109

[sniffa]

1. so, they're going to respect privacy now?

oh, my bad.

[neverforget]

2. How about no more meddling by Congress and the Pres into people's

private lives and bedrooms? I am so sick of these people!

[moobu2]

3. They want mob rule, not the rule of law.

[Clark Bayh 2008]

6. The judges they're railing against

are the same ones that got Bush through Florida & into the WH.
The irony is sickening.

Plus Greer & others were appointees of Bush Sr. Beyond ridiculous.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

4. WTF?

so, republican Southern Baptist Judge Greer is now a liberal judge to these freaks? The mind boggles.:crazy:

[Midnight Rambler]

5. I saw the name "Roy Moore"

Says it all, methinks

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. My press release: No more Christian Councils.

[Tux]

56. My press release

No more Evangelicals. I don't recognize them as humans anymore....stay off my lawn, losers.

[saigon68]

8. These are Right Wing Fundy Nut-Cases and WHACK JOBS

Hateful cretins from Hell

Look at the list of HATE MONGERS

Sen. Sam Brownback, former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, Alan Keyes, former Vatican Ambassador Ray Flynn, Rep. Steve Chabot, Rep. Todd Akin, Phyllis Schlafly and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council.

Only Franco, Pinochet and Dr. Mengele are missing

LOL

[xxqqqzme]

50. can U comprehend the amount

of pure, unadulterated hate that will B generated by that bunch of humanity haters? Something should B done to harness that. It could be used speed up composting sites or generate electricity.

[BadGimp]

9. oh to be a fly on the wall of that shin dig

ooff

[ewagner]

17. Don't worry

it will be very well publicized....they want a platform from which their agenda can be delivered to the masses....Terri Schiavo is part of that platform and this is just the manifestation of what we feared their agenda would be all along....

Hopefully the publicity will strip away the facade of "Moderation" of the Republican Party...exposing the radicals who really lie within.....

[tjdee]

10. THEY WEREN'T LIBERAL JUDGES.

What a stupid bait and switch this is, and how expected that Joe America will fall for this:

"This will be an action-oriented conference. Our purpose is to draw up a plan of action to oppose the liberal judges who have abrogated our most precious human rights -- including Terri Schiavo's right to life. "

Honestly? Judge Greer is a liberal?

[lostnfound]

18. Does anyone know who appointed EACH of the judges who looked at this case?

Or if some were elected, did they run as partisans?

[tjdee]

22. I asked this yesterday, here's a link to the thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1695717

See post 4 in particular, of the 11th circuit court...that's just one court though, I'd also be interested in someone compiling a list of every single judge.

And then circulating it, actually, because this is total bullshit they're trying to pull with this liberal judges thing.

[OrwellwasRight]

51. Try this link:

It does not include senior (semi-retired) judges, but will give you a good snapshot of all full time federal judges.

http://www.allianceforjustice.org/judicial/judicial_selection_resources/selection_database/byPresident.asp

[Skidmore]

30. They want to replace legitimate judges WITH

activist judges. Point needs to be made over and over again.

[Demit]

11. WTF is the "Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration"?

WTF is "Confronting The Judicial War On Faith"?
WTF is "the rising tide of judicial despotism"?
WTF is "the right of Americans to publicly acknowledge God"?

My head truly hurts. They're like the fucking Borg. They just keep coming. They don't take a break. They just adapt and keep on coming.

[Tux]

57. Translations

WTF is "Confronting The Judicial War On Faith"?
Creating Theocratic Laws Through Courts

WTF is "the rising tide of judicial despotism"?
Thier method of doing above.

WTF is "the right of Americans to publicly acknowledge God"?
Welcome to Christian theocratic America, you godless liberal heathern. NOW BURN!

My head truly hurts. So does mine. They're like the fucking Borg. Borg are prettier. They just keep coming. Sounds like mini-malls. They don't take a break. They're on a mission from god just like the Blues Brothers. They just adapt and keep on coming. So the fundies hate evolution yet they use it?

Anyone else want to make a device that can send us to a parallel universe were the fundies never existed?

[icymist]

12. Judicial despotism?

The tyrants wish to define tyranny! Our elected officials must be insane to entertain such traitorous agendas. This is nothing more than planning to attack the Constitution of The United States.

[beyurslf]

13. Senator Brownback... big surprise...always there to "represent KS"

and make us look stooopid.

[teakee]

24. Don't you just love "Senator Sam"?

:puke: :puke: I wish the people of Kansas would wake up and get rid of him and his buddy, Jim Ryun.

It is starting to suck living in Kansas anymore.

[beyurslf]

29. We have to watch them. One is probably going to run against Sebelius

next year.

[StuckinKS]

41. Brownback sucks

but unless we can redefine him as an ultra rightwing conservative who wishes to take Kansas and the US back to the Fifties (not the "Happy Days" Fifties, but the blacks to the back of the bus, women who know their place and the only good homosexual is a dead homosexual Fifties), it will be near impossible to unseat him. I have been told that he has no skeletons in his closet and he is merely the evil man he seems on the surface. Unfortunately, many Kansans *like* that man they see.

On the other hand, Rep. Todd Tiahrt has many skeletons yet unrevealed and can be defeated. Maybe not by a Democrat but by a moderate Republican in the primary. Oh well, we'll take what we can get.

[sundancekid]

14. parallel universe. stop the presses. rule of law now = judicial despotism

I hope I can still find it in my heart today to pray the symbolic words:
"Father, forgive them for they know not what they do."

[Occulus]

28. Don't even bother trying to forgive them.

They know exactly what they do, and they do it with glee and zeal.

They do not deserve your forgiveness.

[jojo54]

15. Here we go, the new civil war begins

I think there will be a strong push by the fundies to get legislation passed to ban any kind of interference by family or doctors when it comes to someone on life support. Let's see DeLay jump on that one!!!

But seriously, the religious right in this country needs to be very careful. What if things get so out of hand that other strong religious based countries become involved??? Anyone think that could happen?

[Robbien]

16. The point is, These Guys are Organizing and Organizing Now

They were able to push the Schiavo situation to the front of media attention and keep it there. Now they are organizing to attack judges. When they get through with the media blitz it will be as if all judges except the Bush new appointees are very very BAD and LIBERAL! And Democrats are evil if they oppose Bush's new appointees.

[jojo54]

20. Aren't the new appointees announced next week?

How convenient!

[atreides1]

19. This is Good

All of the traitors gathered in one place, making their plans to create a theocracy. All that needs to be done now is to get the names
of the leaders, and put the information away for use later.

Let's face it folks, planning for a theocracy is exactly what they are doing, all you have to do is to look at the list above.

[Robbien]

23. What good is that if there is not an organized counter to their attack?

They efficiently pushed the Schiavo mess out in front. There was no counter view put forth. The only saving grace was they pushed too hard and the wackos got too much attention.

They are learning and this conference is probably also going to plan ways to stop the wackos from hurting the attack on judges.

On Schiavo, the Dems hid. That was their plan of attack. Wonder what brilliant plan they have for the next Christian Coalition attack.

[atreides1]

32. It's good to know who the enemy is

Until now all we've had is speculation, but now the list of attendees is confirmation of the leadership of the fundies.

The counter to their attack cannot be conversation, they won't listen, that leaves just one way to counter them.

Besides it's always good to know who your enemies are, and to know who makes up their leadership. These people are so vain, that they view themselves as the only ones who can lead the fundies and other wackos. They do not share power with their minions, and that their mistake.

Cut the head off of the snake, and the body will die!!!!!

[Robbien]

40. These guys have not been secretive

They have openly used the Christian Coalition and Dobson's group to get out the vote and run ads. A simple google discloses the support.

[atreides1]

42. Open but not Committed

Not secretive, but not ready to jump the shark until now, not ready to commit themselves fully.

Now they have shown their true colors, and can't go back, and that's what was needed. Moore, Delay, Keyes, Scarborough, Schafly, this list is equivilent to Himmler, Goering, Mengele, and others of that ilk.

And we all know what their "Final Solution" is, the complete control
through a theocracy, of the United States, one nation under one God, with liberty and justice for the chosen.

At least we have accepted the fact that they want to kill us just because of what we believe and who we are.

[Resin]

47. If the church wants to get involved in politics

then make them pay taxes!

[Petrushka]

35. We mustn't let the right hand know what the left hand is doing . . .

. . . or should that be: We mustn't let the left hand know what the right hand is doing?

Either way, it's biblical . . . sorta.

O8) :evilgrin: O8)

[camitche]

21. I think the greates irony here is that

the repugs have been whining about activist judges that don't interpret the law, but push their political agenda - which is bs, of course.

now, the judges were supposed to ignore how the law is actually written and allow schiavo to live because... it's part of moral/political agenda...

hmm...

[Triana]

25. There they go. They can't even let her body get cold before..

...they start feeding off of it.

PARASITES!

[snippy]

26. Tyrants have always attempted to control or curtail the power of judges.

Current republicans are no different in this respect from any tyrants of the past.

[hector459]

27. Major disconnect here: Wasn't the RW trying use "judges" to decide

"life and death issues" over Terri's husband and her doctors?

Help me out here.

[Endangered Specie]

31. I thought some of these judges were staunch christians

with moderate to conservative records :shrug:

Amazing how fast they turn on their own.

[underpants]

33. "George (Greer) is the religious right,"

I can't find a link now but Whittemore is a evaqngelical Baptist and a Repulican.

And Greer, vilified by many religious protesters, is a church regular. He also is a conservative Republican in a state whose conservative Republican governor tried to overturn one of Greer's orders.

"George is the religious right," said lawyer David Kurland, a longtime friend.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/06/Tampabay/Quiet_judge_...
l

Sorry, Greer is not only a card- carrying conservative Republican, but he also is a devout Baptist.

http://www.tampatrib.com/MGBONXF3U6E.html

[saracat]

34. This is just a ploy to gain support

for the sock puppet judges Bush wants. I'll bet even Scalia and O'conner are scared now. Even Renquist isn't stepping dowm.They just got hoisted on their own petard. Imagine, they gave Bush the throne and now he wants to eliminate them! Or at least neuter the courts!

[Trillo]

36. Perhaps the Christians who claim the fundies don't speak for them,

the ones that alert when I post broadbrush statements disparaging of certain Christian churches, the individuals that claim they're tolerant and try to live their lives as Christ lived his; perhaps THEY need to form their own PR campaign against these religious extremists, to speak as loudly as these Christian non-moderates.

[PaDem]

53. well, it'd be awful hard to do without.........

the broad support of a political party. One of the reasons the religious right is vocal and influential is because they've been working with the Republican establishment.

[Zenlitened]

37. "War On Faith"? They don't even try to be clever with their doublespeak

... anymore, do they?

These people are religious fanatics, and they are not much different from the Taliban.

I sure hope the FBI has a plant or two in the audience, because these lunatics are bound to cross the line at some point with their threats against federal judges.

Sadly, the next Timothy McVeigh might be in the audience as well. :(

[GarySeven]

38. Conservatives control the legislative and executive branches ...

only the independent Judiciary, most of whom are unelected, stand in the way of their excercising control of the government. This is why conservatives must destroy it, or occupy it.

Since the 1960s, when judges overthrew the discriminatory laws upholding the racist regime conservatives so enjoyed, conservatives have opposed the concept of judicial review. Conservatives would have preferred to keep the races apart, they passed laws to preserve that preference, but, over their objections, those laws were overruled.

Conservatives prefer women to be subservient to men in economic opportunity and political power. The women's movement and the subsequent upholding, through judicial fiat, of anti-discrimination laws thwarted the will of conservative opponents of equal rights. Much worse, to their mind, is the finding through judicial review that women enjoy a right to privacy and thus control over their own bodies, including their reproductive organs. Conservatives hate and dispise the concept of equality; they hate and despise women and they hate and despise loss of control over women. Over their objections, progressive laws were passed. Judges upheld these laws, and earned the hatred of Conservatives.

Conservatives hate liberty and freedom. Judges have earned their hatred because they refuse to give them what they want: direct control of the government and freedom to impose a theocratic dictatorship. But now, for the first time in history, a minority party (conservatives) have seized control of a major political party and through that party now control the nation's legislative and executive branches.

This gives them power to exercise control over the population that is far beyond what was envisioned by the Founders. The minority of theocrats now may exercise their tyranny of rule - and once they have wiped away the last remaining check on their power, the judiciary, then there will be concentration camps for anyone who is not white, Christian, male or Republican.

Liberals and Democrats have, through either incomprehension of the scope of this conspiracy, or through political naivte, have allowed the usurpation of power thus far. Whether they will stand up to prevent the collapse of this republic is the question we must all ask.

[Tux]

60. They won't

Both sides get lobbyist's money so they won't do a thing. It may come down to a civil war, a serious backlash to all Christians, suspicion of surviving Christians, and a restructuring of our gov to make sure it never happens again.

Read johntitor.com

[Canuckistanian]

39. "unbridled power of life and death" ?

What do they think judges do when they're giving death sentences?

[joldnir]

43. I said this was going to happen with my very first post here.

Like I said before, to the repukes it was not a matter of putting the feeding tube back in or if TS lived. The were setting it up to weaken judges and force through they illegal measures upon us.

[Robbien]

44. Welcome to DU, joldnir

A very good insight for your first post.

Welcome.

:hi:

[seasat]

45. They tried targeting Judge Greer.

He was overwhelmingly reelected here in Florida. This tactic will backfire. It'll split the Repug party in two when you start having the Falwellians ticking off the Ryandians and both rebelling against the Neo-Cons. We'll welcome the moderates into our party and the others can go on to form minority status parties. Probably won't happen quite that way but one can dream.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

46. Oh shoot, I wanted to DU their registration form

http://www.stopactivistjudges.org/registration1.htm

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[yellowcanine]

48. Sounds like that will be one fun conference - Alan Keyes, Roy Moore,

Tony Perkins, Phyllis Schlafly, Tom Delay - all the wing nuts.

Will they wheel Jerry Fatwah in lying in his hospital bed?

[blackspade]

49. This crap amazes me still...

What these folks are advocating is a fundimentalist tyranny.

They are actively undermining the judicial branch of government because it poses the greatest threat to their agenda.
Without the judicial branch the separation of powers is gone allowing one party to rule by decree without any legal redress.
This assault on the constitution of out country has to stop!

[progressoid]

52. What liberal judges?

Activist judges tend to be conservatives. The rest just follow the law.

[deacon2]

54. My e-mail to the Council's event organizers

topic line: Thou shall not bear false witness

The judges in the Schiavo case were overwhelmingly Christian and Republican. They chose to follow the Constitution and uphold the law. You are bearing false witness in your advertising for this event. That is a SIN.

I urge you to repent publicly and to begin advancing your beliefs and your cause in truth and integrity as God commands.

God bless you,
Daniel Koenig

I feel that no harm is done in using the proper lingo as learned from my parents, real Christians, who found lying to be one of the more grievous sins in that it almost always led to the innocent being hurt.

Perhaps you'd all like to write to them and remind them of their Christian duty to tell the truth?

[Iris]

55. Sounds like a plan, except

that 13 of the 22 judges involved are CONSERVATIVE!@!!!!!!

[joldnir]

58. Sadly, I feel that they are going to try and use the constitution to

destroy it.

Article 3, Section 1:
The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

My fear is that they will try to use "shall hold their Offices during good behaviour" to remove those judges that rule against them. It is clear now, how they are laying the ground work that Judge Greer did not act in "good behaviour" and as such he should be removed. (IE Tom stated those that are responsible for TS death will pay).

[LoganW]

59. WTF?

"GOOD BEHAVIOR" does not translate to "doing what the right wants".

[Tux]

61. The Right are in power

And being good is being a Christian. If he isn't Evangelical, he's out and we're all dead.

Thanks, Jesus.

[leQ]

62. the taliban have finally arrived on our shores (eom)

.

[xchrom]

63. ''Confronting The Judicial War On Faith''

it seems to me that this is formal declaration of war.
cultural war -- and perhaps it's about time.

let's take the gloves off and see where this goes.

[BiggJawn]

64. "...and the right of Americans to publicly acknowledge God"

Dumb-asses have been reading WAY too much "Mallard Fillmore".

Did I miss something? Did churches lose the right to buy billboards? Newspaper ads? I even see a local church that invites everyone to to their Sunday morning breakfast buffet in their TV spots...

These Pharisees can stand on the street corner and beat their chests in prayer all they want. Where that right ENDS is when they try to make LAWS requiring ME to beat on MY chest.

But, you see, to the Dominionist, any restriction on their religion is persecution. No mandatory prayer in school? Why, they're being prohibited from praying there. There's a man on the city council who doesn't bow his head for the prayer? HOW is THAT possible! there ought to be a LAW! What? There can't be a law? Why, that's PERSECUTION!

Maybe we should let the Law into the Church, since they think it's OK to let the Church into the Law...Let's start with a tax audit...